Billie has written 6 new songs, will be working with Butch

[jengd]

46 minutes ago, michael1989 said:

Is anyone more keen for new music than a tour? Whether that be new GD, Longshot or No Fun Mondays.

Obviously a tour would be great but if the downtime means more new music then I'm all for it.

Yes, we are insatiable can never get enough of either.

[That Dude]

4 hours ago, Matt. said:

No. Stop.

Titles have changed but they are the same songs. 

1. Cannibus Cometbus

2. Moose

3. Dance your Boogie

4. What Time

5. Dirty

6.  Rumors / Toilets / Dogs

This is exciting news!   I wonder when this will become a full album.  During the tour would be weird but okay.

They have downtime now, so if they were up for it, do the Hella Mega, promote some more singles from FOAM and then immediately drop a new album and go on tour again.

 

[KGLWW]

I really don't mind keeping with the foam type sound as long as it's a little deeper of an album. I mean with a couple more really solid songs. I personally really like the drums especially on foam. Takes influence from more interesting garage, sort of proggy modern type bands. I like songs like bang bang but songs like that and like american idiot have annoying drums in them. They are a little too kindergarden punk. I like the experimenting but maybe over time they can use those new sounds to make something more meaningful

[That Dude]

Butchie Woe Walmstrong 

 

[Malleus]

I hope they're better than FOAM!!!

[That Dude]

Bilch Jal Armstralker

 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

8 minutes ago, That Dude said:

Butchie Woe Walmstrong 

 

 

6 minutes ago, That Dude said:

Bilch Jal Armstralker

 

😂 I really don't get your post 😂

[That Dude]

10 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

 

😂 I really don't get your post 😂

I guess I was just thinking about them working together and what a partnership could be called. 

Butch and Billie.  

Or a new band name.    The Queen Pistols.  

[Gwen Stacy]

Guess I'm the party pooper but really not excited to hear Billie wants to work with Butch Walker again. My biggest issues with FOAM stem from the production so if they're going back to the well, I don't think I'm going to have a good time. I wish they would work with somebody who'd push the band creatively.

[pacejunkie punk]

5 minutes ago, Gwen Stacy said:

Guess I'm the party pooper but really not excited to hear Billie wants to work with Butch Walker again. My biggest issues with FOAM stem from the production so if they're going back to the well, I don't think I'm going to have a good time. I wish they would work with somebody who'd push the band creatively.

Say what you want about whether you like it but I think there’s no doubt from their perspective they feel like they were pushed creatively. Trying on new sounds and musical ideas is all they talk about when describing this album. 

[Gwen Stacy]

On 4/8/2020 at 12:01 PM, pacejunkie punk said:

Say what you want about whether you like it but I think there’s no doubt from their perspective they feel like they were pushed creatively. Trying on new sounds and musical ideas is all they talk about when describing this album. 

Well of course the band is going to say that, especially in a press junket. But to hear them talk about it, they sound like we got Nimrod pt. II which definitely isn't true.

Now when I said creative push I meant that I think the band needed to evolve in a way similar to the jump from Insomniac to Nimrod, or Warning to American Idiot. I didn't mean to suggest that there aren't new sounds or musical ideas in FOAM, clearly there are and you can like them or not (I'm not a fan but it's all subjective). I felt the band needed an overall change of ethos, or take a different direction. I think it's fair to say that FOAM is a fairly natural continuation of where the band was at during the trilogy in a larger creative sense. They differ in some ways of course, but the way Billie talks about FOAM being "partying in the apocalypse" doesn't sound all that different from how he talked about Uno or Dos. I think pairing up with a different producer might help that.

But eh, that's just my opinion. Obviously it's their band and they can go whichever way makes them happy.

[MaxGD]

On 4/8/2020 at 11:55 AM, Gwen Stacy said:

Guess I'm the party pooper but really not excited to hear Billie wants to work with Butch Walker again. My biggest issues with FOAM stem from the production so if they're going back to the well, I don't think I'm going to have a good time. I wish they would work with somebody who'd push the band creatively.

I mean I’m in the same boat, but kinda opposite. Butch said he produced the album how Billie wanted it to sound. Butch has done great work on other albums with bowling for soup, Pink, fall out boy, Avril Lavigne, and more. This leads me to believe butch is an excellent producer but let’s the artist decide on the sound, and it sounds like that’s in billies hands. 

[Joe.]

On 4/8/2020 at 7:29 PM, Gwen Stacy said:

Well of course the band is going to say that, especially in a press junket. But to hear them talk about it, they sound like we got Nimrod pt. II which definitely isn't true.

Now when I said creative push I meant that I think the band needed to evolve in a way similar to the jump from Insomniac to Nimrod, or Warning to American Idiot. I didn't mean to suggest that there aren't new sounds or musical ideas in FOAM, clearly there are and you can like them or not (clearly I'm not a fan but it's all subjective). I felt the band needed an overall change of ethos, or take a different direction. I think it's fair to say that FOAM is a fairly natural continuation of where the band was at during the trilogy in a larger creative sense. They differ in some ways of course, but the way Billie talks about FOAM being "partying in the apocalypse" doesn't sound all that different from how he talked about Uno or Dos. I think pairing up with a different producer might help that.

But eh, that's just my opinion. Obviously it's their band and they can go whichever way makes them happy.

Completely agree. FOAM to me is a beefier trilogy in terms of sound, with considerably weaker songs. FOAM feels like a flimsier version of ideas they've had before.

13 hours ago, MaxGD said:

I mean I’m in the same boat, but kinda opposite. Butch said he produced the album how Billie wanted it to sound. Butch has done great work on other albums with bowling for soup, Pink, fall out boy, Avril Lavigne, and more. This leads me to believe butch is an excellent producer but let’s the artist decide on the sound, and it sounds like that’s in billies hands. 

From what I'm familiar with, those artists and FOAM sound similar in terms of a pop-punk (with the emphasis on pop) sound.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

I am very happy to read all of this. I am still in love wit FOAM and really appreciate the production work from Butch. I still believe this record was the best performance of musical ideas and creative directions they explored and played with for years, and that this was possible also because of Butch producer role. 
I do think the process they used to create this record is a successful one, so I don’t see anything bad in having Butch back for more songs. 

I am also very curious to find out if the discarded FOAM-session songs and these new ones will still follow the multi-genre/diverse approach of the last record or have a more consistent sound.  
 

[That Dude]

6 songs?  Slap a unicorn on the Insomniac cover and call it The BratWurst of Green Day!  The album is DONE! 

As long as there are at least 31 minutes, it is an album and not an ep.  

I hope it has Micheal Jackson samples and a really poppy vibe.   

And a cover song.  "Buddy Holly" by Weezer.

Hidden track is Tre singing Cat Scratch Fever, but he mocks Nugent in the lyrics.

That song ends with Mike Dirnt singing "I'll be back!"  Over and over as Billie and Tre sing "Nobody likes you" at the same time. 

They release an ep shortly after with songs that make us go "daaaaaaamn that sounds like American Idiot"

and before we know it, their 15th album Idiot comes out.   It has a super hot statue of liberty puking on the unicorn puking on the American Idiot cover. 

This is their finest moment.

 

[localinsomniac]

On 4/8/2020 at 12:29 PM, That Dude said:

Bilch Jal Armstralker

 

Bitch Walkstrong

[MaxGD]

9 hours ago, Joe. said:

Completely agree. FOAM to me is a beefier trilogy in terms of sound, with considerably weaker songs. FOAM feels like a flimsier version of ideas they've had before.

From what I'm familiar with, those artists and FOAM sound similar in terms of a pop-punk (with the emphasis on pop) sound.

They do sound similar in that they are pop/ pop punk artists kinda, but the Avril Lavigne (under my skin) record and bowling for soups (the great burrito extortion case) are examples of butch doing great pop punk. When it comes down to it the artist decides what it sounds like and based off the interview butch did with namm that’s exactly how he produces in terms of working with the artist. 

[Gwen Stacy]

On 4/9/2020 at 4:38 PM, MaxGD said:

I mean I’m in the same boat, but kinda opposite. Butch said he produced the album how Billie wanted it to sound. Butch has done great work on other albums with bowling for soup, Pink, fall out boy, Avril Lavigne, and more. This leads me to believe butch is an excellent producer but let’s the artist decide on the sound, and it sounds like that’s in billies hands. 

Actually I think we completely agree. I'm not terribly familiar with his work producing other artists, but he self-produced his 2011 album The Spade and I absolutely adore that record. So at first I was really excited to hear they picked him but I was disappointed with the results. Which is honestly a little crazymaking because if Butch just did what Billie wanted (more or less, obviously no fan is privy to the exact dynamic), why not self-produce? They're obviously comfortable doing that and do it fairly well IMO. 

[Doggins]

OMG MOOTIK IS REAL

[MaxGD]

2 hours ago, Gwen Stacy said:

Actually I think we completely agree. I'm not terribly familiar with his work producing other artists, but he self-produced his 2011 album The Spade and I absolutely adore that record. So at first I was really excited to hear they picked him but I was disappointed with the results. Which is honestly a little crazymaking because if Butch just did what Billie wanted (more or less, obviously no fan is privy to the exact dynamic), why not self-produce? They're obviously comfortable doing that and do it fairly well IMO. 

Yeah i see now how we agree haha, I think I interpreted it differently. Yeah, I think Billie likes control over the way it sounds but sometimes doesn’t know how to go about it so he reaches out to producers like Butch. I do wish they would instead of sending butch the tracks and having him mix they would ask for creative input more, because based off interviews it sounded like Butch was more of a mixing producer on foam opposed to all around shaping the sound with the band. 

[pacejunkie punk]

1 hour ago, MaxGD said:

Yeah i see now how we agree haha, I think I interpreted it differently. Yeah, I think Billie likes control over the way it sounds but sometimes doesn’t know how to go about it so he reaches out to producers like Butch. I do wish they would instead of sending butch the tracks and having him mix they would ask for creative input more, because based off interviews it sounded like Butch was more of a mixing producer on foam opposed to all around shaping the sound with the band. 

I disagree. I think Billie knew the sound he wanted but didn’t know how to achieve it. Butch helped him to get that sound. His contribution went way beyond mixing (he didn’t mix it anyway). He wrote the intro to Graffitia, he contributed backing vocals on tracks and advised and added all the little sonic details and effects that make these songs sound so different from your typical GD album which is what Billie wanted. 

[That Dude]

18 hours ago, localinsomniac said:

Bitch Walkstrong

Walker Texas Joe Exotic.  

[MaxGD]

8 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I disagree. I think Billie knew the sound he wanted but didn’t know how to achieve it. Butch helped him to get that sound. His contribution went way beyond mixing (he didn’t mix it anyway). He wrote the intro to Graffitia, he contributed backing vocals on tracks and advised and added all the little sonic details and effects that make these songs sound so different from your typical GD album which is what Billie wanted. 

We agree on the first half of that lol. And butch may have not been the main mixer once the album was hashed out, but he did mix things like vocals which were one of the major players in the sound change. And ur right he did add stuff to the record, but not written with the band for the majority of it, which is what I was referring to. Like I wish butch had the roll with Green Day that John feldmann has with blink. He writes with them, records them, and does some initial mixing before finishing it himself or sending it somewhere else. 

[Joe.]

1 hour ago, MaxGD said:

We agree on the first half of that lol. And butch may have not been the main mixer once the album was hashed out, but he did mix things like vocals which were one of the major players in the sound change. And ur right he did add stuff to the record, but not written with the band for the majority of it, which is what I was referring to. Like I wish butch had the roll with Green Day that John feldmann has with blink. He writes with them, records them, and does some initial mixing before finishing it himself or sending it somewhere else. 

I really don't want Butch to have any sort of impact similar to Feldman's with Blink. He's helped kill that band.

[Beerjeezus]

Butch could supply some songs he hasn’t used for Avril Lavigne