Popular Post AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 I honestly didn’t think the performance was bad after seeing it for the first time. I don’t think casual fans or the average, everyday person will be analyzing the level of energy compared to their other shows and writing them off after seeing something like it. That’s really what these kind of opportunities are for ahead of what was supposed to be a new album promotion cycle. I actually said “Wow, this is what GDC was flipping out about?” because I remember y’all made it sound like their career was coming to an end after that show. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 I hate to say that but it just seemed to me something was off with Billie. He wrote these songs, recorded them and then he just didn't seem interested in playing them live. What's up with that? I mean, I don't want to perform any armchair psychology, but you can tell when he's into it and the shows have a much more wholesome vibe when he is. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Grohl Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: I honestly didn’t think the performance was bad after seeing it for the first time. I don’t think casual fans or the average, everyday person will be analyzing the level of energy compared to their other shows and writing them off after seeing something like it. That’s really what these kind of opportunities are for ahead of what was supposed to be a new album promotion cycle. I actually said “Wow, this is what GDC was flipping out about?” because I remember y’all made it sound like their career was coming to an end after that show. I agree. I didn't think the performance was awful then and I still don't think it's bad. It's fine. I still think there was potential for them to get better at songs like Oh Yeah live. Every time they played it, it got better. Honestly the performance was fun to see - a bit bittersweet because it's before everything went to shit. But I just wish Fox was upfront that it was old. On a side note my friend said Billie looks amazing and I couldn't agree with her more 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 This means the Father of All Era is still going! OH YEAH! OH YEAH! OH YEAH! Give me another Hockey video, an animated video and maybe a crossover video with the Network and THEN we can stick a fork in the FOAM ERA. Wait. All of that, but rolled into one video. Animated Hockey Game: Masks VS Skins. The winner will have to release their latest music earlier than planned and.......the loser will too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 zero indication that they will never play any other songs from FOAM live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelongshot Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Yes very disappointing. i blame Fox for overhyping. A video message from the band would have been lovely - surely Fox could have arranged this. Never mind, we can look forward to more material and hopefully some live shows in 2021. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 11 hours ago, The Grohl said: I agree. I didn't think the performance was awful then and I still don't think it's bad. It's fine. I still think there was potential for them to get better at songs like Oh Yeah live. Every time they played it, it got better. Honestly the performance was fun to see - a bit bittersweet because it's before everything went to shit. But I just wish Fox was upfront that it was old. On a side note my friend said Billie looks amazing and I couldn't agree with her more I agree 100% — it was completely misleading advertising. He did look damn near perfect. He better get that hair cut and dyed before the next tour. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: I agree 100% — it was completely misleading advertising. He did look damn near perfect. He better get that hair cut and dyed before the next tour. As much as I love his current frizzy bleached mop, I am starting to miss the classic black hair. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 The way that Fox was trolling the fans on Twitter, mocking them for liking the band, and then running their clip in the last few minutes of the show adding “time permitting” to the teaser to me is incredibly disrespectful of a legendary hall of fame band. If I were Green Day’s management I’d be furious at Fox and they’d never appear on their shitty NYE show again. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jengd Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Yosuke Hanamura said: It’s very obvious why it was done. They had to complete against “Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve”, the one end of year party that nearly every household across the country tunes into, regardless if people are actually watching, or just have it on for background noise. We may not like all the acts there, but they sure as hell know how to get the party vibe going on, which made it all the more special (at least for me) when Green Day finally made it on. Oh I know why it was done, in a cynical attempt to stir up excitement for something and deliberately not admit that it was neither live or new. What they are competing with is immaterial though, they should have to advertise honestly! sports fans would not put up with this sort of misleading information so no wonder GD fans were mad and then for Fox to take that attitude in that Tweet is just unprofessional and snide! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: The way that Fox was trolling the fans on Twitter, mocking them for liking the band, and then running their clip in the last few minutes of the show adding “time permitting” to the teaser to me is incredibly disrespectful of a legendary hall of fame band. If I were Green Day’s management I’d be furious at Fox and they’d never appear on their shitty NYE show again. I mean, it's Fox--you know, the network whose sole reason for existence in this world is fellating Donald Trump. Does anybody here honestly think they would respect Green Day? I wouldn't be surprised if this has something to do with his statements about Trump or even the Ivankkka song (maybe less on the latter since it is somewhat underground). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, BillieMyLove said: I mean, it's Fox--you know, the network whose sole reason for existence in this world is fellating Donald Trump. Does anybody here honestly think they would respect Green Day? I wouldn't be surprised if this has something to do with his statements about Trump or even the Ivankkka song (maybe less on the latter since it is somewhat underground). I don’t think it’s personal, I think it’s just their standard practice of shoddy behaviour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 hours ago, jengd said: I don’t think it’s personal, I think it’s just their standard practice of shoddy behaviour. I agree, everything they do is disgusting. But it is just particularly hard to get one's mind around why a network like Fox would choose a band like Green Day. Is there some kind of relationship between iHeart and Fox? I haven't been able to find anything on it, but it seems there would have to be for them to show iHeart performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I mean, it's Fox--you know, the network whose sole reason for existence in this world is fellating Donald Trump. Does anybody here honestly think they would respect Green Day? I wouldn't be surprised if this has something to do with his statements about Trump or even the Ivankkka song (maybe less on the latter since it is somewhat underground). Fox the network is not the same as Fox News on cable. I mean yeah the same Fox but Fox TV programming is not right wing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: It was sloppy and they didn’t seem into it. When they’re not into it the audience can tell and give no energy back. It was like a low energy feedback loop. Billie screwed up the lyrics to almost half the songs in the set. Even during the interview it seemed like they just didn’t want to be there and couldn’t wait to get out. The whole FOAM promotion period seemed like this to me with the exception of maybe Whiskey A GoGo and Spain where they seemed to be enjoying themselves. Every other promotional performance came off like a chore. But this one was the worst. A record release party where you play the same two singles that had been out for months and nothing from the new album? And a cover of Dancing With Myself sung by Jason and half the “lyrics” mumbled and fudged by Billie? This isn’t The Coverups. It’s like they didn’t care. I actually wanted to hear the new songs. Remember the RevRad record release show where they actually played the new songs and interacted with the crowd? Not here. And to punctuate the evening, they left the event and went straight to a closed club where they played a private event for their friends and family that was the fun high energy show they couldn’t be bothered to do for their fans. From the clips they seemed to be having a blast. That was the real record release party. And yes, like @Beerjeezus said after this I was concerned for the tour. My prediction is you will never hear any other songs from FOAM live. If they couldn’t be bothered to learn them for the record release party weeks before the tour was set to begin, they had no intention of playing them. Billie attempted an impromptu Graffitia during lockdown and already he forgot how it went and made a mess of it. He never learned it to play live. I guess it just didn't come across that bad to me. Sure, it lacked their crazy usual energy, but if this were any other band I doubt we would be having this conversation. And I honestly don't remember that many screw-ups. As others have suggested here, it does seem that maybe their hearts aren't really in FOAM. Maybe it had something to do with beefing with Warner or that they didn't feel that they could do the album the way they wanted to. Maybe there was tension between the desire to comment on the awful things happening in the world and being so disgusted by it that they took a "fuck it" attitude for the album. Looking at some of the songs on MM2020 II, like Art of the Deal with the Devil, it is obvious that they have some very deep things to say that they held back on FOAM. Or who knows, there could be difficult things going on in their personal lives. Everyone goes through good and bad times. The crowd did suck, and it is impossible to determine the causality: maybe the crowd sucked because the band's energy was low, or maybe the band's energy was low because they weren't getting any from the crowd. Maybe the private show after was better because they were performing songs they liked better or because they were around a a more enthusiastic audience. We will probably never know the answers to any of this. The point is that the tried something new with FOAM, maybe it didn't come out the best but that's life, and maybe now they will go make a better album that they themselves enjoy more; I am hopeful about this because it seems they have been writing in quarantine. It's fine if you didn't like the performance and criticizing it is fair, but trying to get into their heads and assuming they don't care about the fans or the music just seems like a bridge too far. 45 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Fox the network is not the same as Fox News on cable. I mean yeah the same Fox but Fox TV programming is not right wing I am aware of the difference, but yeah, since it is the same overarching corporation, I still wouldn't be surprised in these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Fox the network is not the same as Fox News on cable. I mean yeah the same Fox but Fox TV programming is not right wing Thank you. I thought this was common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 45 minutes ago, Q-Man said: Thank you. I thought this was common knowledge. Probably for our US cousins, but forum members come from all over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Q-Man said: Thank you. I thought this was common knowledge. I mean, I am in the U.S. and I definitely know this LOL. But it is still the same corporation, and in all honesty I don't really love Fox Network's programming either. I am not much of a TV person anyway but their stuff always seemed really dumb to me. I think this whole thing last night just kinda further shows how shitty they are LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Oh, that's a real shame. It's not even a very good performance. I always cringe when I watch this set. Billie just seems off here. He's often not in time and keeps messing up lyrics. I thought it might have something to do with partaking a little too much beforehand, but he seems very sharp and cognizant during the interview literally right before playing so I don't know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: Oh, that's a real shame. It's not even a very good performance. I always cringe when I watch this set. Billie just seems off here. He's often not in time and keeps messing up lyrics. I thought it might have something to do with partaking a little too much beforehand, but he seems very sharp and cognizant during the interview literally right before playing so I don't know. I'd say that would be the better option (easier to fix) rather than if he was getting sloppier due to age or becoming tired more easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Has anybody considered the fact that maybe he just had an off day? I think people are reading way too much into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: Has anybody considered the fact that maybe he just had an off day? I think people are reading way too much into this. It's clearly what happen. It's very common for GDC to read way too much into this. I am sure they will forget when we get their next live performance whenever that is. Artists can have off days, too much to drink, whatever. He can forget lyrics, he is human! The only thing they did wrong here was choosing Oh Yeah. People are too sensitive for how Fox mentioned Green Day, who the fuck cares, let Green Day get offended, not the fans. They should of just left them off the show tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Eric said: It's clearly what happen. It's very common for GDC to read way too much into this. I am sure they will forget when we get their next live performance whenever that is. Artists can have off days, too much to drink, whatever. He can forget lyrics, he is human! The only thing they did wrong here was choosing Oh Yeah. People are too sensitive for how Fox mentioned Green Day, who the fuck cares, let Green Day get offended, not the fans. They should of just left them off the show tbh Billie could sing some out of tune gibberish just like he did here and you'd say it sounded okay. You really should try to listen to something else to get a perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Kevin mentioned in his story he thought it was a great performance 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Kevin's mention of it in his story was so cute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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