jengd Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I completely agree. @Slave To The Network. I think they have set such a high standard and are generally so consistent that when they are below par, it feels worse to us than it probably is to most casual watchers. I don’t think this was that bad a performance but it wasn’t their best. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: I don't remember reading anyone one saying these things or that the band doesn't care. Personally, it just makes me a little sad because I really care about them and it seemed like Billie was fumbling things a lot more than just making one mistake here or there. Usually I'm one of those people who thinks a performance is great when a lot of others are complaining about tiny details like how Billie didn't hit a note just right or something. This was a little different, though. At least to me. I was not disappointed with the performance, just concerned. I really do hope he was just having an off day and that everything's okay with him. That would be the best scenario. I just get scared that he's slowing down and doesn't have the memory he used to or that something else is going on when there's a performance like this. He's only going to be 49 so he's honestly still pretty young, but the years do catch up to you at some point I suppose and he does have a super physically and mentally taxing job. Now that I think about it, it's actually incredibly impressive how much energy and athleticism all of them DO still have after over 30 years of doing this. I certainly couldn't even come close to that kind of stamina. At the same time, seeing how amazingly well they perform on a consistent basis makes times when they're not doing so hot. Especially when it's an uncharacteristically large number of mistakes in a relatively short set. Okay, I'm done now. I realize I did go into some super over-analysis here, but I just needed to get that out. I love what you said here. I like that you approached this from the standpoint of concern for their well-being. I just don't think we can judge whether they are "slowing down" from one performance. I know it is weird because this was really the last show we saw from them before covid shut everything down. We don't know what they would have looked and sounded like on tour. Hopefully we will get to find out pretty soon. I guess I just felt like some people (not you) were reading way too much into one sorta subpar show and acting affronted by it. I personally am hopeful for and really looking forward to them getting back out there when things get better; I think they are going to crush it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/2/2021 at 9:08 PM, Yosuke Hanamura said: I completely agree. Nobody should spread rumors about the very real and personal issues of others, since It could make an already stressful situation all the worse. What I meant to say was that there should be no problem to say something along the lines of “I hope everything is okay”. Hoping everything ok is fine but having a thread for that won't just result in post after post that says "I hope everything is ok", it inevitably invites speculation and debate. That's why we don't allow that type of thread. Closing it had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with you or with any of the replies, threads for discussing the band members' personal lives simply aren't allowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaREMIX Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Get comfortable with the trajectory of even the most successful rock bands, kids; we're 30+ years into this thing and there's not nearly as much to read into things as we might think. Slightly subar performance? Maybe. Drug-induced relapse into the abyss? Not likely. These are middle-aged dudes that are likely more stable and situated then even they want you to believe. They were offered a pre-recorded slot on an already contrived and thrown together NYE production. They accepted, had their people whip up a promotional tweet and more than likely have given it less than 2 shits of thought since. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, ryan1039 said: Get comfortable with the trajectory of even the most successful rock bands, kids; we're 30+ years into this thing and there's not nearly as much to read into things as we might think. Slightly subar performance? Maybe. Drug-induced relapse into the abyss? Not likely. These are middle-aged dudes that are likely more stable and situated then even they want you to believe. They were offered a pre-recorded slot on an already contrived and thrown together NYE production. They accepted, had their people whip up a promotional tweet and more than likely have given it less than 2 shits of thought since. Completely agreed. I think people are reading way too much into one mildly disappointing performance, and as far as New Year's Eve, we all knew it could well be a re-airing of an old performance. They probably hyped it too much, but hey, that's Fox LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 42 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: Completely agreed. I think people are reading way too much into one mildly disappointing performance, and as far as New Year's Eve, we all knew it could well be a re-airing of an old performance. They probably hyped it too much, but hey, that's Fox LOL. That was a shitty performance, period. I'm pretty sure Green Day was (or still) on drugs. And I don't care. Rock star should be on coke all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedtoMikeDirnt Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: That was a shitty performance, period. I'm pretty sure Green Day was (or still) on drugs. And I don't care. Rock star should be on coke all the time. You had me in the first half. I do think that’s a shitty performance. I don’t even think it could be blamed on drugs or alcohol. It’s like Billie just hates the album. Every single thing they’ve played that damn song, it’s like he wanted it to end before it started. I strongly disagree with the last sentence. That’s a trend that needs to end. Substance abuse and addiction aren’t cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 hours ago, ryan1039 said: Get comfortable with the trajectory of even the most successful rock bands, kids; we're 30+ years into this thing and there's not nearly as much to read into things as we might think. Slightly subar performance? Maybe. Drug-induced relapse into the abyss? Not likely. These are middle-aged dudes that are likely more stable and situated then even they want you to believe. They were offered a pre-recorded slot on an already contrived and thrown together NYE production. They accepted, had their people whip up a promotional tweet and more than likely have given it less than 2 shits of thought since. Very stable indeed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaREMIX Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: Very stable indeed Almost 10 years ago. My comment is in context of present day and not reading too much into a pre-recorded, slightly mediocre performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 hours ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said: I strongly disagree with the last sentence. That’s a trend that needs to end. Substance abuse and addiction aren’t cool. Some are cool. I don't care about rock star doing drugs as long as their music is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 ...why are we still talking about this? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 This isn't the "it is cool when rockstars are on drugs?" thread and drugs have literally nothing to do with the topic. Let's not start the grabbing the chance to speculate about Billie's personal life every time he does a performance or something else someone doesn't like again. On topic posts only from here please. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hermione said: This isn't the "it is cool when rockstars are on drugs?" thread Can we create this thread then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: Can we create this thread then? An edgy spam thread? There's no way that could go wrong, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: An edgy spam thread? There's no way that could go wrong, right? Can't be worst than the Fangirls thread where there is drama every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: Can't be worst than the Fangirls thread where there is drama every week. So, where is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 No . And on topic posts only please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Small Green Day segment is better that no segment at all. Performance wise, in the recent years they were a bit unsure about performing new songs live, and it shows. They have that burden of being a "big band" now and they feel the pressure. Happened with the first performances of Breakdown and RevRad, even at the point they discarded to perform Still Breathing at the very first show of the club tour, just because they felt they weren't ready to do so. For instance, they struggled with that song for quite a while before they got it right. With Oh Yeah is even harder. They don't like to perform with clicks and backing tracks, but it for this song it seems necessary. Same with the only performance of Fire, Ready, Aim. Is a risk they decided to take when they decided to perform those tracks. Father of All is different because they can't replicate it live without "external" help like they did with all the records before. So, it could be a poor performance, but all the factors in consideration is quite good. Not to mention they were performing the songs straight to TV, without any other live practice aka small club shows so embrace the songs better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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