1972 project speculation thread

[DookieLukie]

I'd rather a good obscure album than a bad popular one. SDAR is one of their best and no one knows about it. Doesn't make it less fun.

[Montclare]

3 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

As much as I love this band, they are past their prime commercially and creatively and so I don’t think there’s a great chance they might get a Grammy nomination. Not that it’s that much of a tragedy. I’m not sure how much awards even matter anymore.

But look who gets nominated for best rock album- 2021 includes Foo Fighters (who won), Paul McCartney, AC/DC, and Chris Cornell. Other recent nominees include Weezer, Alice in Chains, Metallica, FOB, Blink 182, and Muse. All of whom are contemporaries of Green Day or even older.

It still hurts that they weren't even nominated for RevRad since I love that album so much. I want it all. The awards, the sales, the airplay, and a good album.

[nopride84]

14 hours ago, Alan86 said:

I think in 2005 they had about 7 nominations but only won 1 award. Lost in 3 or 4 categories to U2 if I remember correctly. 7 nominations in 1 year is really good but I agree didn’t win nearly enough to say they dominated.

 

Yea they had 6 nominations in 2005 then 2006 they had one for Blvd which they won so 7 noms for the album. The next was the saints with u2 which lost. That's true that it was the vmas that they dominated walking away with 7 wins. 

Side note,who cares about awards and shit? It's the new fan base post 2004 that cares for some reason. Like everyone's in the band. For years people hated on green day for selling out but when they actually do everyone wants them to do it over And over again. Tre made a bong out of his Grammy for dookie that's how much it meant back then and that's what it means now.its means nothing all it does is makes billies head bigger

[Beerjeezus]

21 minutes ago, Montclare said:

But look who gets nominated for best rock album- 2021 includes Foo Fighters (who won), Paul McCartney, AC/DC, and Chris Cornell. Other recent nominees include Weezer, Alice in Chains, Metallica, FOB, Blink 182, and Muse. All of whom are contemporaries of Green Day or even older.

It still hurts that they weren't even nominated for RevRad since I love that album so much. I want it all. The awards, the sales, the airplay, and a good album.

I think that’s the problem actually, most of these either have more of an estabilished legendary status than GD do or in case of FOB, are currently popular/play music that’s closer to current mainstream.

Agreed - RevRad deserved more recognition than it got, but at least it did relatively well, the singles got airplay and I never saw a bad review except maybe Fantano.

[The Grohl]

It's interesting because I was having a recent conversation with some co-workers about music and I brought up Green Day. They were surprised that they're still around. One of them said they haven't heard a green day song in a minute. The other thought the reason they played the metro was because they can't fill large shows, which I don't agree with. Their points were Green Day doesn't feel super relevant. I don't know if I can agree with it, but I do agree that they're not in the mainstream consciousnesses anymore. If they drop another fantastic album maybe they might get there again, but really as long as the boys are happy, I'm a happy fan.

It just surprised me when I run into people who are shocked that Green Day is still making music because to me they feel like the biggest band in the world! And then when you go outside the fandom, you realize well not everyone feels that way. And it's so strange because when I list off bands I love and include green day I feel that's when I get most judgement. I could say oh wow I love Nsync and that doesn't bat an eye , but bring up Green Day and some folks feel like oh...okay you like that kind of music, Just interesting things I've been noticing lately, especially at work where just about everyone is 5-10 years younger than me.

But I have met some fellow fans at work so it's been nice seeing both sides of the coin.

[Beerjeezus]

15 minutes ago, The Grohl said:

It's interesting because I was having a recent conversation with some co-workers about music and I brought up Green Day. They were surprised that they're still around. One of them said they haven't heard a green day song in a minute. The other thought the reason they played the metro was because they can't fill large shows, which I don't agree with. Their points were Green Day doesn't feel super relevant. I don't know if I can agree with it, but I do agree that they're not in the mainstream consciousnesses anymore. If they drop another fantastic album maybe they might get there again, but really as long as the boys are happy, I'm a happy fan.

I think the reason why it’s so is a combination of a few factors:

-GD dropped off the radar pretty abruptly after iHeart and went MIA for a few years, which probably looked an awful lot like the band was over to people who aren’t following them (to the point that people didn’t neccessarily have to notice the comeback)

-in general, rock music currently isn’t very relevant

-GD mostly keep to themselves and you don’t really hear about them outside of promoting an album, while in the same time frame for example Foo Fighters produced multiple documentaries/put effort into everyone knowing that Dave Grohl is a nice guy

-even if people noticed them in the last few years, the band positions itself as a legacy act now so understandable that doesn’t make them look fresh

[Insomniac90]

I dont know maybe they are fine where they are now. As long as they still headlining Festivals and play big shows. They are known for putting on great shows and everyone seeems to enjoy these shows, even when people say they dont listen/like them, they enjoy the shows.

and yeah, RevRad didn‘t perform that bad on charts, but should have get more attention. It‘s still one of the best records in my opinion.

[Jhonib]

Plus they still appear on the charts of most streamed rock bands on streaming platforms 😉

[jengd]

I think it’s a mix of the lack of interest in rock music on radio, music in general on tv and just the fact that they aren’t new, young things anymore.  

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Just having your song in a movie can help you gain popularity. But it's all rap or pop now. 

When the last time you heard a Green Day song in a movie? I'm talking a live action movie not animation.

By the way 99 revolutions and Holy Toledo were in the end credit so that's not very relevant.

[GDFan2019]

I thought I heard Know Your Enemy one day going into a commercial break of an MLB on Fox game

[That Dude]

4 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

I'd rather a good obscure album than a bad popular one. SDAR is one of their best and no one knows about it. Doesn't make it less fun.

I know those guys SAID they were Green Day, but it' debatable.  

 

[Jankowski576]

Hip hop does seem to be drying up in quality, but honestly rock can have itself to blame for the lack of popularity too. Seems like no one is really making a statement or channeling a ton of energy - at least in the mainstream rock genre

[That Dude]

Trilogy lyrics over FOAM instrumentals.  Including the hand claps. 

Perfection.

 

[PleasedToMeetMe]

10 hours ago, The Grohl said:

It's interesting because I was having a recent conversation with some co-workers about music and I brought up Green Day. They were surprised that they're still around. One of them said they haven't heard a green day song in a minute. The other thought the reason they played the metro was because they can't fill large shows, which I don't agree with. Their points were Green Day doesn't feel super relevant. I don't know if I can agree with it, but I do agree that they're not in the mainstream consciousnesses anymore. If they drop another fantastic album maybe they might get there again, but really as long as the boys are happy, I'm a happy fan.

It just surprised me when I run into people who are shocked that Green Day is still making music because to me they feel like the biggest band in the world! And then when you go outside the fandom, you realize well not everyone feels that way. And it's so strange because when I list off bands I love and include green day I feel that's when I get most judgement. I could say oh wow I love Nsync and that doesn't bat an eye , but bring up Green Day and some folks feel like oh...okay you like that kind of music, Just interesting things I've been noticing lately, especially at work where just about everyone is 5-10 years younger than me.

But I have met some fellow fans at work so it's been nice seeing both sides of the coin.

Yeah, they played The Metro cuz they can’t fill a bigger venue. That’s why they headlined Lollapalooza that same weekend 😂👍

[billy1986]

Green Day are in the Hall of Fame…the youngest band to get in. They can still fill stadiums/area’s/and headline…every album pretty much had a #1 single on some form of rock radio..even oh yea, oh love as well as bang bang and still breathing…Grammys and radio popularity are peaks and valleys mid to late 90’s rock/alternative rock was everywhere…mid 2000’’s to maybe 2012 rock was pretty popular. Green Day are not over the hill they still play amazing…Rock in general is not popular in mainstream..Green Day are still a name everyone knows…eventually hip hop/pop/ will become blah and rock will be big again. Green Day will win more Grammys…but..how many Grammys did Queen/Prince/The Beatles win?!? And they are still highly regarded. Green Day doesn’t “try” to win when nominated lack some over-rated rock groups..plus pacific daydream/California/Nine they are not close to quality when it comes to Green Day. Green Day are loved by all countries and bands…they are not over…rock will eventually get big again..they were one of the biggest bands from 94-97….still big in the rock world…were one of the biggest bands from 2004-2009…still big in the rock world so again peaks and valleys I have faith their next release will be a huge success critically and commercially and rock will be in the mainstream again..if you don’t think they still don’t want to be the biggest/best band your wrong…they were the biggest/best several times….also milli and vanilli won Grammys as well as the BaHa Men…so Grammys Don’t always mean good 

[Red]

13 hours ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Just having your song in a movie can help you gain popularity. But it's all rap or pop now. 

When the last time you heard a Green Day song in a movie? I'm talking a live action movie not animation.

By the way 99 revolutions and Holy Toledo were in the end credit so that's not very relevant.

I remember hearing 21 Guns being a pretty major song in Transformers 2, but that was more than 10 years ago and Ordinary World is more of an indie film, so I don't think that really counts. 

14 hours ago, jengd said:

I think it’s a mix of the lack of interest in rock music on radio, music in general on tv and just the fact that they aren’t new, young things anymore.  

100% agreed.

I hear a GD song on rock radio channels from time to time, but I can't remember the last time I heard one on a standard mainstream channel. (Was either Bang Bang or X-Mas Time of the Year.) Mainstream rock outside of dedicated rock stations seems to be pretty much dead now. It's getting so bad that even dedicated rock stations in recent video games such as Forza Horizon 5 has about 3 or 4 songs that I'd actually consider to be rock and two of them are Foo Fighters. The rest is very debatable.

It's honestly sad to see after living through what I'd consider to be the peak of rock.

[jengd]

I like the FF but when they and Coldplay are considered rock…well where do we go from here?! I’m hoping the likes of MGK and Yungblud, whatever you think of them, can bring some light back.  

[Little Boy Named Booze]

3 hours ago, jengd said:

I like the FF but when they and Coldplay are considered rock…well where do we go from here?! I’m hoping the likes of MGK and Yungblud, whatever you think of them, can bring some light back.  

FF isn't rock? Well pinch me. Coldplay definitively isn't.

[jengd]

17 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

FF isn't rock? Well pinch me. Coldplay definitively isn't.

Well, slightly on the light side.

[The Grohl]

It pains me that mainstream considers Imagine Dragons peak rock these days.

[pacejunkie punk]

Actually Maneskin are pretty inspiring they’re pretty popular as a rock resurgence act. It always surprises me that they seemed to leap over the Struts in popularity when I think they’re a really deserving band too. I always say in any other era the Struts would be filling arenas. 

[Gwen Stacy]

5 hours ago, Red said:

It's honestly sad to see after living through what I'd consider to be the peak of rock.

Good jazz is still being made. Rock will probably just become more niche over time, but I don’t see it dying out entirely as a genre

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

12 hours ago, billy1986 said:

Green Day are in the Hall of Fame…the youngest band to get in. They can still fill stadiums/area’s/and headline…every album pretty much had a #1 single on some form of rock radio..even oh yea, oh love as well as bang bang and still breathing…Grammys and radio popularity are peaks and valleys mid to late 90’s rock/alternative rock was everywhere…mid 2000’’s to maybe 2012 rock was pretty popular. Green Day are not over the hill they still play amazing…Rock in general is not popular in mainstream..Green Day are still a name everyone knows…eventually hip hop/pop/ will become blah and rock will be big again. Green Day will win more Grammys…but..how many Grammys did Queen/Prince/The Beatles win?!? And they are still highly regarded. Green Day doesn’t “try” to win when nominated lack some over-rated rock groups..plus pacific daydream/California/Nine they are not close to quality when it comes to Green Day. Green Day are loved by all countries and bands…they are not over…rock will eventually get big again..they were one of the biggest bands from 94-97….still big in the rock world…were one of the biggest bands from 2004-2009…still big in the rock world so again peaks and valleys I have faith their next release will be a huge success critically and commercially and rock will be in the mainstream again..if you don’t think they still don’t want to be the biggest/best band your wrong…they were the biggest/best several times….also milli and vanilli won Grammys as well as the BaHa Men…so Grammys Don’t always mean good 

Least passionate green day fan 

[michael1989]

6 hours ago, jengd said:

I like the FF but when they and Coldplay are considered rock…well where do we go from here?! I’m hoping the likes of MGK and Yungblud, whatever you think of them, can bring some light back.  

FF isn't rock but MGK and Yungblud are?