Blowing The Doors Off The Green Day Vault ( Jeremy's Share Thread)

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

Yo, @Todd, remember when you said that if we find lost Green Day that you'll (either eat or blend up) your Nimrod (CD, maybe)?

Can this count as lost Green Day?

[Gwen Stacy]

49 minutes ago, SmoothedOut said:

Agreed. I wonder why Green Day has never made an official release though. You would have thought they'd take some footage out of the vault for the RNRHOF montage but they didn't ... The videos in that montage looked like they were ripped straight off of YouTube. 😂

I actually think that’s the story people are missing here. What does Warner/Green Day have to gain at this point by sitting on this stuff? Why is it left to fans to release it? I hate to say it but it’s not like the market for it is going to get bigger as time goes on. I would love to pay for some sort of official version of Jaded uncut but I can’t.

I’m sure part of this is Green Day wanting to look forward and not back as a band but it’s not a bad time to be doing some legacy moves. But so far they seem to have an aversion to anniversary or special releases. Although the new Insomniac vinyl re-issue is maybe a sign this is starting to change. 

[Todd]

Just now, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Yo, @Todd, remember when you said that if we find lost Green Day that you'll (either eat or blend up) your Nimrod (CD, maybe)?

Can this count as lost Green Day?

Oh I'm sorry, you found this lost MTV footage?  No, I think I was specifically addressing the kid with the fake demo posts. Obviously there are people out there that have real stuff like Jeremy, cool stuff like this pops up every few years. 

[SmoothedOut]

31 minutes ago, Gwen Stacy said:

I’m sure part of this is Green Day wanting to look forward and not back as a band but it’s not a bad time to be doing some legacy moves. But so far they seem to have an aversion to anniversary or special releases. Although the new Insomniac vinyl re-issue is maybe a sign this is starting to change. 

Maybe they're just Punk like that. 🤔

Maybe they didn't care much for footage/documentation back then? Or at least, good quality footage... But they had people film them at Pinole Valley High...

It's hard to believe but at the same time, it's believable. And I agree, it's the perfect time to jump on the 90s nostalgia train ... but then again, who gives a fuck about that 😂

Well, Billie joe does -sometimes... 🤔

[trambopoline]

38 minutes ago, SmoothedOut said:

Maybe they didn't care much for footage/documentation back then? Or at least, good quality footage... But they had people film them at Pinole Valley High...

It's hard to believe but at the same time, it's believable. And I agree, it's the perfect time to jump on the 90s nostalgia train ... but then again, who gives a fuck about that 😂

Well, Billie joe does -sometimes... 🤔

Well we have Pinole, Prauge, Jaded, Woodstock, and at least a few other old proshots too, right? It feels to me like there was plenty of documentation, but the band just didn't want to release it for whatever reason. I ((personally)) think @Gwen Stacy's point about looking forward is the correct answer, but who knows. 

[Todd]

10 minutes ago, Herroon said:

Well we have Pinole, Prauge, Jaded, Woodstock, and at least a few other old proshots too, right? It feels to me like there was plenty of documentation, but the band just didn't want to release it for whatever reason. I ((personally)) think @Gwen Stacy's point about looking forward is the correct answer, but who knows. 

Pinole is not really proshot. It was just an amateur guy with a nice camera, and then there coincidentally happened to be another guy filming from another angle, so fans have made a multi-cam edit from both sources. 

There’s not much Green Day can really do with amateur footage, there are too many legal complications with ownership and compensation that it’s not really worth it for the band when they have so much of their own material they can release instead without complication. The 2,000 Light Years Away music video was made up of clips of shows that they collected for the Turn It Around documentary. There were contracts with every party that contributed footage, and the agreement was that only short clips would be used. That is why some of those videos haven’t been released in their entirety. I know that some of the tapers wanted large sums of money to use their footage and would not negotiate, so the crew actually had to turn away some of the people who were coming forward with recordings. 

[Beerjeezus]

2 hours ago, BillieMyLove said:

I'm trying to make Jeremy feel better and encourage him to come back LOL. I am also trying to figure out what is going on here LOL.

Don’t worry, I was just joking

[pacejunkie punk]

I would love the release of the full pro shots of the shows we know were filmed from 2011 and 2012 like Echoplex, Webster Hall and Irving Plaza. They have so much sitting in the vault that they own.

[trambopoline]

15 minutes ago, Todd said:

Pinole is not really proshot. It was just an amateur guy with a nice camera, and then there coincidentally happened to be another guy filming from another angle, so fans have made a multi-cam edit from both sources. 

oh wow, didn't know that about pinole, thanks!

is there any other 90s proshot stuff out there we know of? Also, something that just occurred to me: did we even know prauge was filmed as opposed to just audio recorded prior to the footage being released a couple months ago??

1 minute ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I would love the release of the full pro shots of the shows we know were filmed from 2011 and 2012 like Echoplex, Webster Hall and Irving Plaza. They have so much sitting in the vault that they own.

and yeah, I didn't even think about all the other, more recent shows they must have too. fuck. I'd love to see them do something like the Fugazi Live Series, but I doubt we'll ever get that

[SmoothedOut]

1 hour ago, Herroon said:

It feels to me like there was plenty of documentation, but the band just didn't want to release it for whatever reason.

I mean, sure there was documentation but I just wonder what their general attitude towards that kind of thing was as a band as the 90s went on? 🤔 And could that be the reason why they’re not so keen on that era? Could it be that they don’t know that the footage exists? O_o

MTV was behind Jaded, Woodstock was behind Woodstock. It was other parties

29 minutes ago, Herroon said:

I'd love to see them do something like the Fugazi Live Series, but I doubt we'll ever get that

Yess this I want to see as well! This is what I mean. Surely Green Day wasn’t any more punk than Nirvana or Fugazi were- Who had great footage of themselves released ages ago, right? 🤔😓

[greendepent]

1 hour ago, Herroon said:

oh wow, didn't know that about pinole, thanks!

is there any other 90s proshot stuff out there we know of? Also, something that just occurred to me: did we even know prauge was filmed as opposed to just audio recorded prior to the footage being released a couple months ago??

and yeah, I didn't even think about all the other, more recent shows they must have too. fuck. I'd love to see them do something like the Fugazi Live Series, but I doubt we'll ever get that

Yeah, a lot of us knew about the Prague video long time ago. There are even some news in their official site that hinted the video release but it got scrapped due the band working on Nimrod so fast after coming back, but we only saw the first snippet on Broadway Idiot. They had a lot of homemade recordings of their shows made by their crew, like the Astoria 98 show, that appears on the Last Ride In video but real professional stuff is low. You got some Lollapalloza 94 stuff, the Edgefest 98 and then other TV stuff. But mostly single camera recordings, nothing too great or complete to see.

EDIT: I forgot that MTV filmed a show in Sweden in 95, that's where the Stuck with Me live video comes from. I don't think you make a setup for only one song, so probably there is a lot more if it, unknown to me if it is complete, but it is highly probable it is

[Beerjeezus]

52 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I would love the release of the full pro shots of the shows we know were filmed from 2011 and 2012 like Echoplex, Webster Hall and Irving Plaza. They have so much sitting in the vault that they own.

All those trilogy songs that haven’t been played live since... I doubt they’re likely to release these, but I’d prefer it over new footage of less rare songs.

[SmoothedOut]

3 hours ago, Herroon said:

Someone else in here said something about how we have a bunch of great HQ proshot videos of Nirvana, but hardly any released of Green Day. I think the Prauge release/this stuff surfacing tells us they always had the same kind of HQ proshot stuff, but just never bothered to put it out because there was always other new stuff coming from Green Day.

LMAO. I think this was me again! I keep bringing up Nirvana. I didn’t realise you already answered my later question here 😂

But ultimately I agree, they probably did have all those pro-shots & for whatever reason chose not do anything with them

Not like they needed to anyway. I mean we’re talking about a band that had it in them to completely rebuild themselves in the 2000s. 😂

[Gwen Stacy]

1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I would love the release of the full pro shots of the shows we know were filmed from 2011 and 2012 like Echoplex, Webster Hall and Irving Plaza. They have so much sitting in the vault that they own.

When I met Mike I told him they should release a live album of the Red 7 secret show and he said he’d ask the other guys about it. Which I think was his way of politely saying fuck off lol. So I asked, but I don’t think they’re going for it. Which is a shame because those shows were really something special. 

[pacejunkie punk]

10 minutes ago, Gwen Stacy said:

When I met Mike I told him they should release a live album of the Red 7 secret show and he said he’d ask the other guys about it. Which I think was his way of politely saying fuck off lol. So I asked, but I don’t think they’re going for it. Which is a shame because those shows were really something special. 

It’s cool that you asked though. Any chance to remind them that fans loved those shows and those songs is a good thing.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

Don’t worry, I was just joking

I figured as much; I was too.  

[trambopoline]

51 minutes ago, greendepent said:

EDIT: I forgot that MTV filmed a show in Sweden in 95, that's where the Stuck with Me live video comes from. I don't think you make a setup for only one song, so probably there is a lot more if it, unknown to me if it is complete, but it is highly probable it is

I had no idea about that Sweden show! I found an audience recording and you can see some camera folks in the security gap for the first few songs up through Stuck With Me. I couldn't see em anytime after that, so maybe they were just filming for that song/a couple songs.

Something it reminded me of tho was the WTP video- that was filmed at Slim's in SF on the dookie tour, right? I wonder if they only filmed enough for the music video for that too or if the whole show got taped. The inclusion of the burning SPIN magazine makes me think more might've gotten filmed

[lilshootdawg]

22 minutes ago, Herroon said:

I had no idea about that Sweden show! I found an audience recording and you can see some camera folks in the security gap for the first few songs up through Stuck With Me. I couldn't see em anytime after that, so maybe they were just filming for that song/a couple songs.

Something it reminded me of tho was the WTP video- that was filmed at Slim's in SF on the dookie tour, right? I wonder if they only filmed enough for the music video for that too or if the whole show got taped. The inclusion of the burning SPIN magazine makes me think more might've gotten filmed

Slim's also got taped atleast two other songs, Knowledge and Paper Lanterns ex: (timstamped) Not on film though, but tape. I would assume also part's of other songs on film as there's clearly parts that aren't WtP because music video logic.

 

[WhiteTim]

3 hours ago, Gwen Stacy said:

I actually think that’s the story people are missing here. What does Warner/Green Day have to gain at this point by sitting on this stuff? Why is it left to fans to release it? I hate to say it but it’s not like the market for it is going to get bigger as time goes on. I would love to pay for some sort of official version of Jaded uncut but I can’t.

I’m sure part of this is Green Day wanting to look forward and not back as a band but it’s not a bad time to be doing some legacy moves. But so far they seem to have an aversion to anniversary or special releases. Although the new Insomniac vinyl re-issue is maybe a sign this is starting to change. 

well for Jaded it probably comes down to rights MTV owns Jaded since they filmed it perhaps Warner doesn't feel the want to pay for the use GD does have tons of footage they could easily release if they wanted to 

[Montclare]

3 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I would love the release of the full pro shots of the shows we know were filmed from 2011 and 2012 like Echoplex, Webster Hall and Irving Plaza. They have so much sitting in the vault that they own.

Or the Foxies show (London I think) that they filmed and said they watched but never released.  And would love it if it turned out they had filmed one of Billie's Broadway shows.

[jengd]

21 minutes ago, Montclare said:

Or the Foxies show (London I think) that they filmed and said they watched but never released.  And would love it if it turned out they had filmed one of Billie's Broadway shows.

Yes to both of those.  I cannot get over there being almost nothing of Billie on Broadway.  I know there is some fan shot stuff but most of it is poor.

[Freezing Melons]

20 minutes ago, Montclare said:

Or the Foxies show (London I think) that they filmed and said they watched but never released.  And would love it if it turned out they had filmed one of Billie's Broadway shows.

I'm sure they must have - especially with the original cast around. If not at least a combination of a show / rehearsal.

Then again I know it's fairly expensive to film a musical or play - all the actors get paid a ton extra for appearing on camera...but that musical did fairly well (especially when Billie was in it...at least the show I saw was definitely sold out). I'm sure they would have it somewhere.

[Clockwise]

Full pro-shot Irving Plaza is my dream. 

[Todd]

13 minutes ago, Clockwise said:

Full pro-shot Irving Plaza is my dream. 

I'm sure you mean Irving Plaza 2012; Irving Plaza 1994 and 2004 weren't nearly as awesome. Although I don't think the band would ever release a full video of the 2012 show, they'd have to edit out Billie puking on stage 

[Clockwise]

1 minute ago, Todd said:

I'm sure you mean Irving Plaza 2012; Irving Plaza 1994 and 2004 weren't nearly as awesome. Although I don't think the band would ever release a full video of the 2012 show, they'd have to edit out Billie puking on stage

Ha! Yes, 2012. I was there and it remains one of the best shows I've ever been to. But yeah, there are a few reasons we probably will never get the full thing.