"Oh Yeah!" Single

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

4 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

It could also mean that everybody has a SCAR(the gun).

Ah, didn’t know that was a thing, interesting! That would change the meaning of the whole thing. When a GD song has this multiple layers of interpretation, it’s always a sign of the good writing quality (imho). 

[Platypus2000]

27 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Lol, nope. You are lazy if you stop only because the music doesn’t fit your usual genre expectations. 

Don’t talk to me about genre expectation. I like Nightlife, Brutal Love, Kill The DJ and The Network stuff. It’s not a genre issue. It’s just a crap song issue 😂😂😂

24 minutes ago, Thatsername said:

You know the wonderful thing about music is that it speaks to us in very different ways because we're all individuals with very different histories and no song will ever have the same meaning for each and every one of us. It doesn't even matter what Billie tried to tell us with it because I'm sure the message I read into it is very different than Billie's own message. I couldn't connect to FOAM or FRA at all but I can connect to this one a lot on a level I can't even explain, it's like my head is saying NO but my heart is saying OH YEAH 🤣 So I understand why people don't like the song, but I think you should also understand that other people can relate to it.

I love music! I’m very happy to interpret songs to as many different meanings as us as fans can manage. But only songs that deserve reading into. You can’t tell me that Billie thought about this song as a hidden subliminal message. The lyrics are so simple. 😂😂 RevRad has some of the best, thought provoking lyrics Billie has ever written. It’s just sad to see how lazy Billie has got over 3-4 years.

[Beerjeezus]

I liked the old green day before they got mainstream 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

10 minutes ago, Platypus2000 said:

Don’t talk to me about genre expectation. I like Nightlife, Brutal Love, Kill The DJ and The Network stuff. It’s not a genre issue. It’s just a crap song issue 😂😂😂

You see, if you think Nightlife and Kill the DJ have a better writing and execution than this song I believe you are terribly wrong. But I don’t assume to have an absolute truth on my side and act like an edgy genius trying to demonstrate how crappy is your music taste. 

[UNICORN VOMIT]

4 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

You see, if you think Nightlife and Kill the DJ have a better writing and execution than this song I believe you are terribly wrong. But I don’t assume to have an absolute truth on my side and act like an edgy genius trying to demonstrate how crappy is your music taste. 

Im watching the tennis & its hard reading your posts on the side as all I can see is BJ rooting a unicorn😂

[Platypus2000]

3 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

You see, if you think Nightlife and Kill the DJ have a better writing and execution than this song I believe you are terribly wrong. But I don’t assume to have an absolute truth on my side and act like an edgy genius trying to demonstrate how crappy is your music taste. 

It’s a shame you assume my whole music taste is crap on the basis of liking two GD songs that actually have an interesting guitar, bass and vocal execution compared “Oh Yeah!” (Even the name makes me cringe). Didn’t think GD had blind toxic fanboys but here we are 😂

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

5 minutes ago, Platypus2000 said:

It’s a shame you assume my whole music taste is crap on the basis of liking two GD songs that actually have an interesting guitar, bass and vocal execution compared “Oh Yeah!” (Even the name makes me cringe). Didn’t think GD had blind toxic fanboys but here we are 😂

I guess you totally missed the whole point of my post since I was trying to tell you I don’t believe your music taste is crappy, and I also do like the songs you mentioned. That’s what your are doing assuming your music taste is an absolute truth and this song is shit by nature.
Which is sad, cause this is exactly what rock purists have always done towards Gd music since day 1, and I naively hoped to not see this that much within this community. 

5 minutes ago, UNICORN VOMIT said:

Im watching the tennis & its hard reading your posts on the side as all I can see is BJ rooting a unicorn😂

That’s the desired effect, glad to hear this  

[Beyza]

2 hours ago, Hermione said:

Goddamn the video is deleted from youtube. But Billie is used to it :

https://5arahnade.tumblr.com/post/131398023667/heart-like-a-hand-grenade-im-ready-to-take

That was pretty gold, everyone should watch it I think lol

 

[UNICORN VOMIT]

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1 minute ago, Beyza said:

That was pretty gold, everyone should watch it I think lol

 

That's f********* hilarious

4 minutes ago, Beyza said:

That was pretty gold, everyone should watch it I think lol

 

@Chin for a Day 

This was our first message this morning,

Me: This song sux ..... but BJ is Hawt🤣

[Joe.]

1 hour ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Lol, nope. You are lazy if you stop only because the music doesn’t fit your usual genre expectations. 

It's nothing to do with genre expectations (?), I don't listen to pop but I can tell objectively what's good and what's not. Oh Yeah isn't a good song, doesn't mean you can't like it but it is super generic of the lazy side of pop. The little rise and fall of the vocals at the end of "star" in the chorus is pretty generic, so not only are Green Day releasing a pop song, but its not even fresh or interesting.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

21 minutes ago, Joe. said:

I don't listen to pop but I can tell objectively what's good and what's not.

Wow, I wonder what the music industry is waiting for to hire you as their exclusive Deep Thought. 

There’s thousands of people out there that thinks the same as you, and also think that as an objective truth GD should have disappeared after Dookie. I imagine you would argue with them that their objective truth is actually wrong and not objective at all, and this is the same thing that is happening here. 

[MaxGD]

18 minutes ago, Joe. said:

It's nothing to do with genre expectations (?), I don't listen to pop but I can tell objectively what's good and what's not. Oh Yeah isn't a good song, doesn't mean you can't like it but it is super generic of the lazy side of pop. The little rise and fall of the vocals at the end of "star" in the chorus is pretty generic, so not only are Green Day releasing a pop song, but its not even fresh or interesting.

Maybe this side of pop rock is new for Green Day so it wasn’t them being lazy, it was them being creative. If they had rewritten dookie it would be lazy cuz we have heard that before. And no, lol, the song is bad in your opinion, opinions aren’t fact. 

[Joe.]

10 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Wow, I wonder what the music industry is waiting to hire you as their exclusive Deep Thought. 

There’s thousands of people out there that thinks the same as you, and also think that as an objective truth GD should have disappeared after Dookie. I imagine you would argue with them that their objective truth is actually wrong and not objective at all, and this is the same thing that is happening here. 

Let me rephrase what I meant, just because I don't like a genre doesn't mean I necessarily think its all shit. I don't like the 1975 but I can objectively see they're good musicians. Oh Yeah is generic, lazy and lacking depth. Its a bad choice for a single. That doesn't mean you can't like it, theres songs that are shit that I love, but it also doesn't change the fact that its a bad song.

 

Just now, MaxGD said:

Maybe this side of pop rock is new for Green Day so it wasn’t them being lazy, it was them being creative. If they had rewritten dookie it would be lazy cuz we have heard that before. And no, lol, the song is bad in your opinion, opinions aren’t fact. 

Their creativity led them to write a song which just sticks to the cliches of pop music over the last few years. Its laziness. I've been one of the biggest moaners for Green Day just redoing the same music year after year (RevRad is them sat firmly in their comfort zone and I've been calling for them to experiment for the last few years). This isn't really experimentation as they're not doing anything fresh. They've just ticked all the boxes of a stereotypical pop song rather than do something new and interesting.

Experimentation doesn't mean "We're going to make a pop album!!" it means finding new influences to affect their own sound, rather than ripping off a different one

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

13 minutes ago, Joe. said:

Let me rephrase what I meant, just because I don't like a genre doesn't mean I necessarily think its all shit. I don't like the 1975 but I can objectively see they're good musicians. Oh Yeah is generic, lazy and lacking depth. Its a bad choice for a single. That doesn't mean you can't like it, theres songs that are shit that I love, but it also doesn't change the fact that its a bad song.

 

You actually think that you have the power to determine what is objectively good and bad in music, I got the point, and I believe you are wrong 😄 I believe you consider this lazy and bad compared to other GD songs because you don’t like the different genre influences that are in here, or maybe you just don’t like it, it’s fine, but you are trying to show this as an absolute truth. What are your objective parameters to determine these lyrics are bad? What are your objective parameters to define this song writing as lazy compared to many other GD songs that could be considered by someone as total rip-offs (I don’t think so since I try to read the tribute and inspirational element, as well as the coincidental one) such as Warning, Waiting, JoS (a collage of rip-offs in that case maybe), BoBD, American Idiot... I could continue this list for pages.
You don’t like the song, and I am totally fine with it, I think it’s absolutely normal for some people to even hate this, but you don’t have an objective truth in your pockets. 

[MaxGD]

12 minutes ago, Joe. said:

Let me rephrase what I meant, just because I don't like a genre doesn't mean I necessarily think its all shit. I don't like the 1975 but I can objectively see they're good musicians. Oh Yeah is generic, lazy and lacking depth. Its a bad choice for a single. That doesn't mean you can't like it, theres songs that are shit that I love, but it also doesn't change the fact that its a bad song.

 

Their creativity led them to write a song which just sticks to the cliches of pop music over the last few years. Its laziness. I've been one of the biggest moaners for Green Day just redoing the same music year after year (RevRad is them sat firmly in their comfort zone and I've been calling for them to experiment for the last few years). This isn't really experimentation as they're not doing anything fresh. They've just ticked all the boxes of a stereotypical pop song rather than do something new and interesting.

Experimentation doesn't mean "We're going to make a pop album!!" it means finding new influences to affect their own sound, rather than ripping off a different one

I would argue it probably does fall into experimental for them. Billie has been hanging around Billie Eilish, Post Malone, Tyla, and I’m sure more popular artists in today’s pop scene. This probably lead Billie to listen to some modern music and inspired him to write oh yeah (not that Billie Eilish falls into this category of pop, but she could have shown him stuff). Experimentation means trying something new. Green Day hasn’t done a song this poppy in this style before, so it was new to them. In fact there were even live streams of the band in the studio experimenting with synth sounds in like February or March. 

[Joe.]

3 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

You actually think that you have the power to determine what is objectively good and bad in music, I got the point, and I believe you are wrong 😄 I believe you consider this lazy and bad compared to other GD songs because you don’t like the different genre influences that are in here, or maybe you just don’t like it, it’s fine, but you are trying to show this as an absolute truth. What are your objective parameters to determine these lyrics are bad? What are your objective parameters to define this song writing as lazy compared to many other GD songs that could be considered by someone as total rip-offs (I don’t think so since I try to read the tribute and inspirational element, as well as the coincidental one) such as Warning, Waiting, JoS (a collage of rip-offs in that case maybe), BoBD, American Idiot... I could continue this list for pages.
You don’t like the song, and I am totally fine with it, I think it’s absolutely normal for some people to even hate this, but you don’t have an objective truth in your pockets. 

Obviously not, but stuff like generic melodies and lack of depth of lyrics is tangible to a certain extent. 

4 minutes ago, MaxGD said:

I would argue it probably does fall into experimental for them. Billie has been hanging around Billie Eilish, Post Malone, Tyla, and I’m sure more popular artists in today’s pop scene. This probably lead Billie to listen to some modern music and inspired him to write oh yeah (not that Billie Eilish falls into this category of pop, but she could have shown him stuff). Experimentation means trying something new. Green Day hasn’t done a song this poppy in this style before, so it was new to them. In fact there were even live streams of the band in the studio experimenting with synth sounds in like February or March. 

Its nothing to do with Green Day personally, take an album like Combat Rock. Has a wide range of genres that shape The Clash's core sound, rather than just ripping off reggae or disco. Green Day have just made a pop song, rather than giving their sound a more pop spin. Thats the difference.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

2 minutes ago, Joe. said:

Obviously not, but stuff like generic melodies and lack of depth of lyrics is tangible to a certain extent. 

I honestly don’t understand how you can see a lack of depth in the lyrics, I accept that, but I don’t see how you can call this objective since many people are actually relating with them and giving different interpretations of it. 
For the melodies it’s the same thing, you call this generic, I would like to understand how this is objectively more generic than songs like RR, KYE and 99 Revolutions that reuse melodies and sounds that have been circulating in punk rock music for 40 years.

9 minutes ago, Joe. said:

Obviously not, but stuff like generic melodies and lack of depth of lyrics is tangible to a certain extent. 

Its nothing to do with Green Day personally, take an album like Combat Rock. Has a wide range of genres that shape The Clash's core sound, rather than just ripping off reggae or disco. Green Day have just made a pop song, rather than giving their sound a more pop spin. Thats the difference.

And what is the objective element that makes this just a pop song while Ivan meets GI Joes is a way of shaping the core clash sound? 

[MaxGD]

8 minutes ago, Joe. said:

Obviously not, but stuff like generic melodies and lack of depth of lyrics is tangible to a certain extent. 

Its nothing to do with Green Day personally, take an album like Combat Rock. Has a wide range of genres that shape The Clash's core sound, rather than just ripping off reggae or disco. Green Day have just made a pop song, rather than giving their sound a more pop spin. Thats the difference.

So pop songs have real bass lines, real drums, real guitar, and a garage rock feel? Yes, you are right, it does have a lot of generic pop elements in it, that doesn’t mean it automatically bad because they as Billie said “put different genres through the Green Day filter”. I totally respect whatever opinion you have on any music, but to pretend like this was laziness by the band without actually taking into account that they havnt created something like this before is just not looking at both sides of the coin. Also, a lot of pop songs from the 2010s used elements inspired by the 80s, and that’s more what I thought Green Day was doing as opposed to taking it from pop. 

[SomeNimrod97]

1 hour ago, Beyza said:

That was pretty gold, everyone should watch it I think lol

 

Never heard anything truer than from Billie himself. If you always expect more of the same, you will always be disappointed.

[Alan86]

Person1: The song is shit because I don't like it. 

Person2: No, the song is good because I like it.

Edit:

Person3: Makes joke about Person 1 and Person 2 sides of the argument. 

 

[Beyza]

2 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Ah, didn’t know that was a thing, interesting! That would change the meaning of the whole thing. When a GD song has this multiple layers of interpretation, it’s always a sign of the good writing quality (imho). 

How some people can say lyrics are meaningless I don't get honestly. It may not be so deep or something but I think even FOA has some kind of message in it although I don't really pay attention to the lyrics in songs lol

[Khaleesi.]

The first time I listened to it, I wasn’t a fan. I’ve given it a few tries now though and I’m liking it much more. This seems to be a pattern for this album... I think I end up being disappointed on the first listen for all these singles because I’m expecting something completely different. These songs don’t sound like green day, so my initial reaction is always “wtf?”  
 

I think I need to go into the rest of this album with zero expectations. It’s probably not going to sound like GD so I should stop assuming it will. I’ll think I’ll enjoy it a lot more if I don’t head into it expecting a “Green Day” album

[solongfromthestars]

This reminds me of Last of the American Girls. I expected it to get going but it never did so I was disappointed, but on a second listen I knew it wouldn't and it seemed better then. It's probably still my least favourite of the three. Excited to hear it live though. A crowd echoing the chorus will transform it.

I'd be the first to criticise if I thought the lyrics were lazy or meaningless, but they carry this song for me. There's the universally relatable interpretation that goes with the video (society's obsession with broadcasting everything for digital fame and the ignorance that causes), but I interpreted it as a commentary on fame, imposter syndrome and how people chase that even though it isn't desirable in reality.

On another note, the negativity around this era has nothing on the ¡Uno! ¡Dos! ¡Tre! or 21st Century Breakdown eras People reacting badly because they want to love new music, but can't, is nothing new.

[ANTI]

6 hours ago, RisingRedWolf said:

I have taken the time to listen to all the other songs you recommended , not sure if you care much about my opinion but you might be surprised by my answers. Here is a basic breakdown:

Thanks for taking the time to recommend these, I actually really did enjoy Old Town Road and Offence and I am just as surprised as you probably are. These two put a smile on my face and opened my eyes to the fact that it's not all samey loops on repeat. Cheers!

 

I'm so glad you actually enjoyed some songs and we could have a good discussion, totally made my day dude, thanks. I think there's beauty in every genre, so if I helped one person see this, it put a smile in my face too.

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And hey, totally not trying to be pushy here, but you seem to be more into the melodic side of music and I noticed I did some disservice to some artists I recommended, so if you're still willing to give it a chance, Tyler The Creator's See You Again uses some beautiful strings arrangements throught out the song that I think you would enjoy and Childish Gambino's Redbone takes the same afrofunk influences used in This is America, but in a much more musical way. Also think you would dig this two songs by Noname and A$AP Rocky, but to be honest, you liking Offence and Old Town Road is good enough for me.

Now, onto the new single again, listening to the song more, I do think that the song would have benefited with some bridge or solo before the third verse to change the pace a little and give it that extra push. But, as the other say, I also think the lyrics are the best of the three, Billie's writing is usually better when he focuses on one specific topic instead of a general concept, and some lines like being "the shooting star of a lowered expectation" and the whole chorus really speak to me. But I think the lyrics of Father of All are a little under-appreciated too, I think his approach to talking about money and self-destruction while being aware of him being a part of that modern culture and feeding into it (when talking about the poison and the bed of blood and money) brings back a little the self-depricating tone in their past lyrics that I love so much, and I liked the subtle nods to climate change to make it timely (like the references of smoke and the sun).

[GDFan2019]

3 minutes ago, ANTI said:

I'm so glad you actually enjoyed some songs and we could have a good discussion, totally made my day dude, thanks. I think there's beauty in every genre, so if I helped one person see this, it put a smile in my face too.

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And hey, totally not trying to be pushy here, but you seem to be more into the melodic side of music and I noticed I did some disservice to some artists I recommended, so if you're still willing to give it a chance, Tyler The Creator's See You Again uses some beautiful strings arrangements throught out the song that I think you would enjoy and Childish Gambino's Redbone takes the same afrofunk influences used in This is America, but in a much more musical way. Also think you would dig this two songs by Noname and A$AP Rocky, but to be honest, you liking Offence and Old Town Road is good enough for me.

Now, onto the new single again, listening to the song more, I do think that the song would have benefited with some bridge or solo before the third verse to change the pace a little and give it that extra push. But, as the other say, I also think the lyrics are the best of the three, Billie's writing is usually better when he focuses on one specific topic instead of a general concept, and some lines like being "the shooting star of a lowered expectation" and the whole chorus really speak to me. But I think the lyrics of Father of All are a little under-appreciated too, I think his approach to talking about money and self-destruction while being aware of him being a part of that modern culture and feeding into it (when talking about the poison and the bed of blood and money) brings back a little the self-depricating tone in their past lyrics that I love so much, and I liked the subtle nods to climate change to make it timely (like the references of smoke and the sun).

Fire Ready Aim is obviously the weakest of the three and I understand why. Now don’t get me wrong, I like the song, but to me it seems to be a rush job, probably because the NHL and/or NBC approached them and probably said, “We’d like you to write a theme song for Wednesday night Hockey and we need the song by (insert date).”