michael1989 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 If the trilogy was successful and loved by the fans, would GD's post-trilogy direction have changed? Although most here will say Billie and the gang don't care about success, I'm sure like all artists they do care about what their fans think. If AI for example sold less than Warning and the fans hated it, I think it's safe to say we wouldn't have gotten 21CB. Similarly, I think if the trilogy did well we would have got more music in that style and we wouldn't have ended up with RevRad. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, michael1989 said: If the trilogy was successful and loved by the fans, would GD's post-trilogy direction have changed? Although most here will say Billie and the gang don't care about success, I'm sure like all artists they do care about what their fans think. If AI for example sold less than Warning and the fans hated it, I think it's safe to say we wouldn't have gotten 21CB. Similarly, I think if the trilogy did well we would have got more music in that style and we wouldn't have ended up with RevRad. Thoughts? I think you’re right, Billie would have felt validated by the power pop direction and maybe kept up with it, although they always try to vary each album’s style regardless. The experimentation might have gone another way. Clearly he still loves his power pop. I think due to the Trilogy’s perceived failure he’s since kept it away from Green Day and that’s a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 The promotion for the Trilogy would have lasted much longer. I can't find the original release date for Dos, so I'll leave it the same. Tre was supposed to be released on January 15th, 2013. Here's what would have happened: Dos comes out November 9th, or thereabouts. Stray Heart - September. Amy - October Red lights flash - November Tre comes out when it was supposed to, January: X-Kid - December 8th Avenue Serenade - January 99 Revolutions - Febuary The forgotten - They pull a "Jesus of Suburbia" here, with a single coming out nearly a year after the album. Christmas single! The Trilogy era should have lasted from July, 2012 to December of 2013. A year and a half, if not longer. Instead, we essentially got July to September 2012. 2 months. No comedy, all tragedy. Revolution Radio and Father of All would have been different animals. Probably not too far off from what they were, but enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 It always seems like Billie feels sad that people didn't like it and that makes me sad. He doesn't play those songs hardly at all anymore because he assumes we don't want to hear them, I think. I personally loved the Trilogy and wish that it got more love from both the fans and the band. I wish he could feel the love for the Trilogy that a lot of us actually have. Maybe if it had been more successful, they would have continued with that playful, garage rock spirit. I really like RevRad too and I'm glad they chose to go that direction, but it would have been interesting to see if that direction would have been altered in any way if things had gone differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He probably would’ve, you might argue 21stCB is a continuation of the sound of AI which was hugely successful. Personally think FOAM has a lot of similarities to the trilogy, just is a bit beefier so it’s something he’s wanting to do and is something he’s still not really cracked yet. Whether FOAMs lack of success means it’s left behind only time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Joe. said: He probably would’ve, you might argue 21stCB is a continuation of the sound of AI which was hugely successful. Personally think FOAM has a lot of similarities to the trilogy, just is a bit beefier so it’s something he’s wanting to do and is something he’s still not really cracked yet. Whether FOAMs lack of success means it’s left behind only time will tell I dunno, I think The Longshot pretty much nailed the sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, JOE THE X-KID said: I dunno, I think The Longshot pretty much nailed the sound Not a green day release tho, seems odd to move backwards with FOAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I’d say it’s hard to think of a what-if, because a lot would have to change in order to make trilogy successful. But if it was, there’d be no Revolution Radio and no Longshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I think everything they've done since the trilogy has been quite similar to the trilogy. RevRad is like the trilogy but with some more politics. Longshot & FOAM seems to follow the sound of the trilogy more than anything else they've done. So I don't think the relative commercial failure of the trilogy bothered them. And I think the fact that the trilogy was a trilogy was the main reason it was a failure, rather than the sound of the trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I think everything they've done since the trilogy has been quite similar to the trilogy. RevRad is like the trilogy but with some more politics. Longshot & FOAM seems to follow the sound of the trilogy more than anything else they've done. So I don't think the relative commercial failure of the trilogy bothered them. And I think the fact that the trilogy was a trilogy was the main reason it was a failure, rather than the sound of the trilogy Disagree about RevRad. Also “they” didn’t do Longshot. If the Trilogy had been a success, Love is for Losers would have been a Green Day album. I also don’t think FOAM sounds like the trilogy, or at least it’s an attempt of Billie to veer in another direction and add more motown, glam and funk elements to his knee jerk instinctive power pop sound, so he was deliberately trying not to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Disagree about RevRad. Also “they” didn’t do Longshot. If the Trilogy had been a success, Love is for Losers would have been a Green Day album. I also don’t think FOAM sounds like the trilogy, or at least it’s an attempt of Billie to veer in another direction and add more motown, glam and funk elements to his knee jerk instinctive power pop sound, so he was deliberately trying not to do that. FOAM sounds like the trilogy more than it sounds like any of their other albums. I agree that there's a lot of new sounds but I'm just saying RevRad is kind of a mix of AI/21CB and the trilogy but there are some songs on there that are straight up songs I'd expect on the trilogy like Bouncing Off The Walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 FOAM sounds nothing like the trilogy lmao, the only one is obviously stab you in the heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 The only thing that I see diferent is that Longshot would be Green Day and it would come up before RevRad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 11:20 PM, Eric said: FOAM sounds nothing like the trilogy lmao, the only one is obviously stab you in the heart Really? Meet me on the Roof sounds nothing like the trilogy to you? If you made the guitars a bit weaker that could easily be on tre imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 FOAM sounds a lot like Trilogy, then Stab You In The Heart is a Fuck Time rewrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I wish we would have gotten another album between American Idiot and Breakdown. Yes, we got Foxboro Hot Tubs but I'm talking Green Day. The vibe from "The Saints are Coming", "Working Class Hero" and "The Simpsons Theme" was epic. Billie Joe in denim, also epic. The guitar tones, vocals and everything on those tunes were nothing short of magical. Rick Rubin actually produced "The Saints are Coming" while the band self produced the other two tracks. Imagine a 2007 Green Day album produced by Rick Rubin and Green Day. WHOA. I'm thinking of those late Johnny Cash American albums that Rick Rubin produced, with a lot of covers of rock songs. But the reverse. Green Day stripped down to a bare bones rock sound, and a couple country covers but made into epic Magnum Opuses with full orchestra. Oh man! 2007 Green Day was such a cool era, especially considering it was only 3 songs. But back on track, I think Billie's new solo career could take on some Trilogy songs for shows and such, since Green Day have no interest in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Anyone else think FRA sounds kinda like a trilogy song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jankowski576 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Anyone else think FRA sounds kinda like a trilogy song? Yeah would fit well on dos, lady cobra esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirnt286 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I loved the Trilogy, and wish the promotion hadn't been cut short. I *think* people liked it? I just think they didn't have enough time to promote and get people to see the trilogy for the greatness that it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Well it sucked so how could it become successful all of a sudden given the fact that it was a rock release that sucked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, petros said: Well it sucked so how could it become successful all of a sudden given the fact that it was a rock release that sucked? Well, if Billie wasn’t addicted to drugs, he wouldn’t have written an album that sounds like this (I mean, it seems like whenever he’s on a bender, he goes for a garage rock party album), so there’s a chance it wouldn’t suck, then he’d also be able to promote the not-bad album so it could be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Well, if Billie wasn’t addicted to drugs, he wouldn’t have written an album that sounds like this (I mean, it seems like whenever he’s on a bender, he goes for a garage rock party album), so there’s a chance it wouldn’t suck, then he’d also be able to promote the not-bad album so it could be successful. Billie is not addicted to drugs. Pffffff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Little Boy Named Booze said: Billie is not addicted to drugs. Pffffff. He can stop anytime he wants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 We can still make it a success. How many members do we have on GDA? Let's all get on the official site and purchase the maximum amount of Uno, Dos and Tre that they will allow. Let's SHOW them that we want more that groovy, Trilogy sound! *Their site will allow you to buy 5 copies at a time. I'm not sure how many copies that the record company has, but let's funnel all our moneys into this. Give Green Day all your money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, That Dude said: We can still make it a success. How many members do we have on GDA? Let's all get on the official site and purchase the maximum amount of Uno, Dos and Tre that they will allow. Let's SHOW them that we want more that groovy, Trilogy sound! *Their site will allow you to buy 5 copies at a time. I'm not sure how many copies that the record company has, but let's funnel all our moneys into this. Give Green Day all your money! I bought Hella Mega tickets. They already have all my money 🥺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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