The Network is back!

[The Grohl]

I don't think Are You Listening is Panicland. Still, it doesn't sound like Billie to me. At this point I would hope Panicland would focus on their own music. They're not bad and it would suck if they just got relegated as that band that fooled the Green Day fan base, which is still pretty impressive.

[green day is]

9 hours ago, The Grohl said:

which is still pretty impressive.

Non-musicians/amateur musicians don't understand that mimicking an artist's style in such a compelling and accurate way, while not copying elements directly ofc, takes a lot more talent than writing in "your own style". There is no straightforward formula you can just derive from looking at GD's songs and then use that to "lazily" make your own like people think, music doesn't work that way at all. I don't think any art works that way. Even if you brute force analyzed every GD song to lay out the raw data of their tendencies in form, meter, rhyme scheme, chord progression, rhythm, voice leading, melody, etc. you would still not have any information that would let you write a song like Rome Falls or Average Working Man without whatever unique artistic spark Panicland/Braedon happens to have.

Writing in your own style is the default. It's just what happens when you write, that's what makes it yours. Yes there's studying and work involved, but it all goes through your own filter to give it the je ne sais quoi that we call your style, it doesn't create the style in and of itself. Writing in someone else's takes extra effort, in an immaterial and hard to conceptualize way, and doing it well is a genuinely difficult exercise. People use the word "copy" as if it's inherently derogatory but the fact is that "style" simply isn't something you can copy lazily.

[That Dude]

Remember when Love for Love and Pinhead Gunpowder were the only side projects we had to keep track of?

Well....

Gotta stay on topic so I think Little Billie was Fink and Pinhead Gunpowder are possibly the Rodeo Queens, who are The Longshot in disguise as Green Day, who are really Sweet Children posing as Dead Mermaids.  

The Foxboro Hot Tubs though.  They recorded Dos and Tre and then vanished into outer space with the masters to The Networks album, Father of Nimrods.

20 minutes ago, green day is said:

Non-musicians/amateur musicians don't understand that mimicking an artist's style in such a compelling and accurate way, while not copying elements directly ofc, takes a lot more talent than writing in "your own style". There is no straightforward formula you can just derive from looking at GD's songs and then use that to "lazily" make your own like people think, music doesn't work that way at all. I don't think any art works that way. Even if you brute force analyzed every GD song to lay out the raw data of their tendencies in form, meter, rhyme scheme, chord progression, rhythm, voice leading, melody, etc. you would still not have any information that would let you write a song like Rome Falls or Average Working Man without whatever unique artistic spark Panicland/Braedon happens to have.

Writing in your own style is the default. It's just what happens when you write, that's what makes it yours. Writing in someone else's takes extra effort, and doing it well is a genuinely difficult exercise. People use the word "copy" as if it's inherently derogatory but the fact is that "style" simply isn't something you can copy lazily.

This is true.  I tried to record Magnum Opus on my own and it sounded like me. Which is bad singing,bad guitar work and random sounds in place of drums because me no drummer good.

Am I winning any days on here?  Feels like I should be winning the day. 🤪

[Tomcat20]

If TUT wasn't real - why was it released two months ago in the first place? Given the comeback of The Network it fits pretty well in the shedule.

[PursuitOfEpicness]

18 minutes ago, That Dude said:

Remember when Love for Love and Pinhead Gunpowder were the only side projects we had to keep track of?

 

i miss Pinhead Gunpowder, it's probably one of my favorites. Also, what's Love for Love?

[Little Boy Named Booze]

2 minutes ago, PursuitOfEpicness said:

i miss Pinhead Gunpowder, it's probably one of my favorites. Also, what's Love for Love?

I think he meant Look for Love

[pacejunkie punk]

4 minutes ago, Tomcat20 said:

If TUT wasn't real - why was it released two months ago in the first place? Given the comeback of The Network it fits pretty well in the shedule.

Not only that but going back to the copyright claim, it’s possible it took a while initially but once the channel got on Warner legal’s radar (which would have to have been manual) that it was then being closely watched which would explain why the subsequent clips or leaks were flagged for copyright so much more quickly. The fact that other channels that have tried to upload TUT have also been flagged for copyright supports the argument that the claims are legit and the song is real.

[trambopoline]

hell yeah we've broken page 90 baybeee

 

this thread rocks

[Little Boy Named Booze]

4 minutes ago, Herroon said:

hell yeah we've broken page 90 baybeee

 

this thread rocks

You're welcome.

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

3 hours ago, Flashback said:

Hopefully, but I'm quite optimistic that they recorded at least some demos sind the lockdowns.

Back in the beginning of all this mess, Billie did an interview in which he admitted that he had been working on some new songs (said with a knowing grin, of course).

[pacejunkie punk]

4 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Back in the beginning of all this mess, Billie did an interview in which he admitted that he had been working on some new songs (said with a knowing grin, of course).

I do think the more typical sounding and topical Network stuff was written recently, but TUT could have been a leftover from the FOAM sessions or just an earlier song in general

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

Just now, pacejunkie punk said:

I do think the more typical sounding and topical Network stuff was written recently, but TUT could have been a leftover from the FOAM sessions or just an earlier song in general

That's what I think. TUT has all the makings of a good Green Day song, and it kinda goes along with the album's theme. And it makes sense with all the hints he's dropped earlier. 

[pacejunkie punk]

7 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

That's what I think. TUT has all the makings of a good Green Day song, and it kinda goes along with the album's theme. And it makes sense with all the hints he's dropped earlier. 

And the voice sample in the bridge about “dark shadows...” etc. was likely a later add on to make the song fit more as a Network song.  The song works with or without it.

[navouxodonosoras]

15 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I do think the more typical sounding and topical Network stuff was written recently, but TUT could have been a leftover from the FOAM sessions or just an earlier song in general

I  think that the structure and duration of the song "TUT" is not what Billie is aiming at, through his songwriting, at the moment. He has written already many songs of that type through all the GD's career, but he seems not to prefer them anymore, according to an interview of him. "Ivankkka is a Nazi" is at the opposite direction, too : It's totally minimal, except the intro. So, i think that he still keeps his preference, and this song is the type of the song he wouldn't write or release at the present time.

Edited November 5, 2020 by navouxodonosoras

[pacejunkie punk]

I wonder if his Now I Want to Drink Some Bleach for the birthday special inspired him to write Ivankkka is a Nazi. He’s always posting Ramones clips and loves their style.

[Tubbie Head]

2 hours ago, The Grohl said:

I don't think Are You Listening is Panicland. Still, it doesn't sound like Billie to me. At this point I would hope Panicland would focus on their own music. They're not bad and it would suck if they just got relegated as that band that fooled the Green Day fan base, which is still pretty impressive.

It sounds exactly like Billie to me, but some parts also sound like Panicland (I mean MOOTIK).

I'm pretty sure that if they really did this (which in my opinion is more than likely) they did it for fun, just like last time.

They couldn't seriously expect to get a lot of fame from this, as it's mostly just a small minority of GD fans that even know about it..

I personally love it and really appreciate them for using their deep knowledge of the GD sound and impressive talents of impressionation/ song writing to have some fun and create hilarious situations like this. I say keep it up guys!! 

 

All Hail Panicland

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

I think someone's watching this thread. There's a mole(s) among us. That's why the song yesterday got taken down like ten minutes after someone posted the link here. Say that all the songs on the youtube account "The Church" are fake. The faker's watching us.

And then there's a mole for Green Day The Network. That's just obvious.

 

 

 

All hail Panicland

[trambopoline]

15 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

I think someone's watching this thread. There's a mole(s) among us. That's why the song yesterday got taken down like ten minutes after someone posted the link here. Say that all the songs on the youtube account "The Church" are fake. The faker's watching us.

And then there's a mole for Green Day The Network. That's just obvious.

 

 

 

All hail Panicland

I've assumed from the jump there's a mole lurking in this thread. Hell, there was the Blake Darko user that changed their display name to @2020pt2 once I mentioned they were viewing the thread. Like I said previously, I assume whomever that is got wise and made a new account with a less conspicuous name.

[DookieLukie]

1 hour ago, green day is said:

Non-musicians/amateur musicians don't understand that mimicking an artist's style in such a compelling and accurate way, while not copying elements directly ofc, takes a lot more talent than writing in "your own style". There is no straightforward formula you can just derive from looking at GD's songs and then use that to "lazily" make your own like people think, music doesn't work that way at all. I don't think any art works that way. Even if you brute force analyzed every GD song to lay out the raw data of their tendencies in form, meter, rhyme scheme, chord progression, rhythm, voice leading, melody, etc. you would still not have any information that would let you write a song like Rome Falls or Average Working Man without whatever unique artistic spark Panicland/Braedon happens to have.

Writing in your own style is the default. It's just what happens when you write, that's what makes it yours. Yes there's studying and work involved, but it all goes through your own filter to give it the je ne sais quoi that we call your style. Writing in someone else's takes extra effort, in an immaterial and hard to conceptualize way, and doing it well is a genuinely difficult exercise. People use the word "copy" as if it's inherently derogatory but the fact is that "style" simply isn't something you can copy lazily.

Thanks for saying this. That's why so many GD covers bands and bands inspired by Green Day sound like dollar store Green Day. GD has a unique style and it's hard to copy that. 

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

Just now, Herroon said:

Like I said previously, I assume whomever that is got wise and made a new account with a less conspicuous name.

Yeah, and they don't join in the conversation. 

[Tubbie Head]

10 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Thanks for saying this. That's why so many GD covers bands and bands inspired by Green Day sound like dollar store Green Day. GD has a unique style and it's hard to copy that. 

Agreed, that's why I don't believe anyone else other than Panicland could be behind it. 

There's still a slight chance that it could be GD tho 😂

 

All hail Panicland

Edited November 5, 2020 by Tubbie Head

[Beerjeezus]

You know, full length MOOTIK songs sounded like someone else writing and recording in a style inspired by Green Day (and Rome Falls still turned out to be morw Queen/MCR-esque), but these are uncanny valley. Not quite Green Day (at least Are You Listening isn’t), but not fake-sounding either.

[Tubbie Head]

1 minute ago, Beerjeezus said:

You know, full length MOOTIK songs sounded like someone else writing and recording in a style inspired by Green Day (and Rome Falls still turned out to be morw Queen/MCR-esque), but these are uncanny valley. Not quite Green Day (at least Are You Listening isn’t), but not fake-sounding either.

They probably took the critiques from the MOOTIK discussions and practiced / perfected their impressions to sound even more GD than before. 😂 

 

All hail Panicland

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

i guess it just comes down to opinion then. TUT sounds like Billie at most points, mostly but its definitely not 100%.

The newest one sounds cringy, like there is no way that is billie. It sounds a lot like Panicland lol

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Why would Panicland do that again? Don't they have a BAND to create their OWN music and stop pretending to be someone else? Omg Panicland are loser if it's them again.