Clockwise Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Which classic Green Day sound would that be, the Dookie one or the American Idiot one? Precisely. The classic Green Day sound is whatever album or albums the person using that term likes the most. As a band they've always continued to push forward sonically, and the moment they stop pursuing that progress is the the beginning of the end IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I don't think the band should stay away for their 'classic sound' in the next record, since they experiment so much in side projects, I don't see the point of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Alf said: I don't think the band should stay away for their 'classic sound' in the next record, since they experiment so much in side projects, I don't see the point of it. Describe their “classic sound” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, pacejunkie punk said: Describe their “classic sound” 90's plus idiot era which incorporate new elements to their old sonic signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPunk94 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Describe their “classic sound” everything but not sth like foam again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, Alf said: 90's plus idiot era which incorporate new elements to their old sonic signature If you're including everything from 1989-2004 as classic Green Day, then there's no point in using the term. American Idiot is completely different to 39/Smooth and the early EPs in every way. Depending on how you define the word classic, you could also include 21CB in there. Or Uno as that's been described as "classic Green Day" by Billie Joe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: If you're including everything from 1989-2004 as classic Green Day, then there's no point in using the term. American Idiot is completely different to 39/Smooth and the early EPs in every way. Depending on how you define the word classic, you could also include 21CB in there. Or Uno as that's been described as "classic Green Day" by Billie Joe Totally agree, it's amazing how Green Day changed their styles over the years. I'd say that they literally never did what was expected from them (even 21CB was unexpected in my opinion because the quality in terms of the songwriting/production/effort was just on another level in comparison to everything before), so FOAM was somehow the logical consequence of GD's evolution, because nobody expected them to do such an album after RevRad (at least I didn't) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clockwise Posted April 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2021 The past is dead, you can't go back there even if you wanted to. They're clearly happier exploring new horizons both in Green Day and side-projects so I think we'll just have to accept that going forward the new material won't be for everyone. Those classic Green Day albums aren't going anywhere, and I maintain that if they start purposefully retreading old ground it will only end up sounding like a hollow imitation of their past successes. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Flashback said: Totally agree, it's amazing how Green Day changed their styles over the years. I'd say that they literally never did what was expected from them (even 21CB was unexpected in my opinion because the quality in terms of the songwriting/production/effort was just on another level in comparison to everything before), so FOAM was somehow the logical consequence of GD's evolution, because nobody expected them to do such an album after RevRad (at least I didn't) 2 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: If you're including everything from 1989-2004 as classic Green Day, then there's no point in using the term. American Idiot is completely different to 39/Smooth and the early EPs in every way. Depending on how you define the word classic, you could also include 21CB in there. Or Uno as that's been described as "classic Green Day" by Billie Joe Yes, it is completely different, but you can still see the traces of their old sound in them, just like in every other record, except the whole majority of Father Of All. I just said 90's plus Idiot because what came next is a blend of everything - 21cb is a atep forward from idiot but it also has sonorities that can be recognized in old GD tunes, same with the trilogy - the only departure from their 'classic' sound is FOAM. This is a discussion that won't go anywhere, but you don't need to play dumb, pretending you don't know what a 'green day classic sound' would be. Overall I just want to say that a group of musicians who has a side project to explore everyother styles they want, don't need to keep changing GD's sounding at every new release... they can play safe as Green Day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakabanas Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 At the very least I expect music. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I wasn’t playing dumb when I asked the question. My point was I don’t think they have one classic sound. Every album sounds different so when people say that it doesn’t really mean anything 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Alf said: Yes, it is completely different, but you can still see the traces of their old sound in them, just like in every other record, except the whole majority of Father Of All. I just said 90's plus Idiot because what came next is a blend of everything - 21cb is a atep forward from idiot but it also has sonorities that can be recognized in old GD tunes, same with the trilogy - the only departure from their 'classic' sound is FOAM. This is a discussion that won't go anywhere, but you don't need to play dumb, pretending you don't know what a 'green day classic sound' would be When "green day classic sound" can literally mean anything except their most recent album, then no I'm not exactly sure what sound you're talking about. Also, FOAM isn't really all that different from Green Day's regular sound outside of a couple tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 well. if you guys can't see similarities between 39/smooth to nimrod, it's impossible to discuss this. I know their sound evolved, but the basics remained the same during their first 15 years as a band... after Idiot they branched out that sonority, but it is always part of their new music... also, it's impossible to hear 'Back In The Usa' and don't have the feeling that 'oh my god, this is green day'... different if you go listen to 'Oh Yeah', where probably you thought 'what a fuck is this' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trambopoline Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I hope they never do another Green Day record and make The Network their full-time project /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, Herroon said: I hope they never do another Green Day record and make The Network their full-time project /s Even that would get old quick idk. I want more Green Day for sure but I want side projects in general to continue as well because it’s clear Green Day has become this narrow thing for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trambopoline Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, pacejunkie punk said: Even that would get old quick idk. I want more Green Day for sure but I want side projects in general to continue as well because it’s clear Green Day has become this narrow thing for them. Yeah, it'd definitely get old fast. Hence the /s. In all seriousness though, I'd like to see Green Day try the ramones-core thing The Network was doing. Songs like TLM, CUNT, etc. are some of the most fun ones Billie's written in a long time imo. I think Green Day proper could really knock that sound out of the park 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jengd Posted April 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2021 Not sure about expect, but would like some Billie/Mike harmonies! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, jengd said: Not sure about expect, but would like some Billie/Mike harmonies! yes!!! how I miss their harmonies 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluckyJokerhead Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 They never do the same thing twice. I'm not going to try to predict what Album 14 ends up sounding like but considering pretty much every album since Dookie has had its own sound I definitely don't expect another Motherfuckers (although I actually really love that record so would absolutely welcome that). Even the only direct sequel they've ever done (We Told Ya So) sounded pretty far from the original Network record. Also, more comedy in Green Day! Stuff like Respirator, Cancer is the New Black, Amnesia Vagabond were so refreshing and really reminded me of songs from Nimrod and moments in AI (Homecoming) where you can tell it's just the band having a blast creatively -- but also there's a clear essence of quality where you can really tell they worked really hard on the project and wanted to write the absolute best album they could. Come to think of it RevRad was like that too with how Bang Bang is lyrically. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trambopoline Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, jengd said: Not sure about expect, but would like some Billie/Mike harmonies! yes!! I've missed mike's backing vocals on the last few records 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Alf said: they can play safe as Green Day Damn that sounds boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Alf said: well. if you guys can't see similarities between 39/smooth to nimrod, it's impossible to discuss this. I know their sound evolved, but the basics remained the same during their first 15 years as a band... after Idiot they branched out that sonority, but it is always part of their new music... also, it's impossible to hear 'Back In The Usa' and don't have the feeling that 'oh my god, this is green day'... different if you go listen to 'Oh Yeah', where probably you thought 'what a fuck is this' If you can't see similarities between FOAMF and RevRad/trilogy, then same. Btw, people said "what the fuck is this" about Nightlife too which arguably is less green day sounding than any of the songs on FOAMF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 A neverending virtual tour that I can go to anytime I want. Huge anthems that make 21 Guns seem small potatos. And as Mike likes to say, Green Day firing on all cylinders. As Billie likes to say, 100% Green Day. As Tre likes to make, poop joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 What about Green Day partnering with another band for an entire album? The Saints are Coming is the greatest song of all time, space and coffee and I think this could work well across multiple songs. Instead of U2, I'd like to see a Green Day/Offspring record. Greenspring, The Off Day, GrofDing or a completely new name. I feel like they could compliment each other and possibly correct a lot of the issues that people have with each other. The Offspring are basically just Dex and Noodles, so it would be basically a five piece band. Title - Nail in the Pop Punk Coffin Some orchestral pieces. Sequels to homecoming and JOS. And the rest is a mix of earliest era of both bands and their usual sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, That Dude said: What about Green Day partnering with another band for an entire album? The Saints are Coming is the greatest song of all time, space and coffee and I think this could work well across multiple songs. Instead of U2, I'd like to see a Green Day/Offspring record. Greenspring, The Off Day, GrofDing or a completely new name. I feel like they could compliment each other and possibly correct a lot of the issues that people have with each other. The Offspring are basically just Dex and Noodles, so it would be basically a five piece band. Title - Nail in the Pop Punk Coffin Some orchestral pieces. Sequels to homecoming and JOS. And the rest is a mix of earliest era of both bands and their usual sound. As a big fan of both bands, this is a collab I would fully embrace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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