Platypus2000 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Xmas Time Of The Year is better than all three songs. That’s how bad they are. 😂😂 1 hour ago, Khaleesi. said: The first time I listened to it, I wasn’t a fan. I’ve given it a few tries now though and I’m liking it much more. This seems to be a pattern for this album... I think I end up being disappointed on the first listen for all these singles because I’m expecting something completely different. These songs don’t sound like green day, so my initial reaction is always “wtf?” I think I need to go into the rest of this album with zero expectations. It’s probably not going to sound like GD so I should stop assuming it will. I’ll think I’ll enjoy it a lot more if I don’t head into it expecting a “Green Day” album They shouldn’t be releasing it under the name “Green Day” then. If you go into a Green Day expecting it not to sound like Green Day then what’s the point? Everyone shifting their standards because they’re desperate to like it. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, ANTI said: the lyrics of Father of All are a little under-appreciated too, I think his approach to talking about money and self-destruction while being aware of him being a part of that modern culture and feeding into it (when talking about the poison and the bed of blood and money) brings back a little the self-depricating tone in their past lyrics that I love so much, and I liked the subtle nods to climate change to make it timely (like the references of smoke and the sun). Yeah, same. I really like FOA’s lyrics too. I think they may not be so straightforward but still has a cool meaning deep down if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarplayer015 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Not a fan of this song, but I'm curious how it's going to sound live.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Beyza said: Yeah, same. I really like FOA’s lyrics too. I think they may not be so straightforward but still has a cool meaning deep down if you think about it. It definitely sounds like it’s directed at Warner, that they’re the Father of All Motherfuckers and all they care about is money!!! This is their last album on their contract and this is their way of saying, “Fuck you, we’re out!!!!” This could also explain why they never mention in interviews what FOAM truly means. They’re not going to say it publicly and risk backlash!!!! The best way to do it is cryptically in a song!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PursuitOfEpicness Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 When I think about how I’m afraid of the production just because I don’t trust Butch Walker, I think back to how much I trusted Rob Cavallo and what happened with the Trilogy. I guess I won’t judge till I hear it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I really doubt they play Oh Yeah live. If they never really played Misery or Nightlife, I doubt they play it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, PursuitOfEpicness said: When I think about how I’m afraid of the production just because I don’t trust Butch Walker, I think back to how much I trusted Rob Cavallo and what happened with the Trilogy. I guess I won’t judge till I hear it all! The Trilogy would’ve been much more popular if the iHeart Incident and Billie’s rehab never happened! They would’ve been around to promote it much much better!!!! Just now, Taste said: I really doubt they play Oh Yeah live. If they never really played Misery or Nightlife, I doubt they play it Yeah but Oh Yeah is a single. Misery and Nightlife were album filler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killjoywhatsername Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I’m curious to see what happens when Green Day signs to Warner again. It feels like a coping mechanism of the fandom. I’ve been going back and forth on the song. I loved it when it first came out, now I’m kind of meh on it and I think I blame the video. Going after social media is such a “ok boomer” take and is so tired to me. I also think if it weren’t for the lyrics I wouldn’t have liked this song half as much. RevRad I was so excited to listen to the rest of the album, this era doesn’t have me nearly as excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: The Trilogy would’ve been much more popular if the iHeart Incident and Billie’s rehab never happened! They would’ve been around to promote it much much better!!!! Yeah but Oh Yeah is a single. Misery and Nightlife were album filler It's too slow tho. They still haven't played FRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: Fire Ready Aim is obviously the weakest of the three and I understand why. Now don’t get me wrong, I like the song, but to me it seems to be a rush job, probably because the NHL and/or NBC approached them and probably said, “We’d like you to write a theme song for Wednesday night Hockey and we need the song by (insert date).” I really don’t think FRA was written specifically for NHL, but I do agree it is the weakest of the three by a margin. That said, now that I have listened to the three song on a row a few times, every time FRA starts I start to shake my head and grow a big smile It’s a really fun song to listen to for me. Going back on Oh Yeah!, this is me every time the oh yeah bridge starts 😅 1 minute ago, Taste said: It's too slow tho. They still haven't played FRA I don't think it's too slow to be played live, it would actually be one of those perfect songs to interact with the audience and start a stadium wide choir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaleesi. Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Platypus2000 said: Xmas Time Of The Year is better than all three songs. That’s how bad they are. 😂😂 They shouldn’t be releasing it under the name “Green Day” then. If you go into a Green Day expecting it not to sound like Green Day then what’s the point? Everyone shifting their standards because they’re desperate to like it. Sad. Because bands evolve and their sound changes? It’s not typical “green day” sound because they’re trying something new. It’s still music that I enjoy because I listen to music outside of Green Day. I’m not desperate or sad. Just not a sour little bitch 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: I really don’t think FRA was written specifically for NHL, but I do agree it is the weakest of the three by a margin. That said, now that I have listened to the three song on a row a few times, every time FRA starts I start to shake my head and grow a big smile It’s a really fun song to listen to for me. Going back on Oh Yeah!, this is me every time the oh yeah bridge starts 😅 I don't think it's too slow to be played live, it would actually be one of those perfect songs to interact with the audience and start a stadium wide choir I really don't think it's that kinda song. Or at least very close to the quality of BOBD. It's just not very good imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Taste said: I really don't think it's that kinda song. At least not even close to the quality of BOBD. It's just not very good imo The "oh yeah" bits seems to be scientifically engineered to have that kind of reaction in an arena to me, and I think they will really do the work 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 So I've had time to process the song and listen to it with my expectations and biases removed. At first I went into shock this song was just so removed from what I was expecting or what I really wanted. I mentioned after first listen I liked elements of the song but wasn't sure about the song as a whole. I processed it now and I think it's a well written song. I like the lyrics and can relate to them. I'm a Joan Jett fan so the Oh Yeah part is awesome and maybe not as obnoxious to me as it is to other people. There's not a lot of guitars but I think the vocals have a lot more space in the song and mix and the vocal phrasing is awesome. The bass playing is awesome as well. The drums are just playing as somewhat of a slow heartbeat. I think for a slow song it has this huge energy but it's contained within border and boundaries, that being what Tre is playing. It's a different song and I'm excited for them to be able to get away with doing whatever they want. It's hard to be at GD's level at get away with that. This does fall in line with the trends of modern music but I think the difference here is the quality of songwriting. Viewing this as a songwriter this is a well crafted song imo. It's different and falls short of my personal expectations and is something outside of what I enjoy but keeping the open mind of a songwriter that wants no limits for their own music I respect the risk taken by the band. The song sort of shows to me that Swmrs has been an influence on the band. Joe Strummer was another musician that was influenced by newer movements as he continued through his career. It keeps you fresh. As for those who may disagree or just in their own opinion don't like the song I 100% respect your opinion and understand why. As I mentioned this song put me into shock. For me I seemed to have enjoyed that shock. I know for others it's not that enjoyable. 23 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: 24 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: I really don’t think FRA was written specifically for NHL Kick the dog when the whistle blows Not sure what's going on with quoting but there seems to be an issue where you can't edit properly and seems like I quoted the person twice. If a mod can log this as a bug for us to resolve when I buy the forum that would be appreciated. I promise to all you GDC'ers I'll fix the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Oh Yeah is the perfect song to play live and get the crowd into it. Billie: YEAH, OH YEAH! C’MON!!!! Crowd: YEAH, OH YEAH!! Billie: SAY HEEEEEEEYYYYYY-OHHHHHH!!!! Crowd: HEEEEEYYYYYY-OHHHHH!!! Another wacky thought just popped into my head. What if at the show where they play Oh Yeah for the first time, Joan Jett shows up as a surprise guest?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sheenius said: So I've had time to process the song and listen to it with my expectations and biases removed. At first I went into shock this song was just so removed from what I was expecting or what I really wanted. I mentioned after first listen I liked elements of the song but wasn't sure about the song as a whole. I processed it now and I think it's a well written song. I like the lyrics and can relate to them. I'm a Joan Jett fan so the Oh Yeah part is awesome and maybe not as obnoxious to me as it is to other people. There's not a lot of guitars but I think the vocals have a lot more space in the song and mix and the vocal phrasing is awesome. The bass playing is awesome as well. The drums are just playing as somewhat of a slow heartbeat. I think for a slow song it has this huge energy but it's contained within border and boundaries, that being what Tre is playing. It's a different song and I'm excited for them to be able to get away with doing whatever they want. It's hard to be at GD's level at get away with that. This does fall in line with the trends of modern music but I think the difference here is the quality of songwriting. Viewing this as a songwriter this is a well crafted song imo. It's different and falls short of my personal expectations and is something outside of what I enjoy but keeping the open mind of a songwriter that wants no limits for their own music I respect the risk taken by the band. The song sort of shows to me that Swmrs has been an influence on the band. Joe Strummer was another musician that was influenced by newer movements as he continued through his career. It keeps you fresh. As for those who may disagree or just in their own opinion don't like the song I 100% respect your opinion and understand why. As I mentioned this song put me into shock. For me I seemed to have enjoyed that shock. I know for others it's not that enjoyable. Thank, you expressed with better words and from a different perspective what I have been trying to say in the last few pages (and hours, gosh I’m such a nerd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: It definitely sounds like it’s directed at Warner, that they’re the Father of All Motherfuckers and all they care about is money!!! This is their last album on their contract and this is their way of saying, “Fuck you, we’re out!!!!” This could also explain why they never mention in interviews what FOAM truly means. They’re not going to say it publicly and risk backlash!!!! The best way to do it is cryptically in a song!!! They said could stay in the label depending on what they’ll come up with. I think it’s not so easy for them to suddenly be independent after all of these years so it could be a tough process for them but of course we can’t know what’s exactly going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: Another wacky thought just popped into my head. What if at the show where they play Oh Yeah for the first time, Joan Jett shows up as a surprise guest?!?!?!? I would buy that 100 times 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyOfSuburbia Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Joe. said: Oh Yeah is generic, lazy and lacking depth. Its a bad choice for a single. Doesn't that make it a perfect choice for a single, then? I feel like "generic" is sadly what gets more attention and mainstream play. This song definitely fits into the Hella Mega Tour repertoire. Reminds me of newer Fallout Boy (from what I've heard of them). I also get Weezer's Black Album vibes where they basically made a pop album to make a pop album. I still enjoy the song. This era is weird to me, but I'm into whatever they decide to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Platypus2000 said: Xmas Time Of The Year is better than all three songs. That’s how bad they are. 😂😂 They shouldn’t be releasing it under the name “Green Day” then. If you go into a Green Day expecting it not to sound like Green Day then what’s the point? Everyone shifting their standards because they’re desperate to like it. Sad. or we actually like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, JardyOfSuburbia said: Doesn't that make it a perfect choice for a single, then? I feel like "generic" is sadly what gets more attention and mainstream play. This song definitely fits into the Hella Mega Tour repertoire. Reminds me of newer Fallout Boy (from what I've heard of them). I also get Weezer's Black Album vibes where they basically made a pop album to make a pop album. I still enjoy the song. This era is weird to me, but I'm into whatever they decide to do. I don't think so no, because its appealing to a slim number of people. Traditional pop fans will probably ignore it because its Green Day, a lot of Green Day fans will listen a few times, dislike it and not listen again, and then you've got the more hardcore and pop loving Green Day fans who'll enjoy it. Personally bands like Green Day trying to go pop is a bit lose/lose, as blink found out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 When Green Day released a Fallout Boy song, will Fallout Boy now release a Green Day song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe. said: I don't think so no, because its appealing to a slim number of people. Traditional pop fans will probably ignore it because its Green Day, a lot of Green Day fans will listen a few times, dislike it and not listen again, and then you've got the more hardcore and pop loving Green Day fans who'll enjoy it. Personally bands like Green Day trying to go pop is a bit lose/lose, as blink found out good thing Green Day isn't going pop.... Just now, Beerjeezus said: When Green Day released a Fallout Boy song, will Fallout Boy now release a Green Day song? Green Day released a Green Day song, I hope we get a new Fall Out Boy song soon and a new Weezer song too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Joe. said: I don't think so no, because its appealing to a slim number of people. Not too sure about that. This has already been more well received in my local area than FOAMF. The radio debuted it right away and it's in the rotation. I had to wait weeks for FOAMF to be added to the rotation. I know it's going to be overplayed because of it's dynamic with the other songs in the rotation. But that's this scene here. May not be the same everywhere. This is a very different song so a mixed reception is completely normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Eric said: good thing Green Day isn't going pop.... Green Day released a Green Day song, I hope we get a new Fall Out Boy song soon and a new Weezer song too Green Day accidentally released what FOB was planning to do. It's not a big deal because they're just two divisions of the same company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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