The Network is back!

[Flashback]

Since I was so wrong with MOOTIK I don‘t even try to speculate about anything now 😅 I only know that Green Day is definitely not The Network

[Alan86]

6 hours ago, Todd said:

I can't wait to blast "we're right, you're wrong" when the album comes out and the ultimate test isn't on it because it's not a real network song  Some of you guys are really gullible. Still falling for these "leaks" after Panicland showed you up?  If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down. If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the real songs. Those two are unmistakably the network. Nice try with the ultimate test, it sounds good, but it sounds nothing like the real clips we've heard so far. 

Completely agree, still not convinced by it.

[Beerjeezus]

I’ve never been wrong and I’m sure not starting with it now 

[Alan86]

10 hours ago, dudley dawson said:

BJ himself posted it. You’re wrong dude.

The Network only posted 2 songs. Yes Billie posted it but said it was fake, yes he is saying everything is fake but he might just be telling the truth about this one. And it feeds into his narrative of just creating confusion 😂

[Mato]

I still think The Ultimate Test is fake, but The Prophecy and Tarantula are real.

[Beerjeezus]

This is like when people assumed panicland was real because Bill Schneider said it wasn’t but the other way around.

[purplebenny]

9 minutes ago, Mato said:

I still think The Ultimate Test is fake, but The Prophecy and Tarantula are real.

Well we know the prophecy and tarantula are real

 

the church symbol in TUT and Billie Sharing are big hints it is at the very least a green day track

[legendary]

10 minutes ago, Mato said:

I still think The Ultimate Test is fake, but The Prophecy and Tarantula are real.

The Prophecy and Tarantula are obviously real. 

[Alan86]

7 minutes ago, purplebenny said:

Well we know the prophecy and tarantula are real

 

the church symbol in TUT and Billie Sharing are big hints it is at the very least a green day track

You know that symbol can be added by anyone to a video. That doesn’t mean anything.

[PluckyJokerhead]

I'm having a hard time believing Billie would have shared that amount of TUT if it wasn't real. If he was seriously saying it was fake it likely would've just been a screenshot.

[navouxodonosoras]

Just now, PluckyJokerhead said:

I'm having a hard time believing Billie would have shared that amount of TUT if it wasn't real. If he was seriously saying it was fake it likely would've just been a screenshot.

I think that the obvious reason is trolling. The whole fun about The Network from Green Day 's perspective is consciously lying about that project. I think that this is obvious and unproblematic.

[Josh100_3]

I’m more excited about this new network album than the last two Green Day records!

Money Money 2020 is a fantastic fun goofy record!

[Red]

33 minutes ago, Alan86 said:

You know that symbol can be added by anyone to a video. That doesn’t mean anything.

Hasn't the video with the symbol been there for more than a month though? 

Like what are the chances that someone not only faked a song this well, perfectly replicated Billie Joe's voice but ALSO happened to design a fake logo that is EXACTLY the same as the one that has just started being used in official accounts and media. 

I don't get it.. There's so much evidence here that it's not a fake song. It might not be on THIS album, but there is no way it can't be legit. 

[green day is]

3 minutes ago, Red said:

Hasn't the video with the symbol been there for more than a month though? 

Like what are the chances that someone not only faked a song this well, perfectly replicated Billie Joe's voice but ALSO happened to design a fake logo that is EXACTLY the same as the one that has just started being used in official accounts and media. 

I don't get it.. There's so much evidence here that it's not a fake song. It might not be on THIS album, but there is no way it can't be legit. 

That symbol is on the back of SD&R and MM2020

[Josh100_3]

I’ve been listening to Green Day for nearly 20 years. TUT is clearly, at the very least  Billie singing.

[Red]

3 minutes ago, green day is said:

That symbol is on the back of SD&R and MM2020

Ah my bad. I find it still seems pretty sus to me though 😂 like it's from only a month ago and almost perfectly predicted the announcement date, among other things. 

Yeah, I am just gonna set up my tent firmly in the "It's legit" camp and stay there until someone gives me evidence to believe otherwise. 

[CannibalRat]

Why are peope still debating "The Ultimate Test" whether it's real or not? It's obviously them.

1. The video has the Lushotology icon which was the first thing that Billie used to tease us about The Network coming back. Also the video has entirely same distortion effect as "The Prophecy". Considering the fact that the video was uploaded in September, these similarities are hard to see as a coincidence.

2. Bill Schneider has acknowledged the song twice here. First time saying it's "Totally fake..." with a suspicious tone. And the second time replying "it's fake" when someone said that everyone who says the song is fake has to eat their copy of Money Money 2020. Which sounds to me like his just messing with us.

3. Billie Joe shared the song on his Instagram story while simultaneously affirming that they're not The Network. Why would he share some fan made leak which at the time had like 300 views? The clip of the song itself was quite long on his story.

4. Green Day's new management company Crush Music is known for guerilla marketing. They've, for example, purposely "leaked" Weezer songs in the past. 

5. "The Ultimate Test" is a full song that continously sounds just like Green Day and even more so Billie Joe with that The Network distortion effect. Billie Joe has such a distinct voice which is easy to spot. In addition, the production sounds far too expensive and tight to be a fan made leak

6. I get the argument that Panicland had us fooled last year, but they cleverly used short clips that resembled Green Day and our minds filled the gaps. Hell, even the lead singer of Panicland, Braedon Horbacio wrote earlier here that the song sounds extremely legitimate and made a brilliant analysis on why the singer is undoubtedly Billie Joe. In short, it isn't someone trying to sound like Billie by emulating his accent, but the actual tone of the voice is Billie Joe's. 

7. In the chorus during the "My friend is coming home" part, pay attention on how the singer sings the word "friend". The voice starts to break and goes slightly into falsetto at a G into G#. Billie Joe almost never goes higher than a G# unless it’s falsetto.

Edited November 1, 2020 by CannibalRat

[navouxodonosoras]

21 minutes ago, Red said:

Hasn't the video with the symbol been there for more than a month though? 

Like what are the chances that someone not only faked a song this well, perfectly replicated Billie Joe's voice but ALSO happened to design a fake logo that is EXACTLY the same as the one that has just started being used in official accounts and media. 

I don't get it.. There's so much evidence here that it's not a fake song. It might not be on THIS album, but there is no way it can't be legit. 

The logo has been usen in many instances (FBHT and The Network) and it is not original and the voice of Billie is not perfecly replicated since many listeners have doubt about it, which should worry you, even if you are not among them. The timing is strange, maybe there is a chance that the band has some involvement, but it 's only a small chance. Concluding on this ground that this is legit is a msitake that has been made several times, actually almost in every new green day realease there is a snipet or song that has been taken to be legit, while it was not.

To everyone who is 100% sure that Billie is singing, you are not the only members who listen to green day for a long time. Doesn't worry you the fact that there is not unanimous agreement that this is Billie 's vocals? Aren't there any others green day experienced fans who have heard a lot and diverse material from this band?

Edited November 1, 2020 by navouxodonosoras

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

Yeah, it’s all fake, boring. I’m jumping in the release date wild guessing game, bring it on 

[Red]

9 minutes ago, navouxodonosoras said:

To everyone who is 100% sure that Billie is singing, you are not the only members who listen to green day for a long time. Doesn't worry you the fact that there is not unanimous agreement that this is Billie 's vocals?

I can almost guarantee you that there are old school fans out there who refused to believe that the guy singing "Father Of All..." was Billie Joe. 

Just because there isn't a perfect unanimous agreement on the subject, doesn't mean it can't be true. 

[Tomcat20]

Wait, Bill Schneider is on GDC?

[Beerjeezus]

1 minute ago, Tomcat20 said:

Wait, Bill Schneider is on GDC?

He’s foxborohottub

[green day is]

18 minutes ago, navouxodonosoras said:

 

To everyone who is 100% sure that Billie is singing, you are not the only members who listen to green day for a long time. Doesn't worry you the fact that there is not unanimous agreement that this is Billie 's vocals?

No lol. If you've been here long enough you'll know there are people all the time learning new songs Mike sang on, thinking it was Billie. And people argue over who does the yelling in the background at the end of Homecoming. No one here knows anything about what anyone sounds like except Braedon who's a freak of nature and says it's Billie.

Pop quiz: What song on 39/smooth does Mike sing a bit of? Not backing vocals but as a main voice. Click link to answer

[navouxodonosoras]

Just now, Red said:

I can almost guarantee you that there are old school fans out there who refused to believe that the guy singing "Father Of All..." was Billie Joe. 

Just because there isn't a perfect unanimous agreement on the subject of the people doesn't mean it can't be true. 

In the case of "Father of all" I myself have to speculate, because I dont know how I would react having heard the falsetto part, while not knowing this is Billie. In "TUT" who is singing is singing for 4 minutes in normal voice. And if we had the snippet of the falsetto part beforehand in the case of FOAM, not knowing this is Green Day, we would have agreed that this is Billie NOT in the first listen, but after compering it and analysing together with live performances in whitch he sings in high voice. The high voice he uses in live perfomances is the same he uses in studio, obviously, we would hear the same, since there are the same.

Anyway, time we tell, and the only reason this conversation is not to be considered as a waste of time is because it is entertaining. Meaning, I write becasue of entertaimnet and i dont want to sound aggressive. I hope the upcoming Network album rocks!

[Boobooo]

Listen to Roshambo and Teenagers From Mars on MM2020 and you'll get an idea for how Billie distorts his voice and has a slightly lower pitch to usual. This is done on purpose obviously because he's trying to sound like a different band. He does the exact same thing on TUT. I personally don't get why people are struggling to hear his voice in TUT tbh haha. 

Also, why and how would someone fake a track to not sound just like Billie, but Billie's distorted Network voice, and coincide it exactly with the timing of all the Network stuff coming out officially? And not just snippets, a whole track. Even on the Panicland snippets there were moments I really doubted it because the voice seemed to slip too far from Billie's.  This is different. It sounds like him throughout for me. At no point do I ever feel like it's someone impersonating.