Father of all Motherfuckers - What are your thoughts on the new album?

[That Dude]

Anyone else hearing that "yeah, I got it" at the beginning of another song other than "Oh Yeah"   I'll check again on my morning drive, but I think it's on "Junkies"  

 

My thoughts on the new album are that GDA need to update their music section.   

 

[greenalert997x]

9 minutes ago, Gonzalo17 said:

I was listening today the hole new album on spotyfy and when junkies in the high started I thought that it was a spotyfy anouncement!!! Terrible song!! 

There are plenty of such comments and it only confirms something is up.

It hurts me the most as a fan. Apart from sheer hate comments some people who like foamf admit it's just a good music to be played occasionally in the background, nothing more. And it's known that music intended to be in the background is often stripped away from higher values. 

We do all know it's just a dace, fun record, just like Billie said. But I can agree with those who hate the commercial vibe of foamf. 

JOAH is the best example

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

19 minutes ago, greenalert997x said:

There are plenty of such comments and it only confirms something is up.

It hurts me the most as a fan. Apart from sheer hate comments some people who like foamf admit it's just a good music to be played occasionally in the background, nothing more. And it's known that music intended to be in the background is often stripped away from higher values. 

We do all know it's just a dace, fun record, just like Billie said. But I can agree with those who hate the commercial vibe of foamf. 

JOAH is the best example

Can you explain me by which standard you consider Junkies a commercial song? Not asking this as a provocation, I am just curious to know which commercial songs of today’s music market this reminds you of.

I would also be curious to know how this is more a “background” record than anything this band released at least in the last 10 years. I don’t want to shut down your criticism, I just would like to understand where it comes from. It’s like the people calling these car commercial songs, I really struggle to understand which commercial they are referring to, and would like to find out. Out of fun I skimmed through the first bunch of videos showing up on YT looking for “car commercial 2019” and none has a rock song as a soundtrack, so I am a bit confused.

[That Dude]

The album is indeed a history of Rock N Roll, and I just noticed that "Sugar Youth" is kind of acknowledging and boasting that 2004 Green Day Sound is part of that history, which is really awesome.

Another awesome thing about Father of All is the way the lyrics draw a picture.  Billie has hit a lyrical vein that really makes my imagination go crazy and I love it! 

Each song paints a picture of Billie’s creation, and while it sounds different this time around, it's still the same message as before. 

A message of hope and love. 

[Bakabanas]

Nope. Still not buying into negative reviews. Still a strong 8/10 for me. Although I enjoy reading other people's opinions about the album so much!

[Doggins]

A week in and it's probably a 6/10 for me

And thats saying something as last week I'd give it a 2

 

I've now listened to it too many times trying to like it more, but now feel like I'm over it already unfortunately

 

Bring on the next proper album

[Thatsername]

My vinyl from the GD shop still hasn't arrived, dammit! I listened to the CD and on Spotify multiple times, now I need the vinyl experience. What I can definitely say is that this album is a headphone album. You're missing something if you don't listen to this shit with good headphones, there's so much going on in the background and I can't get over the fact how cool those stereo effects are.

[papa]

im not sure ill ever understand why anybody gives a shit what other people think of a record. if you like it - thats great. why are you concerned with reviews or what other people think? 

gd are massive millionaires and don't really need anymore money. some people not buying their albums based on reviews or not like them are not going to stop them from making music. they do it because they want to.

 

so once again i pose the question - why do you give a shit what people think?

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

6 minutes ago, papa said:

im not sure ill ever understand why anybody gives a shit what other people think of a record. if you like it - thats great. why are you concerned with reviews or what other people think? 

gd are massive millionaires and don't really need anymore money. some people not buying their albums based on reviews or not like them are not going to stop them from making music. they do it because they want to.

 

so once again i pose the question - why do you give a shit what people think?

You know, this is a forum, not a social media comment section. We are here to share our opinions, discuss and confront them. I do give a shit about what other people think, I like to confront my opinion with those of other fans, otherwise I would not be here, I would probably be tweeting about Ariana Grande’s fans or comment Billie’s ass on Instagram  

[greenalert997x]

52 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Can you explain me by which standard you consider Junkies a commercial song? Not asking this as a provocation, I am just curious to know which commercial songs of today’s music market this remind you of. 

There is no standard to consider a song commercial, this is just my feeling. 

The same thing when a song is considered boring. You can't tell how do you measure the boringness of a song. You just feel it and sometimes it's hard to put it in words. 

I like JOAH, but for me, the song is really good to be played in a car or while doing something. And in a TV commercial, when you see some stuff and the song you hear shouldn't make you focus on the music, but it has to be just a nice complement to advertising. This means the song cannot be above average, beacuse it will you divert from an adverised product. But of course, there are a lot of great bands songs used in a commercial, but they are one of the most easily digestible among others

And the comments like 'it sounds like a car commercial song' are rather negative. People mean it's boring and think that GD put out those songs only for making profit. And it hurts. 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

1 minute ago, greenalert997x said:

There is no standard to consider a song commercial, this is just my feeling. 

The same thing when a song is considered boring. You can't tell how do you measure the boringness of a song. You just feel it and sometimes it's hard to put it in words. 

I like JOAH, but for me, the song is really good to be played in a car or while doing something. And in a TV commercial, when you see some stuff and the song you hear shouldn't make you focus on the music, but it has to be just a nice complement to advertising. This means the song cannot be above average, beacuse it will you divert from an adverised product. But of course, there are a lot of great bands songs used in a commercial, but they are one of the most easily digestible among other songs

And the comments like 'it sounds like a car commercial song' are rather negative. People mean it's boring and think that GD put out those songs only for making profit. And that hurts. 

Ok I can get that, it’s just that when someone calls these songs commercial I believe they mean they are made to be commercial. And I really don’t see this as the case in today’s commercial music scene. Wether a song is commercial or not to me is less of a subjective factor then “boring” or “I don’t like it”. As if someone says this is a car commercial song, I think they mean it sounds like the average car commercial song, which to me it doesn’t look like the case, since 99% of the car commercial songs I hear are either current pop hits, ambient music, or electronic stuff. But I see we read this in a different way  

[pacejunkie punk]

16 minutes ago, papa said:

im not sure ill ever understand why anybody gives a shit what other people think of a record. if you like it - thats great. why are you concerned with reviews or what other people think? 

gd are massive millionaires and don't really need anymore money. some people not buying their albums based on reviews or not like them are not going to stop them from making music. they do it because they want to.

 

so once again i pose the question - why do you give a shit what people think?

I can answer this by saying it’s like rooting for your favorite sports team. I like to see them have success and it feels good when what they do is received well by others and they are successful. Maybe it validates my opinion of them but also I think maybe it makes them happy.  
 

By contrast, if they’re getting hate or a release flops I feel bad for them.  Artists still want what they make to be liked and appreciated no matter how much money they have. It’s not about money.  I think a lot of them have a measure of self doubt and need the external validation to a point, even while they can insist on making the music they want to make and claim that doesn’t matter.   

[michael1989]

After a few listens now I can say it's a disappointment and probably the first release of theirs that has ever disappointed me. Credit to them for trying something different, though I don't think they entirely followed through in pushing ahead in a new direction. There's definitely some recycled stuff in there. There's also a clash of different styles that don't gel. Songs like Meet Me On The Roof and Stab You In The Heart have a very 60s rock n roll vibe. They could have easily done a whole album in that style and I would have been happy. Then others like FOAM and Graffitia have a more modern, post-punk sound. All in all it's not a very cohesive album. After a few more listens I will likely pick my favourites and rarely revisit the album as a whole. But there's really no obvious stand-outs, sadly.

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

2 hours ago, papa said:

im not sure ill ever understand why anybody gives a shit what other people think of a record. if you like it - thats great. why are you concerned with reviews or what other people think? 

gd are massive millionaires and don't really need anymore money. some people not buying their albums based on reviews or not like them are not going to stop them from making music. they do it because they want to.

 

so once again i pose the question - why do you give a shit what people think?

Truthfully? It’s painful to see our favorite band ridiculed. Their cred is taking a hit and some of it was caused by unwise promo and unnecessary comments in interviews. They need to do better. As far as the music, they should keep putting out whatever they want and the critics can go to hell.  Just don’t make these other mistakes again. 

And this is coming from someone who was happy when they switched to Crush. Not anymore.

Oh and one more thing. They really need to pick their singles more carefully. 

[That Dude]

2 hours ago, papa said:

im not sure ill ever understand why anybody gives a shit what other people think of a record. if you like it - thats great. why are you concerned with reviews or what other people think? 

gd are massive millionaires and don't really need anymore money. some people not buying their albums based on reviews or not like them are not going to stop them from making music. they do it because they want to.

 

so once again i pose the question - why do you give a shit what people think?

I guess the concern would be if everyone on the planet HATES this album or doesn't even bother listening to it, that could make it harder for Green Day to release more music, or take some of the fun out of it for Billie and the gang.

How weird would it be if EVERY Green Day album was equally good as the next?  That is kind of impossible.

But like you said, Green Day can make as many album as they like. 

They have millions and you don't need a record label or even fans to put out music. 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

1 hour ago, michael1989 said:

After a few listens now I can say it's a disappointment and probably the first release of theirs that has ever disappointed me. Credit to them for trying something different, though I don't think they entirely followed through in pushing ahead in a new direction. There's definitely some recycled stuff in there. There's also a clash of different styles that don't gel. Songs like Meet Me On The Roof and Stab You In The Heart have a very 60s rock n roll vibe. They could have easily done a whole album in that style and I would have been happy. Then others like FOAM and Graffitia have a more modern, post-punk sound. All in all it's not a very cohesive album. After a few more listens I will likely pick my favourites and rarely revisit the album as a whole. But there's really no obvious stand-outs, sadly.

Well the fact of being a diverse record that span through different rock styles and ages is what the band promised to do with this record, and actually what I wanted and really like about this  I find it quite unique in today’s music landscape, and a brave and well execute choice. One of those things that very few bands today have the skills or courage to pull out, and one of the reasons I think it’s pointless to ask “would you have liked this record if it was not from GD?”. What other band could have released something like this in 2020? IMHO not so many. 

Just to be clear, I am not saying that your opinion is wrong, just pointing out how different expectations surrounded this record release, and how diverse this fanbase is, which is cool to me  

[GuitarPunk94]

me as a guitarist:

playing foam on the guitar is, i dunno, boring af? i can understand why billie mainly sings the new songs without really playing the guitar ^^

the overall structure for the guitar is just lame (and kinda too easy)

even the trilogy had better "guitar" songs to play

(still lovin the new album)

[pacejunkie punk]

22 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

Truthfully? It’s painful to see our favorite band ridiculed. Their cred is taking a hit and some of it was caused by unwise promo and unnecessary comments in interviews. They need to do better. As far as the music, they should keep putting out whatever they want and the critics can go to hell.  Just don’t make these other mistakes again. 

And this is coming from someone who was happy when they switched to Crush. Not anymore.

Oh and one more thing. They really need to pick their singles more carefully. 

Nearly everyone seems to agree that Graffitia is an outstanding anthem of a GD song. Why wasn’t this a single for example? It’s frustrating. 

[Beerjeezus]

Should have gone with MMOTR, Graffitia and Junkies for the more experimental single

[Forever Now]

They nailed it out of the ballpark with Graffitia. Quite possibly the best closing track since Whatsername. 

[Lenny]

28 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Nearly everyone seems to agree that Graffitia is an outstanding anthem of a GD song. Why wasn’t this a single for example? It’s frustrating. 

No reason why it can't be sometime soon. 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

35 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Nearly everyone seems to agree that Graffitia is an outstanding anthem of a GD song. Why wasn’t this a single for example? It’s frustrating. 

My best guess? It’s the only truly political song of the record and either the band, Crush or Warner didn’t want to brand this as a political record. I mean, this is what they have been repeating since day 1. 

Such a shame if this record is not being appreciated by the broader GD audience, I am truly speaking putting all my hype aside, I have listened to this a hundred times, and I honestly think this is their best work since 21CB. 

[Beerjeezus]

4 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

My best guess? It’s the only truly political song of the record and either the band, Crush or Warner didn’t want to brand this as a political record. I mean, this is what they have been repeating since day 1. 

Such a shame if this record is not being appreciated by the broader GD audience, I am truly speaking putting all my hype aside, I have listened to this a hundred times, and I honestly think this is their best work since 21CB. 

That's true, as a political song it might make it look like they're really doing American Idiot 2 (or 3, does Breakdown count?), I still think the singles are the weakest tracks on the album and I say that despite thinking it's their best work in a long time. 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

8 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

That's true, as a political song it might make it look like they're really doing American Idiot 2 (or 3, does Breakdown count?), I still think the singles are the weakest tracks on the album and I say that despite thinking it's their best work in a long time. 

I still think FOAM was a good single. They fucked it up with Oh Yeah! as album launch single, and they should have had a proper second single instead or on top of FRA. 

[21st_century_gloria]

8 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

despite thinking it's their best work in a long time. 

So would you consider this to be GD's magnum opus?  

39 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

Should have gone with MMOTR and Junkies for the more experimental single

Absolutely nOt