If the trilogy was a success

[Hermione]

I think they did incorporate a lot of the trilogy's musical style into both Rev Rad and FOAM, and The Longshot. They've had a certain rock n roll and/or party vibe and power pop sound present in their music for a decade now, I think it started with FBHT (although it isn't evident on 21st CB - they were created at the same time but separately as far as the direction of the sound I guess) and has continued from there. It isn't on Rev Rad as much but there's still songs like Bouncing Off the Wall in there. The differences are more to do with Billie's life experiences (partying during the trilogy, post-rehab during Rev Rad) and the subject matter he's writing about. As far as musical direction I think they've just done what they've wanted, they've done different things but they haven't shunned the trilogy sound.

[That Dude]

1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I bought Hella Mega tickets. They already have all my money 🥺

Then you have to write all three members of Green Day a personalized note that strongly encourages them to record a Trilogy-esque album.   Persuasive, but without sounding too threatening or like a crazy person.   It's be a balancing act for sure, but you can do it.  

Tell them to call it 

OMEGA MEGA Trois Mille

I tried translating Omega into any language that would make it different.   I failed, it's the same in every language.   

How about...... 

 

!catorce!   that has a better ring to it.  It will feature the guys in a Weezer like album cover.   

 

 

[Eric]

On 5/12/2020 at 1:22 AM, Joe. said:

Really? Meet me on the Roof sounds nothing like the trilogy to you? If you made the guitars a bit weaker that could easily be on tre imo

Nope. You guys are always reaching and annoying when it comes to such and such sounds like such and such like it ruins the music for you guys. Again the only one is Stab You In The Heart. I guess its just a Green Day fanbase thing to do.

[Joe.]

4 minutes ago, Eric said:

Nope. You guys are always reaching and annoying when it comes to such and such sounds like such and such like it ruins the music for you guys. Again the only one is Stab You In The Heart. I guess its just a Green Day fanbase thing to do.

To my ear they're both very sugary pop, not coming from a hatred of pop just what I hear. Doesn't ruin the music for me, I think they're both independently dire and coincidentally sound similar.

[Eric]

again only one similar sounding song, the rest its in your head get over it FOAM doesnt sound like the trilogy.

[Joe.]

2 minutes ago, Eric said:

again only one similar sounding song, the rest its in your head get over it FOAM doesnt sound like the trilogy.

[petros]

3 hours ago, Eric said:

again only one similar sounding song, the rest its in your head get over it FOAM doesnt sound like the trilogy.

Well you can say that everyone is wrong, but you're wrong. 

[Jonny smith]

All the songs are fun, but not all the songs are great sadly. 
weak cuts - oh love, fuck time, see you tonight, nightlife, trouble maker, the forgotten...
All are b-side worthy But needed cutting. 
should’ve made DOS a foxboro album and made one full album out of uno and tre. 
 

singles could’ve been 

xkid 

stay the night

99 revolutions

[Little Boy Named Booze]

19 minutes ago, Jonny smith said:

singles could’ve been 

xkid 

stay the night

99 revolutions

In short, all the trilogy singles was a bad choice.

[Lenny]

On 5/12/2020 at 3:43 PM, petros said:

Well it sucked so how could it become successful all of a sudden given the fact that it was a rock release that sucked? 

Uno was actually a decent album and if it just ended there we wouldn't be in this thread

[Signe]

I honeslty dont understand why these albums are considered so terrible. They are not top 3 but jeez... They are fine.

[WhiteTim]

3 hours ago, Signe said:

I honeslty dont understand why these albums are considered so terrible. They are not top 3 but jeez... They are fine.

I wouldn’t say terrible but some of the lyrics are questionable plus the production a lot of songs needed to be loud (check the versions on Demolicious) and not the clean fake live in studio feel they went with  but there are some very good songs on the trilogy 

[Signe]

3 hours ago, WhiteTim said:

I wouldn’t say terrible but some of the lyrics are questionable plus the production a lot of songs needed to be loud (check the versions on Demolicious) and not the clean fake live in studio feel they went with  but there are some very good songs on the trilogy 

Agree about the sound. A lot of it is very...flat? A song like stay the night for example, I dont understand why they put a "filter" on it. It could have been such a banger. 

[Joe.]

10 hours ago, petros said:

Well you can say that everyone is wrong, but you're wrong. 

No no, its all collectively in our heads!

[Christian's Inferno!]

14 hours ago, Eric said:

Nope. You guys are always reaching and annoying when it comes to such and such sounds like such and such like it ruins the music for you guys. Again the only one is Stab You In The Heart. I guess its just a Green Day fanbase thing to do.

Ah, yes. Everyone else is wrong. Only Eric is right about anything lol. So typical

FOAM has songs that sound like the trilogy and that's just a fact. Most of us aren't even commenting on the quality of the trilogy or FOAM when we say that so idk why you're getting so triggered 😆

 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

1 hour ago, Signe said:

Agree about the sound. A lot of it is very...flat? A song like stay the night for example, I dont understand why they put a "filter" on it. It could have been such a banger. 

Omg you're so right! Stay The Night and Carpe Diem with their stupid filter. I mean, why?

[That Dude]

The Trilogy WAS a success.   

There, I said it.  

 

[Joe.]

1 hour ago, That Dude said:

The Trilogy WAS a success.   

There, I said it.  

 

In what way?

[That Dude]

12 minutes ago, Joe. said:

In what way?

In every way.   

The bright side of things:    Uno was certified gold, "Oh Love" broke music records, "Kill the DJ" was big in Belgium and South Korea.  

Dos....#9 on the billboard charts.   "Stray Heart" did okay in other countries.   

Tre....debuted at #13.  "X-Kid" charted in few random charts, and I believe "The Forgotten" got a tiny bit of traction somewhere in the world.   Where in the world, you ask?  I forgot them.  

All three combined may have reached nearly a million in sales.   

I dunno.    It was bad time for Green Day, but I feel like it the same situation happened with any other band, it would have been worse.   Some bands may have sold NOTHING, but the sheer power of  Green Day's awesome songs kept the albums going at least a bit.  

 

 

 

 

 

[Christian's Inferno!]

5 minutes ago, That Dude said:

In every way.   

The bright side of things:    Uno was certified gold, "Oh Love" broke music records, "Kill the DJ" was big in Belgium and South Korea.  

Dos....#9 on the billboard charts.   "Stray Heart" did okay in other countries.   

Tre....debuted at #13.  "X-Kid" charted in few random charts, and I believe "The Forgotten" got a tiny bit of traction somewhere in the world.   Where in the world, you ask?  I forgot them.  

All three combined may have reached nearly a million in sales.   

I dunno.    It was bad time for Green Day, but I feel like it the same situation happened with any other band, it would have been worse.   Some bands may have sold NOTHING, but the sheer power of  Green Day's awesome songs kept the albums going at least a bit.  

 

That's the point though. It was bad for Green Day. Of course most other bands would be happy if their albums did as well as the trilogy did. But most bands aren't Green Day

[Hermione]

I just liked the post because I enjoyed it and therefore it was a success  

[Joe.]

1 hour ago, That Dude said:

In every way.   

The bright side of things:    Uno was certified gold, "Oh Love" broke music records, "Kill the DJ" was big in Belgium and South Korea.  

Dos....#9 on the billboard charts.   "Stray Heart" did okay in other countries.   

Tre....debuted at #13.  "X-Kid" charted in few random charts, and I believe "The Forgotten" got a tiny bit of traction somewhere in the world.   Where in the world, you ask?  I forgot them.  

All three combined may have reached nearly a million in sales.   

I dunno.    It was bad time for Green Day, but I feel like it the same situation happened with any other band, it would have been worse.   Some bands may have sold NOTHING, but the sheer power of  Green Day's awesome songs kept the albums going at least a bit.  

 

 

 

 

 

With the greatest of respect to Belgium and South Korea, but if they’re the argument for an albums success then it probably wasn’t a success

[WhiteTim]

4 hours ago, That Dude said:

In every way.   

The bright side of things:    Uno was certified gold, "Oh Love" broke music records, "Kill the DJ" was big in Belgium and South Korea.  

 

 

 

 

 

RIAA who certifies albums gold or platinum has nothing listed for Uno what’s your source? 

[Lenny]

7 hours ago, Joe. said:

In what way?

Uno sold more than Rev Rad lol 

 

3 hours ago, WhiteTim said:

RIAA who certifies albums gold or platinum has nothing listed for Uno what’s your source? 

Uno is certified Gold - everywhere but the US

7 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

 It was bad for Green Day. 

It just didn't have any direction or strategy. Take away Billie's issues at the time and you would have the same result. 

Uno was a good record. A little bit less than average for Green Day standards but something that tied in GD up to that point while abruptly ditching the entire previous decade and their image from then. That's where the positives end. 

Coming off one of their biggest records and one that showed a ton of musical growth it was a huge error to come out of the gates talking up the trilogy like it was going to be the biggest thing in their career and that it was the most prolific songwriting they ever had till that point. 

I think from an instrumental standpoint they did try some new things but they should have ironed out 12 songs the best they could dropped uno and came out saying it's back to basics mixed with what we've learned over the years. A version of Warning from the other side of the concept albums. 

[Christian's Inferno!]

18 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

Uno sold more than Rev Rad lol 

 

Uno is certified Gold - everywhere but the US

It just didn't have any direction or strategy. Take away Billie's issues at the time and you would have the same result. 

Uno was a good record. A little bit less than average for Green Day standards but something that tied in GD up to that point while abruptly ditching the entire previous decade and their image from then. That's where the positives end. 

Coming off one of their biggest records and one that showed a ton of musical growth it was a huge error to come out of the gates talking up the trilogy like it was going to be the biggest thing in their career and that it was the most prolific songwriting they ever had till that point. 

I think from an instrumental standpoint they did try some new things but they should have ironed out 12 songs the best they could dropped uno and came out saying it's back to basics mixed with what we've learned over the years. A version of Warning from the other side of the concept albums. 

I mean, we're not really talking about the quality of the project here. We're talking about its commercial success and by their standards, they did poorly in terms of commercial success - below average album sales/chart positions, all singles after Oh Love got very little attention and charted low. They also received worse critical reception. On Metacritic, Uno Dos and Tré had the lowest Metascore and User score of all their other studio albums. Dos & Tré also did far worse than Uno which already performed below their usual average

Uno sold more than RevRad, but in a 2012 context where
A) Green Day were more popular - 21CB was only 3 years old and did fairly well commercially, especially with the success of 21 Guns. 
B) Albums sold more - In 2016 people don't buy albums as much because of streaming. RevRad did better in terms of streaming than the trilogy as a result

I think RevRad did about what was expected. People, including the band, expected the trilogy to do better than it did. But a lot of people were mixed about the quality of the albums and the iHeart incident/rehab/cancelling tour dates had a significant effect too.