cav9mm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Maybe Anthony Fantano was right ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SumDay Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 The lyrics are bullshit, but the music is tight. Really reminds me of the musical/instrumental powerhouse they were in the past; something I personally missed during Trilogy & Revolution Radio. And I second the theory of this being a left-over of FOAM. It's obviously something Billie wrote in five minutes. The coke reference pisses me off, but I have to say: it makes sense. Associating coke with an electrical feeling is an obvious metaphor, so I just see it as (and not more than) that in my book. So I'm looking forward to future releases – the production is very good, musical songwriting very tight, Tré & Mike on their A-Game and Billie's singing is also very good. If that crackhead finally starts spending more than thirteen seconds to think of lyrics again, we're golden imo. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 The only good thing about this song is when Tré is screaming at the end “You’re doing it fuckin’ wrong” like in Highway 1 Honestly I'm really disappointed in our guys right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
þjáningu Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, cav9mm said: Maybe Anthony Fantano was right ... I thought he was harsh on the foam review ... but as the months went on I started to agree with his review more and more. He also a few weeks ago made a top 20 worst albums of 2020 and ranked foam 3rd and I found myself fully agreeing with what he said in his summary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PluckyJokerhead Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 I feel like the negativity is a bit over the top, it's a fun enough song that doesn't mean much but clearly it's either a b-side or just written for the NHL contract. If anybody was expecting a one-off NHL song to be any deeper lyrically then they were expecting too much from the get-go. It's not like this is a Back in the USA situation where the song was written straight after and as a result of a large political event, or the Network album where it was clearly more of a passion project and an excuse for the boys to have a bit of fun. The next time they release a song without any clear contractual obligation/sports promotion/advert attached, I'll be expecting the more usual standard of songwriting from them. For now this is just a fun little song to tide us over . Also don't forget that recording music together can't be very easy at the moment, so they might not have been able to write a new song even if they wanted to. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 hours ago, LiamMartel said: please billie stop singing "baby", when he started to do that ? in the trilogy? I mean, it's not his deepest lyric LOL, but it is kinda sexy. 🤷♀️ 3 minutes ago, PluckyJokerhead said: I feel like the negativity is a bit over the top, it's a fun enough song that doesn't mean much but clearly it's either a b-side or just written for the NHL contract. If anybody was expecting a one-off NHL song to be any deeper lyrically then they were expecting too much from the get-go. It's not like this is a Back in the USA situation where the song was written straight after and as a result of a large political event, or the Network album where it was clearly more of a passion project and an excuse for the boys to have a bit of fun. The next time they release a song without any clear contractual obligation/sports promotion/advert attached, I'll be expecting the more usual standard of songwriting from them. For now this is just a fun little song to tide us over . Also don't forget that recording music together can't be very easy at the moment, so they might not have been able to write a new song even if they wanted to. This 1000%. The negativity over everything on this site is way over the top LOL. They aren't going to release Jesus of Suburbia for the NHL LOL. And given the amount of material they have released in the past year, you know that they have lots of b-sides and unused songs laying around and that is what they are going to release right now. It takes three or four years to produce a quality album, and while I have a feeling they are writing a lot in quarantine, recording and producing is going to be a challenge right now with covid as you noted. Filming and producing a good quality music video is much like shooting a film, and that isn't feasible right now with covid either. Those who want to compare to the FOAM videos forget that those videos were filmed before covid. Right now a stupid homemade Tik Tok-esque video is about all you can do. At any rate, I love the sound of the song musically. It loses the lame FOAM sound and goes back to their signature sound. Now if they can pair that sound with some good writing and we can all be patient until covid lets up and give them the time to produce songs and film videos more professionally, I think we will be pleased. The Network album proved they have some deep stuff to say; now just give them some time to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe. Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, PluckyJokerhead said: I feel like the negativity is a bit over the top, it's a fun enough song that doesn't mean much but clearly it's either a b-side or just written for the NHL contract. If anybody was expecting a one-off NHL song to be any deeper lyrically then they were expecting too much from the get-go. It's not like this is a Back in the USA situation where the song was written straight after and as a result of a large political event, or the Network album where it was clearly more of a passion project and an excuse for the boys to have a bit of fun. The next time they release a song without any clear contractual obligation/sports promotion/advert attached, I'll be expecting the more usual standard of songwriting from them. For now this is just a fun little song to tide us over . Also don't forget that recording music together can't be very easy at the moment, so they might not have been able to write a new song even if they wanted to. Do you not think that's an issue? The band churning out low quality music solely for the paycheque? The more I think about it the more frustrating it is. It's one thing to sell songs for advertising etc but writing/releasing songs because of a contract with a corporation doesn't seem to fit with the genre/band's values. To top it off it's a genuinely terrible, that's disappointing to me as someone who used to love the band, but maybe I'm in the minority. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Lol I think if they wrote this specifically for the NHL they would have tightened things up a bit and cut the snorting part. It's pretty much a generic ode to rock n' roll which definitely feels like something Billie would just write haha. Enough with these conspiracies that the band are writing songs specifically for the NHL, it's weird. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckyJokerhead Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Joe. said: Do you not think that's an issue? The band churning out low quality music solely for the paycheque? The more I think about it the more frustrating it is. It's one thing to sell songs for advertising etc but writing/releasing songs because of a contract with a corporation doesn't seem to fit with the genre/band's values. To top it off it's a genuinely terrible, that's disappointing to me as someone who used to love the band, but maybe I'm in the minority. Writing/releasing just because of a contract doesn't seem to fit with their values, you're right -- and I'm willing to bet they feel the same, which to me is more of an explanation for the uninspired music. It's a contract, which I doubt they had much hand in setting up, so even if they don't like the idea of it they have to release something regardless. 1 minute ago, Clockwise said: Lol I think if they wrote this specifically for the NHL they would have tightened things up a bit and cut the snorting part. It's pretty much a generic ode to rock n' roll which definitely feels like something Billie would just write haha. Enough with these conspiracies that the band are writing songs specifically for the NHL, it's weird. Yeah I'm not sure it was written specifically for it, but if not it's clearly a b-side leftover from something else, and whatever that was it wasn't included for a reason. So I feel like they probably know it's not incredible/needs more work and that's both why we haven't heard it before and why none of the band are even bothering to promote it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killjoywhatsername Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Train27 said: LETS NOT ALL FORGET NIGHTLIFE! Since you all want to bash them for doing a garage sound and trying to touch their roots. Quality or not, I appreciate this song because it gives me something to vibe until we get more. Also during that last chorus instead of hearing the “repetition”, listen to the music and the background sounds. Nightlife has more interesting lyrics than this one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Joe. said: Do you not think that's an issue? The band churning out low quality music solely for the paycheque? The more I think about it the more frustrating it is. It's one thing to sell songs for advertising etc but writing/releasing songs because of a contract with a corporation doesn't seem to fit with the genre/band's values. To top it off it's a genuinely terrible, that's disappointing to me as someone who used to love the band, but maybe I'm in the minority. Look, I don't know why they decided to do a partnership with the NHL. It does seem unusual for them and makes me wonder if this was something Warner pushed on them to get them publicity. I don't really see them wanting to be stuck writing the songs someone else wants them too. But it is still their choice, and I find the personal attacks that get thrown on them every time someone doesn't like a song a little much. As I have stated here before, musically the song is excellent. Pair that with some better lyrics and let the world open up to where they can make a better video, and I think everything will be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopride84 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 the opening drum roll bit was awesome. seems they were trying to write a ramones type song. i guess life is different when youre 50 sitting in a million dollar home writing songs rather than being 20 and squating in a basement eating ramen all day. oh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christian's Inferno! Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I mean, it's not his deepest lyric LOL, but it is kinda sexy. 🤷♀️ This 1000%. The negativity over everything on this site is way over the top LOL. They aren't going to release Jesus of Suburbia for the NHL LOL. And given the amount of material they have released in the past year, you know that they have lots of b-sides and unused songs laying around and that is what they are going to release right now. It takes three or four years to produce a quality album, and while I have a feeling they are writing a lot in quarantine, recording and producing is going to be a challenge right now with covid as you noted. Filming and producing a good quality music video is much like shooting a film, and that isn't feasible right now with covid either. Those who want to compare to the FOAM videos forget that those videos were filmed before covid. Right now a stupid homemade Tik Tok-esque video is about all you can do. At any rate, I love the sound of the song musically. It loses the lame FOAM sound and goes back to their signature sound. Now if they can pair that sound with some good writing and we can all be patient until covid lets up and give them the time to produce songs and film videos more professionally, I think we will be pleased. The Network album proved they have some deep stuff to say; now just give them some time to say it. Can we stop with this "Anyone who's critical of this song just wants another AI/JoS" stuff? Literally nobody is saying they expected a JoS. I just expect any song with the Green Day label to be of decent quality. At least I did until quite recently. This track doesn't even compare against the band's older B-sides 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffoKate Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Are they ever going to get a producer who isn't afraid to crank up the backing vocals and Mike? Why are the harmonies always so quiet? Edited February 21, 2021 by Radiation Field 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Clockwise said: Lol I think if they wrote this specifically for the NHL they would have tightened things up a bit and cut the snorting part. It's pretty much a generic ode to rock n' roll which definitely feels like something Billie would just write haha. Enough with these conspiracies that the band are writing songs specifically for the NHL, it's weird. It's been released because of contractual obligation, don't care whether it's a leftover B-side or a new song. It's still bad and it still doesn't sit well. 7 minutes ago, PluckyJokerhead said: Writing/releasing just because of a contract doesn't seem to fit with their values, you're right -- and I'm willing to bet they feel the same, which to me is more of an explanation for the uninspired music. It's a contract, which I doubt they had much hand in setting up, so even if they don't like the idea of it they have to release something regardless. Yeah I'm not sure it was written specifically for it, but if not it's clearly a b-side leftover from something else, and whatever that was it wasn't included for a reason. So I feel like they probably know it's not incredible/needs more work and that's both why we haven't heard it before and why none of the band are even bothering to promote it. So why bother releasing it? If the band think it's shit then they shouldn't put it out, unless they have a contractual obligation to the NHL which is even worse. How can you try and act like the band don't control their own careers at this point in their lives? 4 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: Look, I don't know why they decided to do a partnership with the NHL. It does seem unusual for them and makes me wonder if this was something Warner pushed on them to get them publicity. I don't really see them wanting to be stuck writing the songs someone else wants them too. But it is still their choice, and I find the personal attacks that get thrown on them every time someone doesn't like a song a little much. As I have stated here before, musically the song is excellent. Pair that with some better lyrics and let the world open up to where they can make a better video, and I think everything will be just fine. Money talks. If they didn't want to do that promo, they wouldn't do it. 3 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Can we stop with this "Anyone who's critical of this song just wants another AI/JoS" stuff? Literally nobody is saying they expected a JoS. I just expect any song with the Green Day label to be of decent quality. At least I did until quite recently. This track doesn't even compare against the band's older B-sides Exactly. Is it too much to ask for a well-written song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Can we stop with this "Anyone who's critical of this song just wants another AI/JoS" stuff? Literally nobody is saying they expected a JoS. I just expect any song with the Green Day label to be of decent quality. At least I did until quite recently. This track doesn't even compare against the band's older B-sides That wasn't what I said. And there are people on here who are acting like they expected extremely deep, mind-blowing writing for an NHL game. At any rate, I DO think this is a very good quality song. The musical quality is excellent, better than most of FOAM by far. I think the people who are acting like anything that is not a masterpiece is trash are being unreasonable. Also, I am just pissed because it is impossible to have a conversation on this site with differing opinions without it devolving into a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckyJokerhead Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joe. said: Exactly. Is it too much to ask for a well-written song? You're right about that for sure. But at the same time, Money Money 2020 Part II had so many great songs (imo of course) that them releasing one slightly subpar song isn't the worst thing in the world to me. Again, it's not easy to record stuff in current times so maybe this was all they had? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, PluckyJokerhead said: You're right about that for sure. But at the same time, Money Money 2020 Part II had so many great songs (imo of course) that them releasing one slightly subpar song isn't the worst thing in the world to me. Again, it's not easy to record stuff in current times so maybe this was all they had? I just don't know what is so bad about the song. It sounds great and a hell of a lot better than FOAM. Better writing and better videos will come with better times. As you point out, MM2020II shows that the writing chops are still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: That wasn't what I said. And there are people on here who are acting like they expected extremely deep, mind-blowing writing for an NHL game. At any rate, I DO think this is a very good quality song. The musical quality is excellent, better than most of FOAM by far. I think the people who are acting like anything is not a masterpiece is trash are being unreasonable. Also, I am just pissed because it is impossible to have a conversation on this site with differing opinions without it devolving into a fight. Can you refer me to any comments expecting a mind-blowing song? I don't agree that this song is "better than most of FOAM by far". I think it's better than Oh Yeah & IWATT. That's about it. I think this song is basically FRA except not as catchy and even lazier lyrically. FOA has those annoying falsetto vocals but otherwise is a decent song. And the rest of the album is actually okay and is superior to this song imo Of course everyone can have their own opinion on this song. But I've not seen anyone saying "If you like the song, then stop because you shouldn't like it". If you like it, then good. It's great that you can enjoy something that I can't. I'm just giving my thoughts and my opinion is that this is disappointing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckyJokerhead Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I just don't know what is so bad about the song. It sounds great and a hell of a lot better than FOAM. Better writing and better videos will come with better times. As you point out, MM2020II shows that the writing chops are still there. Hence me saying 'slightly subpar' I've been trying to avoid actually even stating my opinion properly on the song because that was kind of irrelevant to my point -- but yeah, considering all circumstances of this year and last, and the sound of this sonically vs. FOAMF (as much as I love some of the songs + lyrics, Butch Walker's overly compressed drums and generally weak tones definitely drag it down somewhat) this is actually a pretty good song and I was honestly surprised to get anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Christian's Inferno! said: Can you refer me to any comments expecting a mind-blowing song? I don't agree that this song is "better than most of FOAM by far". I think it's better than Oh Yeah & IWATT. That's about it. I think this song is basically FRA except not as catchy and even lazier lyrically. FOA has those annoying falsetto vocals but otherwise is a decent song. And the rest of the album is actually pretty okay and is superior to this song imo Of course everyone can have their own opinion on this song. But I've not seen anyone saying "If you like the song, then stop because you shouldn't like it". If you like it, then good. It's great that you can enjoy something that I can't. I'm just giving my thoughts and my opinion is that this is disappointing I don't know how one can even draw a parallel between this and FRA. Fire Ready Aim is an annoying clap-track pop song that makes absolutely no sense. This is a tight rock song with killer drums and guitar and great vocals and lyrics that may not make you ponder the meaning of life for hours but still make some kind of a coherent point beyond telling you to "stick a hammer in your mouth." I can't possibly dig back through this whole thread and find people bitching about the lyrics and wanting some kind of deep social commentary because this thread has grown exponentially just since I looked at it last night and I actually have other things to do (like my taxes). If you're that interested then go back to the first few pages and find it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I don't know how one can even draw a parallel between this and FRA. Fire Ready Aim is an annoying clap-track pop song that makes absolutely no sense. This is a tight rock song with killer drums and guitar and great vocals and lyrics that may not make you ponder the meaning of life for hours but still make some kind of a coherent point beyond telling you to "stick a hammer in your mouth." I can't possibly dig back through this whole thread and find people bitching about the lyrics and wanting some kind of deep social commentary because this thread has grown exponentially just since I looked at it last night and I actually have other things to do (like my taxes). If you're that interested then go back to the first few pages and find it yourself. I've been following this thread the whole time and haven't seen anyone expecting anything mindblowing. But when the lyrics are absolute nonsense, copying lyrics from their previous songs serving no purpose or just repeating the song title over and over again, I don't have a problem with those "bitching about the lyrics". FRA isn't a good song but it's alright. I can listen to FOAMF without skipping that song and when I listen to it, I can find myself nodding along with it. When I hear Here Comes The Shock. Nothing I don't think FRA is much better than this one but I would rank it slightly above this track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe. said: Do you not think that's an issue? The band churning out low quality music solely for the paycheque? The more I think about it the more frustrating it is. It's one thing to sell songs for advertising etc but writing/releasing songs because of a contract with a corporation doesn't seem to fit with the genre/band's values. To top it off it's a genuinely terrible, that's disappointing to me as someone who used to love the band, but maybe I'm in the minority. I think it's unlikely they wrote it specifically with only this in mind, and especially unlikely that they consciously wouldn't put effort into it. I think they put effort into all their songs, just some come out better than others. It's more just that they're probably not going to select the most revolutionary or deep song/idea for a song they have for something like this. They'll select a light and catchy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 I normally don’t prefer instrumentals but in this case I make an exception. Listening to the instrumental version, the music rocks. Very punk vibe. (I said Misfits before and I double down on that here). It’s the lyrics and vocal effects that make the song cringe 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Q-Man Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 I have a feeling that if they were able to tour or play live right now, people would have a much different view of this song after seeing a live performance. This song would be a blast to go nuts to at a show. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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