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Are Green Day A Right Wing Or Left Wing Band?


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16 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said:

I demand to see proof. 

What am I? Your bitch?

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5 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

What am I? Your bitch?

I mean, if you are gonna make claims, you better have some evidence (you know, like maybe someone coming forward and saying Biden molested them as a kid). Otherwise, this is really just a conspiracy theory that is not helping anything and taking the focus away from the very real children who get abused every day in every community. 

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1 minute ago, BillieMyLove said:

I mean, if you are gonna make claims, you better have some evidence (you know, like maybe someone coming forward and saying Biden molested them as a kid). Otherwise, this is really just a conspiracy theory that is not hoping anything and taking the focus away from the very real children who get abused every day in every community. 

Well he told me himself. So now it's your decision to believe me or not.

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Just now, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Well he told me himself. So now it's your decision to believe me or not.

I though you already knew I don't believe anything you say. 🤣🤦‍♀️

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19 hours ago, 1039Revolutions said:

Billie Joe is worth 10’s of millions of dollars because of the right-wing corporate structure of America, and the fact is he can make the most of his talents and PERSONALLY reap the benefits without having to give it all back to the state.. I’m sure he appreciates that lol. (And that isn’t ‘wishful thinking’)

I don’t really want to join this, but clearly, he does not think that... listen at 2:48 

Now, please excuse me, I am going back to my hole :bunny:

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26 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said:

I mean, if you are gonna make claims, you better have some evidence (you know, like maybe someone coming forward and saying Biden molested them as a kid). Otherwise, this is really just a conspiracy theory that is not helping anything and taking the focus away from the very real children who get abused every day in every community. 

It's BS, based on people such as Trump Jr outright making up lies and people apparently thinking he looks "creepy" in some photos of him with children at public events. He's never actually been accused of doing anything inappropriate with children: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/12/facebook-posts/fact-checking-pedophilia-attacks-against-joe-biden/

It's just a smear campaign

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5 minutes ago, Hermione said:

It's BS, based on people such as Trump Jr outright making up lies and people apparently thinking he looks "creepy" in some photos of him with children at public events. He's never been accused of doing anything inappropriate with children: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/12/facebook-posts/fact-checking-pedophilia-attacks-against-joe-biden/

It's just a smear campaign

Thank you, this is what I have been trying to say. The only thing he is guilty of when it comes to this subject is maybe hugging too much LOL (though it certainly appears here that none of the kids or their parents had a problem with the hugging/touching, and most of the people involved were his family members). 

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38 minutes ago, Ellen Caulfield said:

I don’t really want to join this, but clearly, he does not think that... listen at 2:48 

Now, please excuse me, I am going back to my hole :bunny:

I’ve said time and time again that I know Billie believes the government should control our health care, and he believes in progressive taxation (the more you make, the more taxes you pay up to a certain point). And again, those are the ‘only’ two statements he’s made about believing the government should play a role in our lives, and otherwise he’s been a VERY vocal opponent of government intervention, and to me that will still make them ‘moderate’ right, and ‘liberal right-wingers/libertarians’.
 

If more evidence comes up that Billie and the band believe government should play more of a role in our lives, and take over other aspects of private industry (nationalize oil/resources, guaranteed food/shelter, free post secondary education), I will be open to believing they are really ‘swing-lefters’ but to me, they seem very happy with the ‘private/corporate’ structure of America and prefer government stay out of personal affairs, and allow people to live as freely and less regulated as possible (aside from help with health care by the rich paying their fair share).

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55 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

I’ve said time and time again that I know Billie believes the government should control our health care, and he believes in progressive taxation (the more you make, the more taxes you pay up to a certain point). And again, those are the ‘only’ two statements he’s made about believing the government should play a role in our lives, and otherwise he’s been a VERY vocal opponent of government intervention, and to me that will still make them ‘moderate’ right, and ‘liberal right-wingers/libertarians’.
 

If more evidence comes up that Billie and the band believe government should play more of a role in our lives, and take over other aspects of private industry (nationalize oil/resources, guaranteed food/shelter, free post secondary education), I will be open to believing they are really ‘swing-lefters’ but to me, they seem very happy with the ‘private/corporate’ structure of America and prefer government stay out of personal affairs, and allow people to live as freely and less regulated as possible (aside from help with health care by the rich paying their fair share).

Literally delusional :lol:

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1 hour ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

Literally delusional :lol:

Literally can’t tell me why 😆
 

Let me draw this out for you (and how I see it).. then tell me where I’m delusional:

Left Wing:

-Nationalized Oil/Resources (Government controlled oil) Private oil companies don’t exist, revenues of oil are government dollars. 

-Government pays for post secondary education with tax dollars.

-Government Pays for healthcare.

-Government controls housing (People are guaranteed housing, but don’t own houses.

-Government pays for food with tax dollars for its people, don’t necessarily have to work. 

-Government controls insurance 

-Any form of private industry is highly regulated. 

-People with high wage jobs pay upwards of 99% in taxes to pay for these guaranteed services for everyone.

Right Wing

-National Resources are privately owned and controlled by corporations/business (finders keepers).

-Post secondary education is paid for privately (less tax dollars, more money in free market)

-Health care is private/competitive 

-Housing is privately owned and controlled, for the most part (aside from special government programs).

-Food is paid for on your own, unless your on food stamps of course.

-Insurance is privately owned and controlled.

-Aim to reduce regulations to incentivize productivity 

-Taxes are as low as possible to incentivize the hardest working/most talented people to obtain their own wealth.

Conservative (not related to ‘wings’)

-Opposite same sex marriage 

-Oppose abortion

-Oppose legalization of drugs

-Oppose of things like tattoos/piercings 

-Generally Supports Censorship 

Liberals:

-Support LGBT

-Support Woman’s rights

-Support legalization of drugs

-Support freedom of expression 

-Generally Oppose Censorship 

Green Day is as Absolutely as socially liberal as they get for the most part, and I think that’s where a lot of confusion lies with what I’m saying.

When you think of an ultra conservative left-winger.. think Hitler! And I see people like Green Day on the OPPOSITE side of that. (Liberal Moderate Right-Wingers)

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We can't talk against Green Day or say bad thing about them on GDC. 
Damn even if Billie Joe would have killed someone people on here would be like ''My poor Billie. It wasn't on purpose, he's perfect''

Stop making thread against Green Day. We can't
Too many sensitive people on GDC. Sorry.

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10 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

We can't talk against Green Day or say bad thing about them on GDC. 
Damn even if Billie Joe would have killed someone people on here would be like ''My poor Billie. It wasn't on purpose, he's perfect''

Stop making thread against Green Day. We can't
Too many sensitive people on GDC. Sorry.

This doesn't feel like a thread against Green Day LOL. It feels like a thread for stupidity and drama LOL.

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Feels like a thread of confusion 

2 hours ago, 1039Revolutions said:

Green Day... (Liberal Moderate Right Left-Wingers)

FTFY

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10 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

It’s trolling. There’s no way this is for real.

You have been the equivalent of a bunion in this thread. If you don’t understand politics, it’s perfectly okay. You don’t need to say anything.

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22 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

You have been the equivalent of a bunion in this thread. If you don’t understand politics, it’s perfectly okay. You don’t need to say anything.

Kind fellow, it seems that you are the one that doesn't understand politics. You seriously asked if Green Day sides left or right  when that was never unclear.

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21 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

You have been the equivalent of a bunion in this thread. If you don’t understand politics, it’s perfectly okay. You don’t need to say anything.

I do understand it well enough to know that you’re either trying to rile people up or too far gone to be reasoned with. That’s why I refuse to debate with you.

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21 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

I do understand it well enough to know that you’re either trying to rile people up or too far gone to be reasoned with. That’s why I refuse to debate with you.

It takes more than them supporting universal healthcare to be ‘left-Wing’ okay? They are multi-millionaires who have thrived from a corporate capitalist system.
 

I will certainly be reasoned with when someone actually provides me with instances where Billie and the band have supported government ownership and control of ‘most’ aspects of society (The more government control and ownership you believe in, the further left you are).. and opposed of private ownership and individual Liberties, okay? Until then, please stop calling me a troll.

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It seems to me that this debate isn't going anywhere. This is pointless.

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26 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

It takes more than them supporting universal healthcare to be ‘left-Wing’ okay? They are multi-millionaires who have thrived from a corporate capitalist system.
 

I will certainly be reasoned with when someone actually provides me with instances where Billie and the band have supported government ownership and control of ‘most’ aspects of society (The more government control and ownership you believe in, the further left you are).. and opposed of private ownership and individual Liberties, okay? Until then, please stop calling me a troll.

What part of “I refuse to debate with you” was too difficult to understand?

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as a politics student this made me giggle, 

Don’t confuse China, an dictatorship, to left ring, either extreme of left or right ideology is bad.  And China is more right ring then left right, they are barely even communist. 

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Even people with brain damage are capable to comprehend an entire half of political compass divided vertically. If you see the upper left segment, you also see the bottom half. You only need a half of the brain to do that.

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Opened GDC up to see what people are chatting about, say this, giggled because people who think Green Day are right wing make me laugh, read two pages of this post and wanted to erase this thread from existence.  A lot of the points I would make have already been said about 30 times on here. 
 

edit: oh for fucks sake I did not just read that Bush was a leftie puppet to create the patriot act. The thread should’ve have been shut down at that point for pure stupidity. 

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