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[Billie Joes Eyelids]

3 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

It seems to me that you guys are reading way too much into a couple of performances where Billie’s voice was a little underperforming. The second half of the show sounds definitely better, but I don’t see anything dramatic in the first four songs. Oh yeah! is still a little raw and was not perfectly executed, but they have time to find the right arrangement.
I hope to see the whole record live, and I think this is the music they want to record and play today. Father of all is with Bang Bang the best live song they have wrote in a really long time. 

Regarding the poster I am really surprised, I really don’t see anything offensive there. It’s a joke, what is the problem there? Making fun of what today occupies all the fucking charts and say “we are different”? Really, why so serious? 

I have genuine concerns about his voice long term, not just a few performances. He had issues with it during the Rev Rad era, then it’s sounded pretty good again back in the fall, and now he’s back to sounding off. It could be a hearing issue because he often sounds pitchy. Also he sometimes sounds like he’s really straining his vocals. The reason I was surprised by everyone’s reaction to the Ellen performance yesterday was that it’s like people were just now hearing his voice issues and to me they weren’t even as bad as the AMA’s and the NHL performance. Those were just so off. Not trying to be negative, just realistic. Singers often have these issues at his age. Someone I message recently pointed out that it happened with Springsteen, Vedder, and Bono but they all somehow turned it around. Billie needs to consult with a vocal coach and figure out what to fix if he wants to continue to be able to sing and perform well into old age.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

5 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

I have genuine concerns about his voice long term, not just a few performances. He had issues with it during the Rev Rad era, then it’s sounded pretty good again back in the fall, and now he’s back to sounding off. It could be a hearing issue because he often sounds pitchy. Also he sometimes sounds like he’s really straining his vocals. The reason I was surprised by everyone’s reaction to the Ellen performance yesterday was that it’s like people were just now hearing his voice issues and to me they weren’t even as bad as the AMA’s and the NHL performance. Those were just so off. Not trying to be negative, just realistic. Singers often have these issues at his age. Someone I message recently pointed out that it happened with Springsteen, Vedder, and Bono but they all somehow turned it around. Billie needs to consult with a vocal coach and figure out what to fix if he wants to continue to be able to sing and perform well into old age.

I mean he’s heading towards 50, he’s not gonna perform like a 30 years old anymore for sure. But this era gave us some of the best lyrical performances from Billie in a long time. He’s a professional and I am confident he is preparing for this tour in a professional way. I really don’t see anything that concerning. 

[Aidana]

2 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

I have genuine concerns about his voice long term, not just a few performances. He had issues with it during the Rev Rad era, then it’s sounded pretty good again back in the fall, and now he’s back to sounding off. It could be a hearing issue because he often sounds pitchy. Also he sometimes sounds like he’s really straining his vocals. The reason I was surprised by everyone’s reaction to the Ellen performance yesterday was that it’s like people were just now hearing his voice issues and to me they weren’t even as bad as the AMA’s and the NHL performance. Those were just so off. Not trying to be negative, just realistic. Singers often have these issues at his age. Someone I message recently pointed out that it happened with Springsteen, Vedder, and Bono but they all somehow turned it around. Billie needs to consult with a vocal coach and figure out what to fix if he wants to continue to be able to sing and perform well into old age.

It’s just age taking its toll plus cigarettes and other stuff he has consumed. 

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

5 minutes ago, Aidana Shyngysbayeva said:

It’s just age taking its toll plus cigarettes and other stuff he has consumed. 

I get that, but the question isn’t the cause. It’s whether he’ll work on improving it or if it’ll just keep getting worse. 

[Sanity Loan]

9 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

I don't think it's lack of confidence. I think they realize that their new stuff will never get a crowd going like the hits. Billie saw that on the Trilogy tour where the crowds went silent for new music.

You just described no confidence.

[DookieLukie]

10 minutes ago, Matt. said:

You just described no confidence.

I think they are confident in their music but realize that most people who go to their shows only know the hits.

[Beerjeezus]

2 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

I get that, but the question isn’t the cause. It’s whether he’ll work on improving it or if it’ll just keep getting worse. 

He better try to improve it. I didn't really mind at the revrad shows, but I don't want this to go on to the point where we'd just watch him struggle

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Everything time Billie is singing FOAM I always hope he's gonna use his real voice. I'm sure the live version would be 10x better if he didn't try to sing the verse in a girly voice.

[DookieLukie]

Surprised this wasn't uploaded to YouTube after the live stream.

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

9 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

He better try to improve it. I didn't really mind at the revrad shows, but I don't want this to go on to the point where we'd just watch him struggle

I’m just picturing all of the band and management drawing straws on who has to confront him on it.

[jetsrule128]

8 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Surprised this wasn't uploaded to YouTube after the live stream.

It was I heart radio keeps deleting it 

[JardyOfSuburbia]

I was at work last night and had to jump in and out of the performance. From what I heard I really didn't think Billie sounded as bad as some people are saying. Thought he sounded great during Minority especially. I did see he forgot the words to Bang Bang, but that'll happen. Didn't he mention in some interview how he might need a teleprompter?

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

7 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

I’m just picturing all of the band and management drawing straws on who has to confront him on it.

Why? 😄 Maybe I am missing something, but why you believe he’s not working on his voice/he’s not conscious about how he performs? 

[DookieLukie]

4 minutes ago, jetsrule128 said:

It was I heart radio keeps deleting it 

I mean officially by the band.

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

2 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Why? 😄 Maybe I am missing something, but why you believe he’s not working on his voice/he’s not conscious about how he performs? 

We don’t know that he is. We don’t know if he listens to and critiques his own performances or chooses to be in denial. Hence the comment that I hope he’s working on it.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

1 minute ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

We don’t know that he is. We don’t know if he listens to and critiques his own performances or chooses to be in denial. Hence the comment that I hope he’s working on it.

Alright, I just like to think about the best option unless proven otherwise, and was wondering if something I missed happened   

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

6 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

I mean officially by the band.

Hmmm interesting 

[killjoywhatsername]

On the setlist thing, given how they keep talking about in interviews how everyone only dances to the hits (I think Mike said some people in a crowd didnt know She) I don’t see the setlist changing much. I wish it would but I think the guys are too self conscious to play deep cuts. Scattered was great to hear but I wish they would throw fans a bone here or there. I’ve been thinking about adding a second hella mega concert to my travels because I like FOAM so much but this setlist stuff has me questioning it. 

[Miko]

Regarding Billie's singing in general: Nothing lasts forever and usually bands that have been playing for so long (Bon Jovi, Metallica etc) lower their guitars and basses and cut all unnecessary screams and shouts so singing would be easier. This will be really interesting to see how will Green Day perfom next 10 years since Billie's voice keeps on going higher and higher and they just played Welcome to Paradise again in E Standard. It's not like it's impossible for them to sing Welcome to Paradise in higher tune, but I just keep getting amazed of it. Whatever issues Billie Joe might experience right now or in the future regarding his singing ability, he better fix it if he can because I wanna see this band perfom when they're in their sixties.

Regarding FOAM release party show: It was decent, hit-or-miss show. Only proper highlight was Welcome to Paradise bridge section where I could legit first time ever hear each note that Mike played and it was the best sounding bridge I've ever heard. Oh Yeah! was still a mess but I think that song just needs more playing and it will eventually sound better. If those ah-ah-ahs wont work live, hopefully they just ditch them completely, it's not like that they are needed to begin with in live version. Bang Bang was mostly good but there were terrible parts like Billie running out of breath and sounding exhausted. Jesus of Suburbia and American Idiot are both songs that at this point I'm not in any way excited to hear anymore and I wish they would just ditch them completely. Father of All sounded strange, but it was ok perfomance still.

Disappointing that they didn't play any non-single song from the album but maybe in Hella Mega Tour then.

 

 

[localinsomniac]

7 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Hoped that too, seems to be a trend unfortunately. Seems like they wanted to give the people there more of a mini concert, but I don’t get that. I would have preferred to hear the whole FOAM.  
Unfortunately I am not sure if the band ever played a record in full except 21CB (I mean, for a release party or during a cycle concert, not talking about Dookie of course). 
I think they’ll play more on the tour tho, Mikes’s comment on Twitter seemed promising. 

I'm way late to this party. Irving Plaza, 2004

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/green-day/2004/irving-plaza-new-york-ny-53d6779d.html

[CherryBombs&Gasoline]

Hate to say it, but that performance wasn't good at all. I mean musically it was fine but the singing... It was just one performance though, they sounded great and confident at the MTV show and during most other performances last year. So I wouldn't be too worried at this point. 

[gaslight13]

2 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

He better try to improve it. I didn't really mind at the revrad shows, but I don't want this to go on to the point where we'd just watch him struggle

3 of my top 5 favorite artists (he'll be the 4th) have hit points in their career (usually around 40-50yrs old or making a style change) where they have a bad year or two where they're struggling with their vocals. But all of them worked it out and sound just fine now. He's still got a lot of ability just some consistency problems. I'm fairly confident that he'll work through it, we just might need to bear with him from time to time. Honestly, he sounds pretty damn good considering he still smokes and drinks, is nearing 50, and has really challenged his voice with a few songs from this album and Rev Rad. It's like he's choosing the hardest path possible. 

[Beyza]

2 hours ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

I get that, but the question isn’t the cause. It’s whether he’ll work on improving it or if it’ll just keep getting worse. 

If he works on improving, it won’t get worse could get even better. I think he actually worked in this album, those high notes and falsettos are not easy to do for his vocal range. If the singer’s technique is good enough and takes care of his voice well, his voice doesn’t age easily. When voice is aged, the vocals get dirty so doesn’t sound clean and smooth enough. You can notice that clearly by comparing some aged singers old and new performances 

[Lenny]

6 hours ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said:

It could be a hearing issue because he often sounds pitchy. 

yes could be unable to hear himself in the environment he's playing in. Any singer who's performed live has encountered this and it can be scary lol been there once. Made sure to have a chat with the soundmen before the show after that and once had my own guy. 

the other hearing issue could be his actual hearing health. They played lots of shows with no protection. I havent played nearly as many shows and one of my ears is fucked. 

[jengd]

I am really behind but have just watched the best vid I could find on YouTube of this and it was a little all over the place.  I don’t think it was as bad as some are saying, I played it on tv through a soundbox,  but I think Billie is going to have to think about that screaming,  I thought it almost made him hoarse for a few minutes.  Having said all the the video was a mess, it jumped and repeated, Scattered sounded great and then it jumped through Dancing With Myself so am hoping iheart release a decent version.  Have to say though, Oh Yeah sounded out of place, didn’t seem like the same band!  If that’s down to a backing track, then drop it.