Guest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said: So what’s the point? Like I said, I have no problem with him releasing a not so great song as a b-side or just to have something to put out while the band can’t tour because of coronavirus or with licensing it to NHL, but I just can’t see any deeper meaning to it, which again, isn’t a problem, I just don’t see it Right? I like the theory but deep down I know this is just a throwaway song Well, we are coming to the conclusion that the song expresses rebellion against Warner, and on a larger scale, perhaps rebelling against a lot of shit in the current world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macys Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: Well, we are coming to the conclusion that the song expresses rebellion against Warner, and on a larger scale, perhaps rebelling against a lot of shit in the current world. I thought we passed that conspiracy stage with warner during the release of foam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangreenday Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 So are Green day still in a contract with Warner ? or was Foamf the end of that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Macys said: I thought we passed that conspiracy stage with warner during the release of foam There may have been more to it than we realized. I think there was behind the scenes drama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I still think you all are projecting a lot into the lyrics of a simple rock song. It's just a lyrically simple pop punk song, not some manifesto. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, pacejunkie punk said: There may have been more to it than we realized. I think there was behind the scenes drama I wish we could get a straight answer on whether they are with Warner still. Warner did release the Network album, right? It seems like they may still be with them, but they may have forced Warner's hand and gotten themselves a better contract. So this could be like a gloating victory lap too, you know, like, "Suck on this Warner" (I heard that in my head in Billie's voice as I wrote it LOL). I think they trolled Warner a bit with FOAM as well. But yes, I do honestly believe it is some form of commentary both on the music industry and on broader issues in society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, GRNSTR10 said: No, I meant a Green Day song. It would be the same tune as the "We are the broken records sitting in the sun" part. I think I'm thinking of ¿Viva La Gloria? during the bridge. It sounds similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macys Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I wish we could get a straight answer on whether they are with Warner still. Warner did release the Network album, right? It seems like they may still be with them, but they may have forced Warner's hand and gotten themselves a better contract. So this could be like a gloating victory lap too, you know, like, "Suck on this Warner" (I heard that in my head in Billie's voice as I wrote it LOL). I think they trolled Warner a bit with FOAM as well. But yes, I do honestly believe it is some form of commentary both on the music industry and on broader issues in society. I think there’s no behind the scenes. Gd and Warner had some issues and Green Day decided to quit but both parties quickly resolved the situation. And now the guys are back and brought some new music. 2 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: I can't place it, but the tune these lyrics are sung to definitely sounds recycled from a recent song. Can someone help? Be-Bop-a-Lula, baby Annie, get your gun Yeah sounds awfully familiar. If you find it text me Edited February 22, 2021 by Macys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: No, I meant a Green Day song. It would be the same tune as the "We are the broken records sitting in the sun" part. I think I'm thinking of ¿Viva La Gloria? during the bridge. It sounds similar. Reminded me of "It's not 1 to 99, it's 99 to 1." Interestingly the two songs are lyrically the same lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macys Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: No, I meant a Green Day song. It would be the same tune as the "We are the broken records sitting in the sun" part. I think I'm thinking of ¿Viva La Gloria? during the bridge. It sounds similar. Maybe “it’s giving me the chills” forever now? 3 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Reminded me of "It's not 1 to 99, it's 99 to 1." Interestingly the two songs are lyrically the same lol. Yeah sounds similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dudley dawson Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 Interestingly, nothing Green Day has released since the trilogy has been nearly as good as the trilogy 🤔 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Macys said: The lady represents the last of the American girl or viva la Gloria? And that iggy punch is definitely for Donald trump Visually it’s better yeah and also sounds better as well when it’s barely hearable. I get that you are joking but you may not really be wrong LOL. But I think the aerobics lady represents all the frustrated homebound and Internet-obsessed people in the pandemic. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BillieMyLove said: I get that you are joking but you may not really be wrong LOL. But I think the aerobics lady represents all the frustrated homebound and Internet-obsessed people in the pandemic. 🤣 Grasping at straws 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The song has had 12,672 plays so far on Spotify. I'm guessing that's not a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Grasping at straws I mean, this was essentially a joke, but I do still believe the song is about something. All of their songs are about something, with the possible exception of Fire ready Aim, but that was written for an NHL promo. I don't really see them releasing any song for the hell of it right now, not when they just released an album a year ago. It's not like they would be pressured to put something out. Anyway, it's fine if you don't see it or don't like the song; just let the people who enjoy it do so. 2 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: The song has had 12,672 plays so far on Spotify. I'm guessing that's not a lot Probably only the diehard Green Day fans or people who watch the NHL even know it is out. It wasn't like it was really heavily promoted. Also I have been listening to the video; I haven't played it on Spotify yet, so there is that. And it only went up today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: No, I meant a Green Day song. It would be the same tune as the "We are the broken records sitting in the sun" part. I think I'm thinking of ¿Viva La Gloria? during the bridge. It sounds similar. Make me think of Last Guy Finish Last ''Pressure, cook, and pick my brain and tell me I'm insane'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Reminded me of "It's not 1 to 99, it's 99 to 1." Interestingly the two songs are lyrically the same lol. 17 minutes ago, Macys said: Maybe “it’s giving me the chills” forever now? Yeah sounds similar Both of those don't sound too far off either. I hate turning into one of those "they never do anything creative anymore" people but this song is just so lazy and bad. But they're still capable of doing good stuff, which is why it's so confusing. Even for one-off songs. I absolutely loved (and still love) Back in the USA and its video. I really thought it was an insight of what might be to come post-Rev Rad. But boy was I wrong. 1 minute ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: Make me think of Last Guy Finish Last ''Pressure, cook, and pick my brain and tell me I'm insane'' Oh my God, that one too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I mean, this was essentially a joke, but I do still believe the song is about something. All of their songs are about something, with the possible exception of Fire ready Aim, but that was written for an NHL promo. I don't really see them releasing any song for the hell of it right now, not when they just released an album a year ago. It's not like they would be pressured to put something out. Anyway, it's fine if you don't see it or don't like the song; just let the people who enjoy it do so. FRA was about something. It's about people on social media that shoot their mouths off without thinking, lying and taking extreme positions ("Babys' got the hyperbole!"). Fire, Ready, Aim means to fire off first without pausing to take aim (or think). It was selected for the NHL but wasn't written for them 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Warner sent off emails promoting this song they’re still on Reprise/Warner 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, WhiteTim said: Warner sent off emails promoting this song they’re still on Reprise/Warner To some extent but under what terms because the songs are now copyrighted to Green Day so clearly something has changed. Maybe they just do distribution and/or promotion now but it's not as simplistic as saying they are either "still on" Warner or they're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GRNSTR10 Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 hours ago, That Dude said: To read stuff like that is why we're here. Haha, well, even if it's just an audience of one (you), I'll do it, especially because for some reason the narrative that the song is about Warner has taken hold that I feel ignores the other social context/language. So, here we go: this is why I think "Here Comes the Shock" is about the BLM protests and riots last summer from the perspective of people who either protested or sympathize with the protestors. The song is done in the style of a classic rock and roll/power pop song that could earn corporate approval (NHL). Gonna do this via a line by line lyric dissection: "Here comes the shock" As I mentioned, I think this is a direct reference to how surprised people feel when there are videos showcasing police brutality or racism. It feels almost mocking, like, how can we as a society be shocked by this each time it happens when it feels like it happens so often? "We got the numbers, gonna rumble in the street" The BLM protests were the largest and most multi-racial coalition to take to the streets in response to police brutality in the world's history. The numbers of bodies in the street was literally staggering. And, often in these protests, protestors had violent clashes with police in the city streets. "We’re screaming bloody murder, We’re gonna take it to the grave" BLM has been around since 2012, but calls for racial equality have been around for about as long as the history of the country. Calls for change have been happening and may leaders have been assassinated or killed for voicing their protest (take it to the grave). Additionally, there seemed to be widespread criticism of the media's coverage of the George Floyd killing for not labeling his death as a murder. "Bebop a lula baby, Annie get your gun" These are both references to classic rock and roll songs, a nod to the genre's history and the attempt to recreate the same style with this song. "We’re gonna shoot it baby gonna do some damage and some damage will be done" Shoot here could infer the shooting of these police brutality incidents via camera video. The damage lines I think refer to the rioting that took place in response to frustration at police departments and society as a whole for failing to making meaningful change to address racism. "Here comes the shock" Basically a refrain mocking the surprise that people feel, not only at the unarmed killings, but now also the surprise that community members respond to police brutality and lack of change through violent frustration as was the case in the 1960s with the Watts riots, the 1990s with the Rodney King riots and now the riots last summer. "We got the creatures and we got no place to go" Feel like this line is in reference that the Black community is living in a country with nefarious people who want them dead ('creatures') and the line about 'no place to go' references that the Black community was brought here against their will and do not have a home to return to so they must make change here now. "We’re screaming truth to power, From the barrio" And this is the line that clued me in to the message of the song in totality. 'Truth to power' is a common refrain of protestors and civil rights activists. Barrio is a term used for predominantly brown communities in the United States, so a faction of the protests are coming from traditionally minority communities which has historically been the case. "We are the broken records, Sitting in the sun" I believe this recalls/references the fact that protests and calls for social justice have been around for a LONG TIME. Some of the same demands and slogans have been used for decades without feeling like real change has happened, hence feeling like a broken record. Sitting in the sun could be an obvious reference to the fact that the protests took place last summer, or that records get warped or melt when left in the sun which could mean that the refusal to hear these call for change could lead to distortions or just transformations of what the movement will look like. "Turn up the amplifier, Gonna do some damage and some damage will be done" Basically, we're gonna get louder and do what we gotta do to have our message heard even if that means a riot. "Here comes the shock" Think it's clear by now what I think this line means. Would be even more interesting if the original line actually was, "Here comes the shot". I would end with that, while I know many people are frustrated or disappointed in the song, that this read of the song makes it more interesting to me and is fun test case of how to smuggle a protest song through corporate sponsorship into the masses. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: To some extent but under what terms because the songs are now copyrighted to Green Day so clearly something has changed. Maybe they just do distribution and/or promotion now but it's not as simplistic as saying they are either "still on" Warner or they're not. they’re still on the website under artists... I think people are reading too much into iTunes... the artists/labels/whoever handles the digital uploads can put whatever they want to under the rights section 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Little Boy Named Booze Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 Me just thinking that the song is shit. Everybody else: 3 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: FRA was about something. It's about people on social media that shoot their mouths off without thinking, lying and taking extreme positions ("Babys' got the hyperbole!"). Fire, Ready, Aim means to fire off first without pausing to take aim (or think). It was selected for the NHL but wasn't written for them Wow, I never really thought of it like that. Though I do still wish there were more/different lyrics, and that is was not so poppy/repetitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I get so much secondhand embarrassment from reading the lyrics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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