xerixio Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 "Pollyanna" may just be the best Green Day album since 21st Century Breakdown. Through these past few years, the music's been pretty mediocre. Despite mediocre lyrics. it brings back some solid GD vibes. Could this be an indication of things to come? Let's hope so. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hermione Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 I don't think they've been mediocre. Albums not being your favourite/to your taste ≠ albums being mediocre. They're not going to go back in time whether it's going back to American Idiot or Dookie or whatever old album, their sound has always changed and evolved. Pollyanna doesn't sound any different to other modern GD stuff to me and every album they've released since 21st CB has contained songs with just as many solid GD vibes as Pollyanna. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffoKate Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Yes, indeed! Oh! The very greatness that is due...! Oh how the dials on the amplifiers have turned. And now we're all gonna get blasted with such a sonic vehemence the likes of which god has never seen. Green Way even adapted the mantra from Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad and customized it to fit their California lifestyle: "In the Digital Domain, Evil Doers may appear Trouble starts Brewing, A super hero will appear Super Human Green Day! ! -Guitar - Super Human Green Day ! Their gonna amp it up, Kick some Giga butt Their gonna rip it up, Our hero always makes the cut! Super Human Green Day ! -Guitar- Super Human Green Day!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Little Boy Named Booze Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Radiation Field said: Yes, indeed! Oh! The very greatness that is due...! Oh how the dials on the amplifiers have turned. And now we're all gonna get blasted with such a sonic vehemence the likes of which god has never seen. Green Way even adapted the mantra from Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad and customized it to fit their California lifestyle: "In the Digital Domain, Evil Doers may appear Trouble starts Brewing, A super hero will appear Super Human Green Day! ! -Guitar - Super Human Green Day ! Their gonna amp it up, Kick some Giga butt Their gonna rip it up, Our hero always makes the cut! Super Human Green Day ! -Guitar- Super Human Green Day!" @That Dude is that you? 3 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 We don't know if a new album is coming any time soon, whether that song will be on it or whether that song is indicative of the sound of the album If it is on the album and indicative of the sound of the album, I don't think it'll be the best since 21CB. It might be the best since RevRad but even that I'm unsure of. Pollyanna only beats out around half of FOAMF imo and if that's the first of the songs from the new album that we're gonna hear, then I'm not gonna be too hyped for their next album. Pollyanna would've been one of the weaker songs on the trilogy or on RevRad, and it doesn't compare to any of the 21CB tracks imo (Yeah people have issues with a couple of tracks but I love all of them) Also, if Pollyanna is on the album, then there's a good chance HCTS will be on the album. If that's the case, then yeah. I'm not gonna be expecting any better than FOAMF I also find it funny that they released a song like this given that Billie said this during the FOAMF promotion: "Rock and roll sometimes has become so tame because a lot of rock acts are always trying to look for the feel-good song of the year or something" and this song kind of seems like that 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FluffyGD Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, xerixio said: "Pollyanna" may just be the best Green Day album since 21st Century Breakdown. How can you compare this lazy uninteresting song to the beast like 21st CB? It's literally not even remotely similar in anything and I'm confused why so many people here think that. If I had to pick the best album since 21st CB I'd choose Love is for Losers or Money Money 2020 Pt II. They're not GD albums but since Billie and GD made them I consider them Green Day material. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerixio Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, FluffyGD said: How can you compare this lazy uninteresting song to the beast like 21st CB? It's literally not even remotely similar in anything and I'm confused why so many people here think that. If I had to pick the best album since 21st CB I'd choose Love is for Losers or Money Money 2020 Pt II. They're not GD albums but since Billie and GD made them I consider them Green Day material. I didn't even think to include side bands. In that case, MMptII is probably up there with the best of GD albums. Maybe not Dookie/AI level, but maybe around Kerplunk/Insomniac level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I also find it funny that they released a song like this given that Billie said this during the FOAMF promotion: "Rock and roll sometimes has become so tame because a lot of rock acts are always trying to look for the feel-good song of the year or something" and this song kind of seems like that 😂 Right? Which is proof we should never listen to a thing he says, he’s full of shit most of the time. What I like is that this song takes us back to the Longshot power pop sound he loves and is so naturally good at. To me it sounds like Green Day again already. I think they tried something different for FOAM, got it out of their system and are done. I doubt they intend to revisit that sound. But just like Green Day popularized punk when everyone said it was impossible, I think he really wants to do the same for power pop. He called it the best music that no one listens to which makes it similar to punk in that way. They’re never going to do another rock opera, concept record or repeat their successes of the past, but maybe they have a shot at popularizing an under appreciated genre again? I think he would love to bring power pop to the masses and do for the genre what he did for punk. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post That Dude Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 50 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: @That Dude is that you? It appears I've infected someone. Very well. My theory is that entire post is lyrics to the next Green Day song, which is part of Album 14, Hot Dog Bratworst Gray Bull Magnum for Stupid Mean People. It's a Power Popera about being happy, getting the most out of life and will instruct the world to just stop being depressed and be awesome. I take that back, that title is a little much. It's called Awesome Forever! 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: We don't know if a new album is coming any time soon, whether that song will be on it or whether that song is indicative of the sound of the album If it is on the album and indicative of the sound of the album, I don't think it'll be the best since 21CB. It might be the best since RevRad but even that I'm unsure of. Pollyanna only beats out around half of FOAMF imo and if that's the first of the songs from the new album that we're gonna hear, then I'm not gonna be too hyped for their next album. Pollyanna would've been one of the weaker songs on the trilogy or on RevRad, and it doesn't compare to any of the 21CB tracks imo (Yeah people have issues with a couple of tracks but I love all of them) Also, if Pollyanna is on the album, then there's a good chance HCTS will be on the album. If that's the case, then yeah. I'm not gonna be expecting any better than FOAMF I also find it funny that they released a song like this given that Billie said this during the FOAMF promotion: "Rock and roll sometimes has become so tame because a lot of rock acts are always trying to look for the feel-good song of the year or something" and this song kind of seems like that Agreed. Polyanna is okay, but I have rather low expectations for the next album, if P. and especially HCTS are regarded as the better tracks. I think stuff he says during interviews can only be taken as his opinion/feelings at the time, not neccessarily as a statement that applies permanently... I mean, he's say anything that comes to his mind 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Well, you can't make a band "great" if they are already. If you don't like it, is ok. It doesn't mean the end of the world for them if they loose a fan or two. I'll defend BJ when he said about the "tame rock stuff" that there wasn't a huge pandemic issue that break a lot of people in more than in a way. Pollyanna is a cute tune but it's message is reinforced by the current state of things. Even if the USA is gonna be "normal" soon if there is not a virus backlash, in other parts of the world the future is not that certain. So that's the main difference with "tame rock songs" and "tame Green Day rock songs" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flashback Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 Well, if I have the choice between „Green Day makes overwhelming music that is so hard to make and it fucks them up mentally so they fall into addiction“ and „Green Day makes the music they just want to make so that they are mentally stable“, I would choose option 2. But I think that RevRad was a nice compromise between the two. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 50 minutes ago, Flashback said: Well, if I have the choice between „Green Day makes overwhelming music that is so hard to make and it fucks them up mentally so they fall into addiction“ and „Green Day makes the music they just want to make so that they are mentally stable“, I would choose option 2. But I think that RevRad was a nice compromise between the two. Definitely want the band to be happy. I believe my Power Popera idea is the best option. American Genius will tell the ongoing life story of Billie as he and his friends make the world a better place and chew bubble gum. Everything is going to be alright. Not just in the end like those debbie downers in Weezer say. But all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 Honestly, Polyanna is like a breath of fresh air after two releases of generally pretty dark songs 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Honestly, Polyanna is like a breath of fresh air after two releases of generally pretty dark songs You mean after 13+ releases of pretty dark songs. Green Day change it up on every album, and each time there are new fans and old haters and vice versa. And yes, it's nice to hear. I hope Billie really IS this optimistic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, That Dude said: You mean after 13+ releases of pretty dark songs. Green Day change it up on every album, and each time there are new fans and old haters and vice versa. And yes, it's nice to hear. I hope Billie really IS this optimistic. Hey, there was Still Breathing just two albums ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 I kinda don't know what to say. As people have said Pollyanna sounds more like Longshot and NFM to me. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if Billie and Chris had done it all themselves but put it out as GD. Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think it's pretty soon for a new album. Although we know Billie's always writing so who knows? Don't get me wrong I don't dislike Pollyanna but I don't especially expect an album like it. Anyway I'm rambling (I struggle to put thoughts into words)! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilshootdawg Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 My thoughts on it is that it's just more generic rock. I just find your standard rock to be boring in most cases and kinda empty. They've just been moving to that style more whether you like it or not. Personally I felt they transitioned completely to that with 21CB with AI coming close to being it at times. (yes yes hating on popular albums but I still wouldn't like it if it wasnt yadada) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Even if a band reaches great heights usually there was a time when they were just ok or even bad. We live in a society where if a band puts out something average or kinda bad everyone suddenly hates them now. It didn’t always used to be this way. Art can affected by many things. Life changes, problems, etc. We shouldn’t expect anything really good anymore. Are they still capable? Absolutely. May just be at a point where it may take longer to come up with something better. Usually by this time in band’s career, you’re seeing 7-10 years or longer between releases. And I’d be ok with that personally. I still like almost everything they’ve released but ever since AI/21CB we’ve seen fewer and fewer good songs with every album. They shouldn’t feel pressure to put out a great album though if it becomes too stressful. I’m ok with side projects being more interesting. I appreciate those a lot. I don’t really care how commercially viable something is. About half of rev rad was really good even if they didn’t have the same commercial viability. Maybe it’s better that way. Green day is more about the magic of the 90’s, early 2000’s. That’s probably why rev rad doesn’t work quite as well as dookie or american idiot or even 21CB. There just wasn’t the same social and musical landscape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I am extremely confused as to the exact nature and purpose of this discussion LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I am extremely confused as to the exact nature and purpose of this discussion LOL. I guess people of GDA want to have an actual say in what Green Day do. I just want them to drastically change their hairstyles, frequently. The music stuff is good how it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
龑美優 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I am so happy that I am not as cynical as some of the people that think GD get worse with every release. All opinions are valid and subjective, I'm just happy that I am objectively able to enjoy what they have been up to since 21stCBD, based on the subjective quality of music. I have only one other bands that I feel have gotten more boring with time, and I wish that was not the case, so I'm happy to be able to continue enjoying new stuff. There was not much point to my post, I guess, I'm really just celebrating my ability to enjoy stuff that I have no control over whether or not I truly enjoy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Im.a.basket.case Posted May 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2021 Never thought they stopped being great....close thread. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Is this "Is Green Day Dead?" Part 2? What is the point? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I’m not really sure what I said that was so cynical or negative. It was more just true about the band’s quality right now but that they are capable of a lot. Just because you want green day to release things often doesn’t make me a horrible person. People can be really non-inclusive just because either you think they are stupid or just slightly negative, which is weird cause a lot of green day and green day related music is like that, but whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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