The Network is back!

[nopride84]

who else thinks governator sounds like it couldve been on money money 2020

[Slave To The Network]

10 hours ago, Paxton said:

I'm convinced almost all of the people here who like "Sound The Alarm" only like it because it was allegedly the Network. It is an awful song. Like a bad outtake from some shitty mid 2000's band like The Bravery or something of that nature.

Nah, still love it. The Bravery sucks. This song is great.

[Paxton]

2 hours ago, TimmyChunks said:

No! Sorry to say. But I’m super happy you catch the reference, he’s an iconic part of Green Day history for sure. 

Bummer! The OG before Jason White. Back when Green Day was a legit 3 piece and not the 8 piece band it's become. Shout out Token Entry, Chuck Valle, and Mikey Bullshit. Great username and thanks for giving me a fleeting moment of hope haha 

[jengd]

1 hour ago, Paxton said:

Bummer! The OG before Jason White. Back when Green Day was a legit 3 piece and not the 8 piece band it's become. Shout out Token Entry, Chuck Valle, and Mikey Bullshit. Great username and thanks for giving me a fleeting moment of hope haha 

8 piece?  

1 hour ago, Paxton said:

Bummer! The OG before Jason White. Back when Green Day was a legit 3 piece and not the 8 piece band it's become. Shout out Token Entry, Chuck Valle, and Mikey Bullshit. Great username and thanks for giving me a fleeting moment of hope haha 

8 piece?  

[Paxton]

13 minutes ago, jengd said:

8 piece?  

8 piece?  

All of the extra musicians on stage...you didn't glean that? The extra vocals, two extra guitar players etc etc...

[jengd]

Never sen more than 6 in GD.  Billie Joe, Mike, Tre, Jason W, Jason F and previously Jeff M now Kevin T-P, who are the other two?

sorry, don’t know why my first comment went in twice.

[Paxton]

2 minutes ago, jengd said:

Never sen more than 6 in GD.  Billie Joe, Mike, Tre, Jason W, Jason F and previously Jeff M now Kevin T-P, who are the other two?

sorry, don’t know why my first comment went in twice.

I may have exaggerated...but when the debate is between 6 and 8, the fact that it is so watered down and contrived becomes negligible.

[greendepent]

11 hours ago, Laly said:

Honestly, all I always knew is who are Billie, Mike and Tré. But I knew Jason and Chris Dugan were involved (just no which member) and I don't know Reto Peter.

Thanks for clarify👍

Reto is an engineer who worked with GD while making American Idiot. He had a recent interview where he revealed how they did the demos of the whole record. And he said that the guys of Green Day are on The Network

But he is also an artificial intelligence who resolves things. We can't say what is true and what is not. But, for some reason, the AI thingy sounds more reasonable.

[jetsrule128]

3 hours ago, Paxton said:

I may have exaggerated...but when the debate is between 6 and 8, the fact that it is so watered down and contrived becomes negligible.

Ronnie Blake and Mike pelino 

[jengd]

Yes, at different times but not all together.

4 hours ago, Paxton said:

I may have exaggerated...but when the debate is between 6 and 8, the fact that it is so watered down and contrived becomes negligible.

what is so watered down and contrived? Not being funny, I don’t know what you mean.

[Hermione]

4 hours ago, Paxton said:

I may have exaggerated...but when the debate is between 6 and 8, the fact that it is so watered down and contrived becomes negligible.

They make a lot of music that's best performed by more than three people now. Thanks to having the extra guys they can have two guitar parts and extra instruments. It allows them more freedom in the music they make/perform and as far as the sound goes it's the opposite of watered down, it beefs it up. If you've seen them live in the last decade and a half you'll know that the extra guys don't detract from Billie Mike and Tre or the way the three interact at all, they mostly just do their thing in the background and when they do get any spotlight (eg Jason Freese having an epic sax/kazoo battle with Billie or the odd time Jason White gets to shine on guitar) it adds to the show. Six people playing music best played by six people is no more "contrived" than three people playing music best played by three people, it's just musicians playing a show. 

[Annie, get your gun]

1 hour ago, greendepent said:

Reto is an engineer who worked with GD while making American Idiot. He had a recent interview where he revealed how they did the demos of the whole record. And he said that the guys of Green Day are on The Network

But he is also an artificial intelligence who resolves things. We can't say what is true and what is not. But, for some reason, the AI thingy sounds more reasonable.

Yeah! I recognize his name from the AI booklet. And also The Network's own song, which I dare to say Van Gough not only sing but also wrote -And wasn't his wife the singer in X-Ray Hambuger? I think I read that somewhere

[pacejunkie punk]

5 hours ago, Paxton said:

I may have exaggerated...but when the debate is between 6 and 8, the fact that it is so watered down and contrived becomes negligible.

Is a symphony orchestra watered down and contrived because of the number of musicians playing individual parts?

Green Day’s music has gotten more complex as they’ve evolved and they deliberately write multiple guitar parts and keyboards to give songs texture and depth, not water them down.  Three chord punk songs only need three players. They’ve branched out quite a bit from that formula since as early as 1997 and need more musicians onstage to recreate the studio sound. I would rather that than have pre-recorded tracks onstage and three players which is what some bands do. At least it’s all live.

[That Dude]

Are the Bravery The Network?   

I know that only The Network is the Network but if The Bravery are The Network, then they could be The Network.  

I think new Fink is Alanis Morissette.  

 

[Jankowski576]

2 hours ago, greendepent said:

Reto is an engineer who worked with GD while making American Idiot. He had a recent interview where he revealed how they did the demos of the whole record. And he said that the guys of Green Day are on The Network

But he is also an artificial intelligence who resolves things. We can't say what is true and what is not. But, for some reason, the AI thingy sounds more reasonable.

Can you send me a link to this interview?? I love hearing about the AI production process

[Squashie]

6 hours ago, Paxton said:

I may have exaggerated...but when the debate is between 6 and 8, the fact that it is so watered down and contrived becomes negligible.

Their past tours (at least since AI) have never had more than 6 on stage:
Tre
Mike
Billie 
Jason White 
Jason Freese 
Jeff Matika
Kevin Preston (replaced Matika)

 

So, apparently it's bad to add more talented musicians to a live set... ok. got it. I guess I'm a watered down fan because I enjoy the 6-piece live band. Who knew.

7 minutes ago, That Dude said:

I think new Fink is Alanis Morissette.  

 

Well isn't that ironic...

 

don'tcha think?

[That Dude]

19 hours ago, Paxton said:

If you like garbage music, check out "An Honest Mistake", "Believe", "Fearless", "Time Wont Let Me Go" by The Bravery. They're just as horrible as Franz Ferdinand, The Killers etc.

If you had a driver's license in 2005, I find it hard to believe you haven't heard at least one of those songs. Check them out...might ring a bell in your head from years back

I am listening to The Bravery at this very moment.     You won't believe this, but I've never heard one note from this band.   

We've got to study every musician to see if they fit the bill to be The Network, but I think we can safely say The Bravery are not The Network.        They are not very good.   They sound like the Strokes if the Strokes were watered down 3000 percent.   Yawn! 

[That Dude]

2 hours ago, jengd said:

Yes, at different times but not all together.

what is so watered down and contrived? Not being funny, I don’t know what you mean.

The addition musicians at their shows are what made them more successful.   I've thought about this a lot.   

We've got to bring up Blink-182 for a second.   Their self titled 2003 record is one of their best, and it contains a LOT of instruments beyond the three piece band.    While Blink-182 are one of the worst live bands around (I love them anyway), it was even more pronounced once they started making big, epic records like that.   They went out with just the three of them and the new songs sounds terrible.    Sometimes it would just be Mark and Tom doing acapella because the music wasn't made by guitars and drums.   Or Tom would strike a chord every other verse,  YIKES!   

Now, Green Day had had the touring band for a while.   But when American Idiot came out, I knew they would need more than an extra guitar player to recreate these songs on stage.   Think what Boulevard of Broken Dreams would sound like with nothing but guitar and drums.    It would be a different song.    

I think there may have even been an article about this.    Where Blink-182 made a big record that they couldn't perform live, Green Day made a great record and brought the Big Three along with them to make it come to life on stage and pop.   

This was part of the reason American Idiot was so huge.    Would it have done so well if the the promotional tour was three guys on stage, struggling and failing to replicate the songs?   Or playing with a ton of backing tracks and risk being called out for it? 

Nope.   

I like the big, over the top Green Day.  and we can't have those giant, epic songs without a big band.   

I'm even in the camp of making them all official.    We need more Green Day to love.   

On topic, The Network started with five members and a touring Balducci.    I welcome him to the band and actually hope we get MORE Network members.   

If the 3 piece Green Day doubled to make it big, the Network need to outdo them and TRIPLE.   

15 member Network for the win.   

  

 

 

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

26 minutes ago, That Dude said:

The addition musicians at their shows are what made them more successful.   I've thought about this a lot.   

We've got to bring up Blink-182 for a second.   Their self titled 2003 record is one of their best, and it contains a LOT of instruments beyond the three piece band.    While Blink-182 are one of the worst live bands around (I love them anyway), it was even more pronounced once they started making big, epic records like that.   They went out with just the three of them and the new songs sounds terrible.    Sometimes it would just be Mark and Tom doing acapella because the music wasn't made by guitars and drums.   Or Tom would strike a chord every other verse,  YIKES!   

Now, Green Day had had the touring band for a while.   But when American Idiot came out, I knew they would need more than an extra guitar player to recreate these songs on stage.   Think what Boulevard of Broken Dreams would sound like with nothing but guitar and drums.    It would be a different song.    

I think there may have even been an article about this.    Where Blink-182 made a big record that they couldn't perform live, Green Day made a great record and brought the Big Three along with them to make it come to life on stage and pop.   

This was part of the reason American Idiot was so huge.    Would it have done so well if the the promotional tour was three guys on stage, struggling and failing to replicate the songs?   Or playing with a ton of backing tracks and risk being called out for it? 

Nope.   

I like the big, over the top Green Day.  and we can't have those giant, epic songs without a big band.   

I'm even in the camp of making them all official.    We need more Green Day to love.   

On topic, The Network started with five members and a touring Balducci.    I welcome him to the band and actually hope we get MORE Network members.   

If the 3 piece Green Day doubled to make it big, the Network need to outdo them and TRIPLE.   

15 member Network for the win. 

This is the most normal thing I’ve ever seen from you. 

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

I'm not up to speed with this thread at all but just popped in to say I can't stop listening to "Ivankkka is a Nazi" and have it constantly in my head! It's brilliant and hilarious 😂 

[That Dude]

1 minute ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

This is the most normal thing I’ve ever seen from you. 

You know you've achieved maximum Weirdness when talking about a 15 piece version of a band that nobody's ever heard of is your most normal post. 

As for who I would like it to be.....well.   That's a secret.   They couldn't BE in the Network if I revealed their names.   

I've asked several times, but what is the deal with Division and Fear?    I'm making my sixth compilation album of 2020, and it's going to be Fake Network heavy.    Already got my Viva Death tracks, and I'd like to find a good D and F if it's out there.   

 

10 minutes ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

I'm not up to speed with this thread at all but just popped in to say I can't stop listening to "Ivankkka is a Nazi" and have it constantly in my head! It's brilliant and hilarious 😂 

Here's the cliffnotes: 

The Network are back! 

GDA becomes a battleground over who's right.   who's wrong.  who's right who's wrong and who told who so! 

Viva Death are a decent rock band. 

Nothing is confirmed.   

 

[disappearing_boy_39]

I'm all for more musicians onstage, especially if they're as awesome as the guys in "The Big Three" (props to those who know the reference)! If you watch Bullet In A Bible, you'll see these guys aren't just great musicians but they're cool as hell. And Jason and Billie go way back—he's been playing with Green Dy consistently since The Warning tour (and appears in the When I Come Around video).

Let's not forget, Green Day have had other musicians on stage in the past. Horn players during the Nimrod tour and several others during the first leg of the AI tour. All of this adds to the live experience.

[That Dude]

1 minute ago, disappearing_boy_39 said:

I'm all for more musicians onstage, especially if they're as awesome as the guys in "The Big Three" (props to those who know the reference)! If you watch Bullet In A Bible, you'll see these guys aren't just great musicians but they're cool as hell. And Jason and Billie go way back—he's been playing with Green Dy consistently since The Warning tour (and appears in the When I Come Around video).

Let's not forget, Green Day have had other musicians on stage in the past. Horn players during the Nimrod tour and several others during the first leg of the AI tour. All of this adds to the live experience.

I'll never forget when I saw them in 2005 and Billie was doing the band introductions.   

"We're The Green Day Band from Oakland, California."    

The Green Day Band.   

and to stay on topic, The Network are discussed on famous Green Day site, GDA I guess.  

[Boobooo]

26 minutes ago, That Dude said:

You know you've achieved maximum Weirdness when talking about a 15 piece version of a band that nobody's ever heard of is your most normal post. 

As for who I would like it to be.....well.   That's a secret.   They couldn't BE in the Network if I revealed their names.   

I've asked several times, but what is the deal with Division and Fear?    

 

Division and Fear is a pitched up version of this: 

 

[Paxton]

2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Is a symphony orchestra watered down and contrived because of the number of musicians playing individual parts?

Green Day’s music has gotten more complex as they’ve evolved and they deliberately write multiple guitar parts and keyboards to give songs texture and depth, not water them down.  Three chord punk songs only need three players. They’ve branched out quite a bit from that formula since as early as 1997 and need more musicians onstage to recreate the studio sound. I would rather that than have pre-recorded tracks onstage and three players which is what some bands do. At least it’s all live.

Symphony orchestra.....Green Day.

Horrible analogy.

I saw them twice in 04 and once in 05. The show I saw in 2001 blew all three of the AI shows away. 

Let's stop with the "more complex" narrative. 4 chords instead of 3? Great. Pick up an instrument. Nothing complex about any of these songs. Or am I missing the Van Halen (see horrible analogies) like complexity on FOAM, RR, the trilogy?