The Network is back!

[Montclare]

4 hours ago, Boobooo said:

I think the first part of the bridge is Mike (the bit that starts "Back In Black was our favourite track...") 

But I'm mostly certain that the rest is Billie. Do you not remember how different he sounds in Money Money 2020? He does it on purpose.

One of the jokes with them saying they weren't the Network was that the vocals obviously were Billie.  The only song of his on that album that doesn't sound like him is Teenagers from Mars.  The rest you can easily hear him even if it's not his "normal" voice.  

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

2 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

I don’t know what y’all are talking about - to me TUT sounds like Billie singing without a doubt.

Definitely 

[Todd]

I can't wait to blast "we're right, you're wrong" when the album comes out and the ultimate test isn't on it because it's not a real network song  Some of you guys are really gullible. Still falling for these "leaks" after Panicland showed you up?  If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down. If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the real songs. Those two are unmistakably the network. Nice try with the ultimate test, it sounds good, but it sounds nothing like the real clips we've heard so far. 

[Otis Big]

31 minutes ago, Todd said:

I can't wait to blast "we're right, you're wrong" when the album comes out and the ultimate test isn't on it because it's not a real network song  Some of you guys are really gullible. Still falling for these "leaks" after Panicland showed you up?  If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down. If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the real songs. Those two are unmistakably the network. Nice try with the ultimate test, it sounds good, but it sounds nothing like the real clips we've heard so far. 

Oh yeah?

[pacejunkie punk]

50 minutes ago, Todd said:

I can't wait to blast "we're right, you're wrong" when the album comes out and the ultimate test isn't on it because it's not a real network song  Some of you guys are really gullible. Still falling for these "leaks" after Panicland showed you up?  If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down. If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the real songs. Those two are unmistakably the network. Nice try with the ultimate test, it sounds good, but it sounds nothing like the real clips we've heard so far. 

Et tu, Todd? 😢

[dudley dawson]

52 minutes ago, Todd said:

I can't wait to blast "we're right, you're wrong" when the album comes out and the ultimate test isn't on it because it's not a real network song  Some of you guys are really gullible. Still falling for these "leaks" after Panicland showed you up?  If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down. If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the real songs. Those two are unmistakably the network. Nice try with the ultimate test, it sounds good, but it sounds nothing like the real clips we've heard so far. 

BJ himself posted it. You’re wrong dude.

[green day is]

56 minutes ago, Todd said:

If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down.

Because it's not a "real" leak. They either leaked it themselves, or it got leaked and they decided to go with it because it's fun. And I honestly don't see how "If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the [other] songs" is in any way an objective thing to say. How is that a matter of fact?

Billie's acknowledgment of its existence, in and of itself, proves that it's real. As described here. Big recording artists are not allowed to acknowledge fan works.

[nopride84]

29 minutes ago, green day is said:

Because it's not a "real" leak. They either leaked it themselves, or it got leaked and they decided to go with it because it's fun. And I honestly don't see how "If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the [other] songs" is in any way an objective thing to say. How is that a matter of fact?

Billie's acknowledgment of its existence, in and of itself, proves that it's real. As described here. Big recording artists are not allowed to acknowledge fan works.

why do you keep typing that shit. artists can acknowledge or talk abour any band or music they want wtf they can also say ehen its not theyre somg what kind of fantasy land do you fuckin live in 

[Todd]

32 minutes ago, green day is said:

Because it's not a "real" leak. They either leaked it themselves, or it got leaked and they decided to go with it because it's fun. And I honestly don't see how "If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the [other] songs" is in any way an objective thing to say. How is that a matter of fact?

Billie's acknowledgment of its existence, in and of itself, proves that it's real. As described here. Big recording artists are not allowed to acknowledge fan works.

I get the gist of that rule, but how practical is that? Billie can't listen to any unpublished music? Yeah right. 

36 minutes ago, dudley dawson said:

BJ himself posted it. You’re wrong dude.

That means a whole lot of nothing to me

[Liam]

35 minutes ago, green day is said:

Because it's not a "real" leak. They either leaked it themselves, or it got leaked and they decided to go with it because it's fun. And I honestly don't see how "If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the [other] songs" is in any way an objective thing to say. How is that a matter of fact?

Billie's acknowledgment of its existence, in and of itself, proves that it's real. As described here. Big recording artists are not allowed to acknowledge fan works.

Billie acknowledged Panicland in the instagram stories, so going by your logic, Green Day IS Panicland

On 10/31/2020 at 9:05 AM, Hermione said:

You mean replying to someone saying they think it's fake with "Totally fake...." (note the "...."). Doesn't that seem rather ambiguous?

To me it the ... looks more like "isn't it fucking obvious". I dunno, just makes no sense for him to acknowledge that, but not acknowledge the Prophecy

[green day is]

31 minutes ago, nopride84 said:

why do you keep typing that shit. artists can acknowledge or talk abour any band or music they want wtf they can also say ehen its not theyre somg what kind of fantasy land do you fuckin live in 

Nah. Warner definitely has a clause in their contract not to acknowledge fan works. Try sending their agent a song right now if you don't believe me. You probably won't even get ignored, you're probably guaranteed a stock reply back.

27 minutes ago, Todd said:

I get the gist of that rule, but how practical is that? Billie can't listen to any unpublished music? Yeah right.

Obviously a "fan work" is different from a song they hear on the radio or whatever that has nothing to do with them. Obviously. I shouldn't need to say that but here we are.

And obviously listening is different than acknowledging. Contract probably does stipulate "no listening" but ofc it only matters if you then go on to verify to someone that you did. So re: "how practical is that", yes, it is in fact very practical for an artist to avoid explicitly confirming in writing that they listened to your fan work.

26 minutes ago, Liam said:

Billie acknowledged Panicland in the instagram stories, so going by your logic, Green Day IS Panicland

Willy I know you're smart enough to see the material difference between acknowledging a band's existence and acknowledging the fan work.

(also I can't find evidence that he ever acknowledged them in the wake of mootik, only before then, but since stories disappear i'll give you the benefit of the doubt)

[Hermione]

18 minutes ago, Liam said:

 

To me it the ... looks more like "isn't it fucking obvious". I dunno, just makes no sense for him to acknowledge that, but not acknowledge the Prophecy

Yeah it sounds fake to me but I literally have no idea either way what that answer means now . The whole thing isn't fake though, it's just one song that I find to be on the mediocre side that might be so doesn't make much difference to anything. We'll find out for sure eventually. 

[Liam]

7 minutes ago, green day is said:

Willy

Who the fuck is Willy?

7 minutes ago, green day is said:

(also I can't find evidence that he ever acknowledged them in the wake of mootik, only before then, but since stories disappear i'll give you the benefit of the doubt)

 

[green day is]

2 minutes ago, Liam said:

 

That's not Billie lmao. Good job. No, I'm not saying that everyone who has any association with the band has this stipulation. No one cares if the manager, who never has and never will write music for the band, listens to fan works.

[Liam]

1 minute ago, green day is said:

That's not Billie lmao.

Source?

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

Man, it’s like we’re taking this “Green Day isn’t the Network” joke to another level.  

[green day is]

21 minutes ago, Liam said:

Source?

Oh I get it Billie posted that screencap I thought you were showing me Brian's comments as an acknowledgment lol

Acknowledging that someone else listened to the work is still far away from acknowledging that you did. In deposition for a copyright suit: "Does this comment by your manager show that he listened to the plaintiff's song(s)?" "Our manager may have listened to the songs, but he does not contribute to the band's creative process in any way. No writer or producer listened to the song(s) as per our contract". Different situation than "Did you listen to the song(s) as per your post" "yeah lol".

And since I'm sure it'll come up: yes, multimillion dollar recording artists do in fact receive training and regular counsel on this sort of thing re: what's okay and what's not okay. They don't just do what feels right and let their lawyers sort it out after.

[Red]

14 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Man, it’s like we’re taking this “Green Day isn’t the Network” joke to another level.  

Right!?
I honestly can't tell if people genuinely think TUT is fake or if they are just in on the "Nothing to do with Green Day" troll 😂

[Tomcat20]

Did you already notice that the YouTube uploader („The Church“) removed Green Day from the song title?

[Slave To The Network]

Okay, I don't know why people are shitting on TUT so much. I think it is an amazing song and I have been listening to it on repeat for god knows how long now. Whether or not it's actually Billie (it definitely is his voice and I have no idea how anyone can miss that) and the real Network, I love the song and I'm happy we got it.

[dannygreen]

14 minutes ago, Green Day In Seattle said:

Okay, I don't know why people are shitting on TUT so much. I think it is an amazing song and I have been listening to it on repeat for god knows how long now. Whether or not it's actually Billie (it definitely is his voice and I have no idea how anyone can miss that) and the real Network, I love the song and I'm happy we got it.

I'm already enjoying it more than the whole FOAM except for Graffitia 😁

[jengd]

Wait so @Todd is saying the the prophecy and tarantula are genuine but tut isn’t?  Guess we just have to wait to find out but I love it so hope someone releases it.  How many clips have you heard? 😉

[Beerjeezus]

9 hours ago, Todd said:

I can't wait to blast "we're right, you're wrong" when the album comes out and the ultimate test isn't on it because it's not a real network song  Some of you guys are really gullible. Still falling for these "leaks" after Panicland showed you up?  If it was a real leak, lawyers would have taken it down. If the band wanted to tease us with it, they would have posted it on the instagram like they did the real songs. Those two are unmistakably the network. Nice try with the ultimate test, it sounds good, but it sounds nothing like the real clips we've heard so far. 

Take off your aluminium cap and listen again dude

[Guest]

For fuck's sake is this place really speculating whether The Ultimate Test is real or not now?

I think the argument with Billie himself acknowledging it makes sense that it is real. And I want it to be real, you know? It's so good.

[greendepent]

At least, we can find some fun in this whole post-truth thingy, haha