Father of all Motherfuckers - What are your thoughts on the new album?

[jengd]

1 hour ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

I think that, being a sample, GD will have to pay JJ and her label for the rights of that portion of song, and then they are the ones who have to give part of that money to those holding the original song credits. Might be wrong tho. 

Would he still get money when it says  “owned and controlled” by..

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

7 minutes ago, Joe. said:

Surely thats the nature of a fans forum? Critics are likely to be considerably more subjective than fans on a forum?

At the moment critics are kinder than part of the fandom tho. The album is being received quite well overall by the reviewers, also by outlets that have been trashing the band for a few years. Not saying that it will be acclaimed as a new American Idiot, but it’s not looking bad at all on that side. 

3 minutes ago, jengd said:

Would he still get money when it says  “owned and controlled” by..

No idea honestly, I was just making an assumption, but maybe he doesn’t  

[That Dude]

I'm going to try and work with the band to make the Broadway musical.   FOAM is a concept album, just admit it!  

This thing is going to be TWISTED.   Pretty sure the protagonist is going to kill every person on the planet during "Take the Money and Crawl" in cold blood.  

Not sure how he's going to go to work in a mining town after that. but we'll figure it out.  

 

 

[That Dude]

This album isn't experimental enough for you?  

Okay.  

Next album will be the real game changer.  

Billie - Drums.  

Mike - guitar, some lead vocals, main song writer 

Tre - Lead vocals, bass, songwriter  

Every song is 12 minutes or longer.  

absolutely no rock or pop songs at all.   Only a strange insanity of Jazz, K-Pop, anti-music and Danger Music.   

The song won't have titles.   

The album won't have artwork.  

You just grab the blank CDR from the shelf and pay 49.93 for it.   

 

 

[MillenniumFan]

16 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

I have some problems with this album but holy shit the overreaction by some people is ridiculous (I'm not just talking about reactions here but just generally). The album isn't that much different than what GD have been doing for the last 10 years with the exception of a couple experimental tracks but then you hear people saying that this album is the worst thing ever. I know people can have their own opinions and stuff but for people to be like "Omg this is the worst thing ever, this is like a 0/10" is just dumb imo and a ridiculous overreaction

Well, I'm pretty much the definition of a trilogy hater (though I'd prefer to say substantive critic) and generally a pre-trilogy purist, BUT all my problems with the trilogy aside, the main issue for me at the time was simple them shoving three full length albums down our throats, when there was absolutely no need for it. Releasing one full-length album instead would have been a no-brainer to most people and would infinitely have increased the trilogy's appeal to me.

FOAM on the other hand, while you can like it or dislike it (I think it's pretty alright actually) is an incredibly short, sweet and fun album. That being the case, how can this possibly be the worst thing Green Day has ever put out? It may not be to everyone's taste, but how in heaven's name is it triggering some people so much that they're giving 0/10 reviews on Metacritic? It would seem to me the album should offer at least something for everyone, even if you're not a fan of the greater package. I personally despise FRA, but some other songs on the album are quite enjoyable. I don't know, the outrage boggles my mind too, really...

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Also I'll admit it, I'm officially in love with Graffitia now!

 

[FeylGD]

On 2/7/2020 at 9:26 AM, Lacky said:

Can we say that this is one of the best GD records in terms of production?
The quality of every instrument is just amazing. 
I was scared before FOAFM came out, but now you deserve my compliments, Butch Walker. 
Anyway, they have renewed their sound without changing it radically. 
My top 3: Teenage, Stab & Graffitia, but just because I've heard to the first singles too much, Father of all deserves a place in this chart.
Oh yeah is the only one I'd like to change in this record, but it's not a good problem 😎

Best produced Green Day album since Warning. AI, 21st CB and Trilogy would sound absolutely mental with FOAMF quality.

[ElainaxMarie]

Personally, I dislike it. It's the first Green Day album I truly disliked, rather than just individual songs. I do love Oh Yeah!, Junkies On A High, Take The Money and Crawl, and Sugar Youth. Everything else is truly unbearable to me.

Maybe I need to listen to it more, like my father recommended! And I'm simply grateful for yet another album by my favorite band. They don't give a shit about what the audience wants, which is so punk to me! Love them no matter what.

[Billie_Joe_Legstrong]

TBH Father of all feels a lot like Dos mixed with Foxboro Hot Tubs. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. But The Lp seems like a waste of the 12 inch format given the albums length. If I'm not mistaken 20 minutes can fit on one side. I feel like this album would have suited a 7 inch release to be completely honest. Again i could be speaking completely out of turn here. But the TL:DR is this is a fantastic homage to Foxboro Hot Tubs under the Green Day name.  

[Christian's Inferno!]

43 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said:

Well, I'm pretty much the definition of a trilogy hater (though I'd prefer to say substantive critic) and generally a pre-trilogy purist, BUT all my problems with the trilogy aside, the main issue for me at the time was simple them shoving three full length albums down our throats, when there was absolutely no need for it. Releasing one full-length album instead would have been a no-brainer to most people and would infinitely have increased the trilogy's appeal to me.

FOAM on the other hand, while you can like it or dislike it (I think it's pretty alright actually) is an incredibly short, sweet and fun album. That being the case, how can this possibly be the worst thing Green Day has ever put out? It may not be to everyone's taste, but how in heaven's name is it triggering some people so much that they're giving 0/10 reviews on Metacritic? It would seem to me the album should offer at least something for everyone, even if you're not a fan of the greater package. I personally despise FRA, but some other songs on the album are quite enjoyable. I don't know, the outrage boggles my mind too, really...

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Also I'll admit it, I'm officially in love with Graffitia now!

 

I can definitely see why people might consider this the worst GD album if they really like all the other GD albums and find this a bit disappointing. I mean I consider this to be one of their weaker albums even if I like it overall. I don't get the people giving this a 0 though. First of all, giving a 0/10 to almost any album seems almost pointless to me. Unless an album fails in literally every aspect, no album deserves a 0/10 and it seems a bit pointless to give them a 0. Secondly, this album definitely doesn't fall into an album that fails at everything, no matter what your opinion is. People on metacritic will give a 0 to anything they dislike, it's unbelievable. We get it, you're butthurt that a band you like made something different but god, people need to think a bit more critically

[greenalert997x]

Shit. 'Take The Money And Crowl' sounds like the chorus of 'Gunga Din' by The Libertines

That's kind of a rip-off 😕 maybe it was unintentional and they don't know that song 

[IrelandCalling]

1 hour ago, That Dude said:

This album isn't experimental enough for you?  

Okay.  

Next album will be the real game changer.  

Billie - Drums.  

Mike - guitar, some lead vocals, main song writer 

Tre - Lead vocals, bass, songwriter  

Every song is 12 minutes or longer.  

absolutely no rock or pop songs at all.   Only a strange insanity of Jazz, K-Pop, anti-music and Danger Music.   

The song won't have titles.   

The album won't have artwork.  

You just grab the blank CDR from the shelf and pay 49.93 for it.   

 

 

Methinks that was indeed the original format and structure of this era. Original title, from in the know sources, to reflect the above was: "Father Of All Mindf*cks".

 

[AmyxLongview]

I'm really digging this album. Even my initial least favorites are starting to grow on me (Stab You in the Heart, Meet Me On the Roof). And it actually doesn't feel as short as I was expecting it to.

[St. Jonny]

If it had say six more tracks, everybody who wants it longer would say its too long. I think it is awesome. You really don't get bored with it. Can't stop spinning it, very few things I don't like about it, especially in comparison to the other shit that is coming out nowadays. Still proud they can still write a record unlike 99.9% of bands out there, especially from their era. Still working and creating, it's not like its possible to please most people these days let alone everybody as a whole.

[Beerjeezus]

3 minutes ago, St. Jonny said:

If it had say six more tracks, everybody who wants it longer would say its too long. I think it is awesome. You really don't get bored with it. Can't stop spinning it, very few things I don't like about it, especially in comparison to the other shit that is coming out nowadays. Still proud they can still write a record unlike 99.9% of bands out there, especially from their era. Still working and creating, it's not like its possible to please most people these days let alone everybody as a whole.

Yeah this length leaves you wanting more and that's better than feeling like you've had enough

[Hermione]

I wish b sides were still a thing. Could have a snappy short album and a few more songs for those craving them that way.

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

So I've listened to the album more than a few times now and here's my thoughts (bear in mind I'm one of the older members of the forum which might explain some of the comments - ie I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s):

1. Father of All: I really didn't like this track in the beginning but since hearing it in Seville live I really like it.

2. Fire, Ready, Aim: I'm one of the weirdos that's always liked this track!

3. Oh Yeah: I like this track but I really don't like the "Oh Yeah" part (maybe it's because I grew up with Gary Glitter's music and one of my best friends at the time - well, her sister had some thing going on with him  )

4. Meet me on the roof: Love this track.

5. I was teenage teenager: ouch - glam rock. Reminds me of snotty kids in school discos and youth clubs. It's OK but I'm struggling to get past my reservations and what I associate it with).

6. Stab you in the heart: Really like this track too.

7. Sugar Youth: Like this one too.

8. Junkies on a High - don't know if this one will ever grow on me.

9. Take the money and crawl: Quite like this one.

10. Grafitia: I like this but it reminds me of going to the disco (or just pre-disco) when I was 16/17 and us girls would go to dance, pile our handbags up and form a circle around them to dance but when the music kind of stops and slows down everyone looks stupid and waits for it to start up again  I don't hate it but I just can't stop thinking about the image it gives me!

I don't love or hate this album but think it will probably always be 13th on my list of GD faves. Still growing on me though.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

I think it’s also cool to have these 10 songs now and a recharge of 7 extra songs in a few months  Gives you time to digest the new music and crave for more  

[realDonaldTrump]

1 minute ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

So I've listened to the album more than a few times now and here's my thoughts (bear in mind I'm one of the older members of the forum which might explain some of the comments - ie I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s):

1. Father of All: I really didn't like this track in the beginning but since hearing it in Seville live I really like it.

2. Fire, Ready, Aim: I'm one of the weirdos that's always liked this track!

3. Oh Yeah: I like this track but I really don't like the "Oh Yeah" part (maybe it's because I grew up with Gary Glitter's music and one of my best friends at the time - well, her sister had some thing going on with him  )

4. Meet me on the roof: Love this track.

5. I was teenage teenager: ouch - glam rock. Reminds me of snotty kids in school discos and youth clubs. It's OK but I'm struggling to get past my reservations and what I associate it with).

6. Stab you in the heart: Really like this track too.

7. Sugar Youth: Like this one too.

8. Junkies on a High - don't know if this one will ever grow on me.

9. Take the money and crawl: Quite like this one.

10. Grafitia: I like this but it reminds me of going to the disco (or just pre-disco) when I was 16/17 and us girls would go to dance, pile our handbags up and form a circle around them to dance but when the music kind of stops and slows down everyone looks stupid and waits for it to start up again  I don't hate it but I just can't stop thinking about the image it gives me!

I don't love or hate this album but think it will probably always be 13th on my list of GD faves. Still growing on me though.

was your best friends sister 9 years old?

[The Grohl]

I think I would've like maybe just one more song on the record. And some of the songs need to be a bit longer or not end so abruptly. It feels like Sugar Youth just cuts off right as it's getting good!

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

Something else is how dark the lyrics to this album are covered up by happy tunes. For instance:

"Rock n roll tragedy, I think the next one could be me, heaven's my rival, I sing in revelry"

4 minutes ago, ImNotInGreenDaydummy said:

was your best friends sister 9 years old?

no but too young (and paedophilia isn't a joke)

[madafaka]

A Green Day era has never felt this sellout to me. They don't even seem confident in it - especially Billie Joe, who is acting so strange lately...

The album itself is forgettable at best, with a few redeeming moments.

The only two times I've felt excited yet (not counting the MOOTIK shenanigans) was hearing Graffitia and watching their MTV World Stage performance. All the other songs and live performances are mediocre at best. They need to get their shit together for the next one, seriously. We need good Green Day back!

[Beerjeezus]

6 minutes ago, madafaka said:

A Green Day era has never felt this sellout to me. They don't even seem confident in it - especially Billie Joe, who is acting so strange lately...

The album itself is forgettable at best, with a few redeeming moments.

The only two times I've felt excited yet (not counting the MOOTIK shenanigans) was hearing Graffitia and watching their MTV World Stage performance. All the other songs and live performances are mediocre at best. They need to get their shit together for the next one, seriously. We need good Green Day back!

Out of curiosity, have you been around for the trilogy and what was your opinion on it? I'd say it's somewhat comparable thanks to the way it was promoted. 

I agree this is their most commercial era and there are things I can't get over - a certain tour I won't name - but as I enjoy the album very much, it's easier to overlook the cringy promotion. I thought the performances last year were amazing, this year not so much. They're not bad but it seems Billie is struggling with his vocals again.

[Lenny]

4 hours ago, Bakabanas said:

I agree. However, I think ARTV's score was the highest of those youtubers, which is still less positive than for most of us here. Which, in general, is kinda disappointing. I want this album to be appreciated for what it is. Right now it's an 8.4/10 for me. Well, I guess we will see? FOAM could be remembered as a good/great album in a few years. It somewhat happened with the Trilogy. 🤔

I think its a 7

[Bakabanas]

6 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

I think its a 7

Haha I calculated it by adding all songs scores and dividing by 10, so 84/10=8.4. But it is too fucking short, it needs 12 songs, so, if divided by 12, 84/12=7 exactly

[Lenny]

Just now, Bakabanas said:

Haha I calculated it by adding all songs scores and dividing by 10, so 84/10=8.4. But it is too fucking short, it needs 12 songs, so, if divided by 12, 84/12=7 exactly

I did the same /10