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If only you knew how many parties I had with 15-20 friends since I'm vax 😂
Oh and nobody tested positive too. Strange.

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13 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Btw does this have anything to do with covid rules at Green Day shows? All I'm seeing is people pointlessly coming to the thread trying to provoke a reaction.

lol you started this thread thinking people would stick to covid rules on GD show only 😂 That's on you.

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11 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

lol you started this thread thinking people would stick to covid rules on GD show only 😂 That's on you.

I mean "Covid/vaccine rules at shows" is the title of the thead and we have a General Chat thread for general covid discussion so not really. Do you think having covid discussion completely take up the Hella Mega Tour thread plus other show threads would be better? If people (eg you :P) could not just pointlessly post to start an argument and instead only post if there's something to discuss about show rules it would be fine.

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I do find it odd that he entire crew and bands etc of the tour need to be vaccinated but the crowds can be vaccinated/unvaccinated, masks not mandatory etc. All it takes is for a crew member to test positive and the whole show grounds to a halt. Is testing required for any of these gigs? 

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Ok, so I’ve been reading the last few pages and let me just be clear, factually speaking I am 100% with @Christian's Inferno! @Hermione @EmmaCharlatan&Saints etc. and I do also very much understand that this topic brings up strong feelings in people, especially those who may have lost loved ones due to Covid. However, it does make me sad to see (and this is not so much GDC I’m talking about, but general society) that discussions surrounding this topic tend to escalate so quickly. It seems everywhere things are becoming more and more polarised in our public discourse, to the point where there are already literally examples of married couples who have polar opposite political stances (not just on covid, but in general) and even read/follow entirely different news sources. Must make for some very interesting discussions at the breakfast table… Anyway, I too have felt being trapped in the anger of some other (more or less) random stranger on the internet, or worse, an actual family member simply not listening to reason or anything I had to say, but rather firmly remaining in their ways. On the other hand, I have also caught myself not wanting to listen to what the other side had to say or to somewhat understand where they might be coming from. Sure, often it’s a case of people just being downright ignorant, but other times it’s also other underlying fears or life-changing experiences that have come to shape their beliefs. What I’m trying to say here is, do NOT give up on your beliefs or stance, but maybe understand that the last year and a half has been truly awful for everyone on so many levels, so try to be civil. People are, very understandably, incredibly tired of this shit and I really don’t blame them…

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2 hours ago, EmmaCharlatan&Saints said:

I do find it odd that he entire crew and bands etc of the tour need to be vaccinated but the crowds can be vaccinated/unvaccinated, masks not mandatory etc. All it takes is for a crew member to test positive and the whole show grounds to a halt. Is testing required for any of these gigs? 

Unfortunately it all comes down to money. Green Day have enough for twenty lifetimes but it's not like they are the only ones on tour with no rules in place. I think we'll start seeing shows postponed in the Fall if the numbers keep rising steadily across the US. 

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4 hours ago, W Axl Rose said:

Unfortunately it all comes down to money. Green Day have enough for twenty lifetimes but it's not like they are the only ones on tour with no rules in place. I think we'll start seeing shows postponed in the Fall if the numbers keep rising steadily across the US. 

I don't think the numbers are going to rise long-term because this recent surge has caused a significant increase in people getting vaxxed. With the current vaccination rate and the number of unvaccinated people who will end up positive, I think the Delta wave won't be super long. But you know what would totally blow that all out of the water? A new, even more communicable variant that doesn't respond to the vaccine. Then there would be another surge of that one. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. 

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I heard on Facebook that one of the people who got on stage with the band this tour refuses to be vaccinated. Kind of disrespectful I think. Could put the tour in jeopardy for everyone else

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23 minutes ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

I heard on Facebook that one of the people who got on stage with the band this tour refuses to be vaccinated. Kind of disrespectful I think. Could put the tour in jeopardy for everyone else

Not his fault but the stadium/city rules fault. If they didn't want to take the risks they should have applied a vaxx rule in the stadium.

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6 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Not his fault but the stadium/city rules fault. If they didn't want to take the risks they should have applied a vaxx rule in the stadium.

True although hasn't Billie been asking people if they're vaccinated? 

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1 hour ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

True although hasn't Billie been asking people if they're vaccinated? 

It’s honor system though he’s asking everyone but someone who really wants to be on stage could easily lie. Pretty selfish but they could. Do you know which show it was?

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2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

It’s honor system though he’s asking everyone but someone who really wants to be on stage could easily lie. Pretty selfish but they could. Do you know which show it was?

I do but don't really like to say because if I name the show it can only be one of two people and whilst I completely disapprove I don't want to start an online hate campaign 

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Hate to be the one to ask, but have there been any reports of folks who attended those first few Hella Mega dates and have confirmed COVID cases? I'm curious because on the Reddit page for the Rolling Loud music festival that was held near the same date, lots of folks have been posting about feeling sick and testing positive (vaxxed and unvaxxed). 

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1 minute ago, GRNSTR10 said:

Hate to be the one to ask, but have there been any reports of folks who attended those first few Hella Mega dates and have confirmed COVID cases? I'm curious because on the Reddit page for the Rolling Loud music festival that was held near the same date, lots of folks have been posting about feeling suck and testing positive (vaxxed and unvaxxed). 

That's not good. People have been wondering if Lollapalooza might have caused some cases too but not heard whether it has

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4 hours ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

That's not good. People have been wondering if Lollapalooza might have caused some cases too but not heard whether it has

It probably will do. These events, like life in general, are proabably never going to be 100% free of covid. If that's the end goal we won't see gigs for years, it's about risk management at this point, if the vast majority of people are vaccinated and tested regularly there's not much more we can do. 

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6 hours ago, Slave To The Network said:

Wow, that sucks. People suck. If you truly respect and love Green Day, why would you lie about not being vaccinated to get on stage and potentially put them at risk? That's such selfish thing to do. It's so amazingly nice of them to be bringing fans on stage at all on this tour and to take advantage of that kindness and trust is just awful. They don't owe us that - it's a privilege and if things go south because of a handful of assholes they can take it away and then nobody gets to have fun.

Many other people would have done the same thing just to met and/or hug Billie Joe. It's selfish but in the moment you just want to be on stage with your idol.

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6 hours ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

That's not good. People have been wondering if Lollapalooza might have caused some cases too but not heard whether it has

Lolla just happened. 

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3 hours ago, Squashie said:

Lolla just happened. 

Yeah will be a few weeks until anyone knows the impact I expect 

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17 hours ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

I don't think the numbers are going to rise long-term because this recent surge has caused a significant increase in people getting vaxxed. With the current vaccination rate and the number of unvaccinated people who will end up positive, I think the Delta wave won't be super long. But you know what would totally blow that all out of the water? A new, even more communicable variant that doesn't respond to the vaccine. Then there would be another surge of that one. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. 

Hasnt the vaccine rollout stalled in the US at like only 50% of the pop vaxxed? 

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37 minutes ago, EmmaCharlatan&Saints said:

Hasnt the vaccine rollout stalled in the US at like only 50% of the pop vaxxed? 

It slowed down but with delta it’s increased again. Now the vax rates are as high as they were a month ago. 70% of adults are vaxxed 

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9 hours ago, Joe. said:

It probably will do. These events, like life in general, are proabably never going to be 100% free of covid. If that's the end goal we won't see gigs for years, it's about risk management at this point, if the vast majority of people are vaccinated and tested regularly there's not much more we can do. 

I understand where you're coming from but there are millions of people who have autoimmune diseases who don't respond as well to the vaccine (not all of them old people by any means).They've already been prisoners in their own homes for 18 months but it will be a while until they can go about life as normal and in normal times they lead completely normal lives

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