Father of all Motherfuckers - What are your thoughts on the new album?

[That Dude]

4 minutes ago, Joe. said:

By who?

You, me and everybody else.   

It's the biggest hit of all time.   But probably not for long, I just finished my new album a few minutes ago.    I'm also giving Green Day a run for their money on stupid album titles.    I've been brainstorming titles for months and it finally came to me:    

Razzmatazz Shine!  

I wanted it to be short and sweet like FOAM, but I can't cut that many songs.   I started with 97 and got it down to 14.   

 

 

 

 

[Red]

I am actually in tears 🤣

[Joe.]

15 hours ago, That Dude said:

You, me and everybody else.   

It's the biggest hit of all time.   But probably not for long, I just finished my new album a few minutes ago.    I'm also giving Green Day a run for their money on stupid album titles.    I've been brainstorming titles for months and it finally came to me:    

Razzmatazz Shine!  

I wanted it to be short and sweet like FOAM, but I can't cut that many songs.   I started with 97 and got it down to 14.   

 

 

 

 

So nobody then

[pacejunkie punk]

Listening to the album more, I think some of the songs are a bit underwritten (and therefore unsatisfying even if I like them) and the rest spot on structurally speaking (they feel complete).  

Underwritten: FRA - Needs something more, not sure what.  Longer bridge maybe, or some additional lyrics with less repetition. It's just too short.

IWATT: This one may be the most frustrating.  It's so repetitive and therefore unnecessarily long.  I'm tempted to skip it except that I love the one verse and chorus it has, but it then proceeds to repeat the same verse twice and chorus three times with little change to the music.  Even the bridge is just a repeat of the melody.  This song had great potential I wish it had a second verse and a lyrical bridge and did not repeat the chorus three times without changes to the lyrics.  It's a great one minute idea played out for almost four.

Sugar Youth: Almost as frustrating as IWATT but in some ways more so because I love love love this song.  I just wish it had a bridge and the chorus (which is phenomenal) returned at the end of it.  It would have made an already great song perfect.

Graffitia: If I had my pick for longest song on the record, it would have been this one.  IWATT doesn't deserve to be nearly four minutes but Graffitia definitely does.  Again a second verse or a bridge, just a more interesting structure overall to go with what already is a great start.  

Spot on structurally speaking, wouldn't change a thing: FOAM (other than cutting back on the falsetto by about 50%), Oh Yeah, MMOTR, SYITH, JOAH, TTMAC

 

[That Dude]

12 hours ago, Red said:

I am actually in tears 🤣

I was so busy posting it on here I forgot to watch it! 

"New Reality" by Green Day.   Oh, that would be sick!  

[17Gonzalo]

4 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Listening to the album more, I think some of the songs are a bit underwritten (and therefore unsatisfying even if I like them) and the rest spot on structurally speaking (they feel complete).  

Underwritten: FRA - Needs something more, not sure what.  Longer bridge maybe, or some additional lyrics with less repetition. It's just too short.

IWATT: This one may be the most frustrating.  It's so repetitive and therefore unnecessarily long.  I'm tempted to skip it except that I love the one verse and chorus it has, but it then proceeds to repeat the same verse twice and chorus three times with little change to the music.  Even the bridge is just a repeat of the melody.  This song had great potential I wish it had a second verse and a lyrical bridge and did not repeat the chorus three times without changes to the lyrics.  It's a great one minute idea played out for almost four.

Sugar Youth: Almost as frustrating as IWATT but in some ways more so because I love love love this song.  I just wish it had a bridge and the chorus (which is phenomenal) returned at the end of it.  It would have made an already great song perfect.

Graffitia: If I had my pick for longest song on the record, it would have been this one.  IWATT doesn't deserve to be nearly four minutes but Graffitia definitely does.  Again a second verse or a bridge, just a more interesting structure overall to go with what already is a great start.  

Spot on structurally speaking, wouldn't change a thing: FOAM (other than cutting back on the falsetto by about 50%), Oh Yeah, MMOTR, SYITH, JOAH, TTMAC

 

Agree mostly with Graffitia. To short for the feeling of  the song... Everytime i hear it  I repeat, because in not enough... It has potential for  being a 4 or 5 minutes song

[Beerjeezus]

Definitely. Graffitia feels too short and it would suit it to be longer so the lyrics could play out some more

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Maybe just another verse for Graffitia. Verse are my favorite part in this song. The chorus is pretty good too but not as catchy. 

[pacejunkie punk]

12 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said:

Maybe just another verse for Graffitia. Verse are my favorite part in this song. The chorus is pretty good too but not as catchy. 

Definitely could use another verse

[UNICORN VOMIT]

3 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

Definitely. Graffitia feels too short and it would suit it to be longer so the lyrics could play out some more

Yeah it gives you a taste that BJ has still got it but doesn't want to work that hard🙄

[Lenny]

The internet is treating FOAMF like the Playstation Classic. Kinda sad to see a bunch of drones that know nothing try to act like their opinion is valuable. 

I get objectively why the reviews are mixed but the album is not a 0/10... While this possibly may be my least or second least favourite that's more just based on my taste and punk bias. 

I will say I am getting pissed off with the hate around "why is he doing this vocally why doesn't he just do the thing he always does?". I will say these are some of the hardest GD songs to sing and he's hitting notes he hasn't hit since 39/Smooth (which was when he was a kid...). 

Mike's bass playing and the band as a rhythm section is really tight as well. Just seems that the negatives and changes are overshadowing some of the more positive things. 

 

[jengd]

Yep, I am getting frustrated that so many people seem unable to see and hear all that’s going on in FOAM.

[Beerjeezus]

39/Smooth was many cigarettes ago 

[Lenny]

3 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

39/Smooth was many cigarettes ago 

They recorded most of those songs in their teens. Even though a kid's voice will change permanently around 14-15 the singing range doesn't really fully change until about 19-20. You can actually hear somewhat of a difference between 39/Smooth and Kerplunk. If you actually listen to the legitimate albums and not the compilations. 

[Lenny]

16 minutes ago, jengd said:

Yep, I am getting frustrated that so many people seem unable to see and hear all that’s going on in FOAM.

The huge issue with music is people who are not knowledgeable can hide behind "well it's my opinion!". That's great and they're totally entitled to it but it doesn't mean you know anything about music from an objective standpoint. 

"In my opinion I hate when he does vocals in this style..." that's great and you can totally have that opinion but as a musician myself I know when Billie was hitting that mic to record he was pushing himself past anything he's done prior. So stylistically it may not be people's choice but he was challenging himself. Something people fear to do these days...

I also love the fusion with other genres on this record, specifically the motown influence on it. I can listen to Jackson 5 and throw Meet Me On The Roof in that list and it actually fits which I think is awesome. Some of these songs remind me of the later Clash records and while I love their early records it was studying their later records that pushed me to be more creative and become a better musician. That and my love for prog rock. 

[That Dude]

15 hours ago, 17Gonzalo said:

Agree mostly with Graffitia. To short for the feeling of  the song... Everytime i hear it  I repeat, because in not enough... It has potential for  being a 4 or 5 minutes song

Maybe we will get other parts of Graffitia on later releases.  

Graffitia Part 0. 

Graffitia Part 2. 

Graffitia Part 3. 

Or maybe the one we already got is part 2.  

 

[Thatsername]

3 minutes ago, That Dude said:

Maybe we will get other parts of Graffitia on later releases.  

Graffitia Part 0. 

Graffitia Part 2. 

Graffitia Part 3. 

Or maybe the one we already got is part 2.  

 

#GraffitiaConceptAlbum

[pacejunkie punk]

41 minutes ago, Thatsername said:

#GraffitiaConceptAlbum

@BraedonHorbacio 🙏🙏🙏

[Lenny]

23 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

@BraedonHorbacio 🙏🙏🙏

is he in panicland or something

[Beerjeezus]

1 hour ago, Sheenius said:

is he in panicland or something

Yes

[Aidana]

So is is this the end of the hype? The pause is so underwhelming. They could be doing some live streams and play new songs, or maybe record a live video from their studio. Anything at this point would have been better.

[Little Boy Named Booze]

26 minutes ago, Aidana Shyngysbayeva said:

So is is this the end of the hype? The pause is so underwhelming. They could be doing some live streams and play new songs, or maybe record a live video from their studio. Anything at this point would have been better.

It's the worst promotion in the histoiry of promotion.

[Beerjeezus]

This is so bad that I’m convinced there must be at least some underlying issues. There are professionals doing this, they surely know complete silence isn’t how you promote anything.

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Just imagine if the HM is cancelled 😂 

[pacejunkie punk]

6 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

This is so bad that I’m convinced there must be at least some underlying issues. There are professionals doing this, they surely know complete silence isn’t how you promote anything.

This. I suspect there is a lot that we don’t know that is behind this silence.