DookieLukie Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, UNICORN VOMIT said: Still Breathing & Bang Bang got heaps of airplay here, Where's that? Amish Village? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrieking Shack Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Wow, after hearing this song I am speechless. FOAM is fun, FRA is catchy, but this is a steaming pile of shit. All I'm going to say is that the long term drug use and alcoholism really has fried Billie's brain. This song is proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pansyhunter Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 A few thoughts on "Oh Yeah" Overall, I like some of the lyrics and the catchy quality the pre-chorus has. The song is just too slow for me though without any part that really hooks me. The sampling of Joan Jett's "Do You Wanna Touch Me" for the chorus seems super lazy to me? I don't see what its adding to the song, and it reminds me of when soundcloud rappers sample bits from popular songs to make their own stuff sound cool. Green Day's never really done something like that before, and it's odd to start now. What I do like is that it really stands out from FOA and FRA. FOA really grew on me even though lyrics for all 3 songs have been really sub-par for GD. It doesn't really make me excited for the new album, but I hope we get some cool variety with what little time there is on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I realized recently that I'd been treating GD like my fantasy band, concocting experiments of things I'd like them to write or sound like. Instead, I decided to just listen to other bands and write my own music. However, I truly miss pre-21CB vocal filters. Clear. Powerful. Snarly. I miss those vocals. Most of the recent music seems like Billie is trying to dull or hide his voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxxcarterxxX Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 There’s a part two to this video where Tyla will be rapping on Junkies on a High Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, RisingRedWolf said: I'm still waiting for someone to prove otherwise, like I said I am open minded. The last "commercial good music rap song" I can think of is Lose Yourself by Eminem or anything from Linkin Park. Also if you are just going to have lyrics without good music, isn't that what rap is for??? I don’t really know what you mean? “Good music” is subjective, and I don’t really know how you define “commercial”? In the UK grime music certainly brings fresher beats into the mix rather than generic, but if you’ve decided you don’t like it then you won’t like it. Its all personal taste, I’m just saying making random sweeping statements don’t really bring anything worthwhile to the table, especially when there’s so much to discuss about the single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 So for those of you trashing OY, and I’m asking this seriously, what would you like to be hearing with these singles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: So for those of you trashing OY, and I’m asking this seriously, what would you like to be hearing with these singles? In my fantasy world? Longshot-style album again (mature, catchy, lyrically sound, some sound variance). Or GD finally making the Exile on Main Street style (stripped down rock) Billie has been saying he wants to make for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: In my fantasy world? Longshot-style album again (mature, catchy, lyrically sound, some sound variance). Or GD finally making the Exile on Main Street style (stripped down rock) Billie has been saying he wants to make for decades. go listen to Love is for Losers again then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: So for those of you trashing OY, and I’m asking this seriously, what would you like to be hearing with these singles? Here's my complaints with each song FOA: Vocal filters and the falsetto during the verses ruin the song. Otherwise it's good, the instrumentation is solid, the chorus is a good GD sounding chorus 2.5/5 FRA: Extremely generic rock song; like something off the trilogy but with way worse vocals and the lyrics are on par with some of the worst lyrics of the trilogy. Catchy but forgettable 2.5/5 OY: Sounds alright, the verses are decent, the chorus is alright, the Oh Yeahs don't bother me like they do a lot of other people. But there's no build, little energy, little re-playability and I think it would work a lot better as a break or interlude between high energy bangers. This album so far has no bangers 3/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pansyhunter Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: So for those of you trashing OY, and I’m asking this seriously, what would you like to be hearing with these singles? My problem is what I want to hear goes against what the new album will be. I want longer songs 3-5 mins that have good instruments, clever and mature lyrics and tackle politics or modern problems in a way that doesn't just seem to make general uninspired statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: In my fantasy world? Longshot-style album again (mature, catchy, lyrically sound, some sound variance). Or GD finally making the Exile on Main Street style (stripped down rock) Billie has been saying he wants to make for decades. Ok this goes to show how different perceptions are. I’m not a Longshot fan because to me it sounds like 80s rock. It’s retrospective, not at all forward-thinking. I love that now they’re doing something much more modern and that is a variation in their normal sound. 5 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Here's my complaints with each song FOA: Vocal filters and the falsetto during the verses ruin the song. Otherwise it's good, the instrumentation is solid, the chorus is a good GD sounding chorus 2.5/5 FRA: Extremely generic rock song; like something off the trilogy but with way worse vocals and the lyrics are on par with some of the worst lyrics of the trilogy. Catchy but forgettable 2.5/5 OY: Sounds alright, the verses are decent, the chorus is alright, the Oh Yeahs don't bother me like they do a lot of other people. But there's no build, little energy, little re-playability and I think it would work a lot better as a break or interlude between high energy bangers. This album so far has no bangers 3/5 I think these are legitimate complaints because they’re concrete and you’re talking about why the songs just don’t move you. I get that. But can you understand also that some people feel very differently and these songs, or at least one or two of them, really hit the sweet spot for some people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxGD Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: So for those of you trashing OY, and I’m asking this seriously, what would you like to be hearing with these singles? I love oh yeah so much. Based off talking to friends who don’t like it I would say they want the themes of nimrod, the feel of dookie as far as musicianship, and the energy and emotion of American idiot. The thing I think is funny is that these people also say they want Green Day to experiment again, but what they want is their favorite aspects of things alreadydone, just reconfigured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: Ok this goes to show how different perceptions are. I’m not a Longshot fan because to me it sounds like 80s rock. It’s retrospective, not at all forward-thinking. I love that now they’re doing something much more modern and that is a variation in their normal sound. These new songs aren't really forward-thinking to me. FOA is basically Billie trying to sound like Prince, which he said himself. And the chorus and instrumentation just sounds like GD FRA is a generic rock song that sounds like a leftover from the trilogy which was left off because it wasn't good enough OY has a sample of Joan Jett Longshot isn't any less forward-thinking because it's inspired by 80s rock. These new songs have inspirations too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, MaxGD said: I love oh yeah so much. Based off talking to friends who don’t like it I would say they want the themes of nimrod, the feel of dookie as far as musicianship, and the energy and emotion of American idiot. The thing I think is funny is that these people also say they want Green Day to experiment again, but what they want is their favorite aspects of things alreadydone, just reconfigured Exactly. They want them to repeat history, which they absolutely cannot do, either with recreating the Dookie young punk thing or the AI opus thing. That’s not gonna happen and it shouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: I think these are legitimate complaints because they’re concrete and you’re talking about why the songs just don’t move you. I get that. But can you understand also that some people feel very differently and these songs, or at least one or two of them, really hit the sweet spot for some people? I can understand that people have a different opinion to me. I don't think their opinion is less valid than mine (Like Eric does ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trambopoline Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: So for those of you trashing OY, and I’m asking this seriously, what would you like to be hearing with these singles? MOOTIK but not by Panicland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, RisingRedWolf said: I'm still waiting for someone to prove otherwise, like I said I am open minded. The last "commercial good music rap song" I can think of is Lose Yourself by Eminem or anything from Linkin Park. Also if you are just going to have lyrics without good music, isn't that what rap is for??? The fact that you can't even name Kendrick Lamar, who is like THE token hip-hop artists for music elitists is so telling. I know the discussion changed a little in the last page, but I'll answer to this only cause I'm so sick of hip-hop being trashed in rock circles. Since you probably haven't heard Kendrick, here's an example of one of his biggest hits Alright, which mixes jazz, funk and soul into a amazingly delivered song. I would recommend the entire album, To Pimp a Butterfly, pointed by the majority of music outlets as the album of the decade along with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy by Kanye. Another song from his latest album I would recommend is Element. I see a lot of people badmouthing mainstream hip-hop, but honestly huge hits like This is America, which mixes trap and afrofunk and sould, Sicko Mode, which mixes trap and psychedelia and even Old Town Road, which mixes country and trap, and is even uses a Nine Inch Nails sample as a chore beat, have shown way more sound dinamics and originality than most rock songs in the last years. That's not even getting into more critically acclaimed artists from 2019 like Tyler, with songs like A Boy is a Gun with neo-soul influences, Little Simz with Offence working around a very grime sound, JPEGMafia with Jesus Forgive me I'm a Thot, which has a amazing mix of Industrial and R&B and Injury Reserve with a song like Jailbreak the Tesla with a glitch inspired sound. Honestly, the examples are endless, and this are only songs from the last two years. I hope you can actually take the time to listen more before discrediting an entire genre of music, especially if you only lift up white artists in a genre that was born historically as a space to give voice to the black community. It's legitimate to not like hip-hop, but that doesn't mean you can negate how much it has helped change (and in my opinion evolve) the mainstream music scene as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: These new songs aren't really forward-thinking to me. FOA is basically Billie trying to sound like Prince, which he said himself FRA is a generic rock song that sounds like a leftover from the trilogy which was left off because it wasn't good enough OY has a sample of Joan Jett Longshot isn't any less forward-thinking because it's inspired by 80s rock. These new songs have inspirations too It’s not that it’s inspired by 80s rock, IMO. It sounds like it could come right off the radio from the 80s. And I agree with you about FRA, but I think FOA and OY very much are. I get why a lot of people don’t feel that way, but a lot of other people are hearing something that sounds fresh and exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Joe. said: I don’t really know what you mean? “Good music” is subjective, and I don’t really know how you define “commercial”? In the UK grime music certainly brings fresher beats into the mix rather than generic, but if you’ve decided you don’t like it then you won’t like it. Its all personal taste, I’m just saying making random sweeping statements don’t really bring anything worthwhile to the table, especially when there’s so much to discuss about the single Okay, sorry in advance because this could get long, but I promise I will keep it on topic if you guys hear me out till the end. Firstly, I understand completely where you are coming from and I apologize to anyone I may have offended or gave the impression that I was being ignorant with that statement. I see how it could come off that way. Let it be known I don't align myself to any particular genre or label or intentionally hate on something because it's exactly not what I love anymore, I hope I had grown out of that years ago. I acknowledge that there is no doubt plenty of rap music out there with great music that I haven't heard and I am always open to discovery, so please anyone, PM me if you think you know something that I might like. Secondly, In regards to what I define as good music, something that is not necesarrily complicated, but instrumentally sophisticated and melodic enough that I would enjoy listening to just to be able to hear it without the vocals or words needing to be there is the easiest way to explain my taste. I listened to a lot of instrumental and classical music before I found Green Day and their music just so happened to have spoken to me on an emotional level, and I'd even say spiritual level. Punk and Rock music in general has become my go to Genre because of this. Ive been bullied for it over the years but GD got me through them, and it the end of the day I always had them. This is also why I am very critical of them when they release songs that arent up to the quality I'd expect from them. Its because I love them and I want the best for them, and i dont believe them finding the latest gimmicks and throwing them together is in my opinion what I would like to see them doing when they have proved multiple times that they can not only produce great music, but also through their own artistic expression completely take over the mainstream with their music. Oh Yeah is not of the quality I expect from this band and I wouldn't care as much if it were a side project, but it's not. Troll Album or not, I am just over it and I want to know what the boys are really doing and why they're acting the way they are to people who have supported them for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Herroon said: MOOTIK but not by Panicland And that would sound like they’re trying to recreate AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 After hearing this, I feel like "Fire Ready Aim" is definitely the weaker track of the three, even though I do like it. It may be the most Green Dayish, but the worst from the album. The band have diverged majorly from what they are known for and I am loving the heck out of it. The heathens line sounds like another song, maybe The Longshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I like some hip-hop music and some rap. I just can't get behind the messages and themes. I know there rap with positive lyrics (which I like even more), but I can't get behind the woman-hating, violence promoting, drug using, sexual abuse glorifying culture of that music. It's the only genre that gets away with it in our PC culture, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I hope there is a track on FOAM where Billie, Mike and Tre spit fire, trading bars with each other. And then the Rap God himself (Jason White of course) finishes the track with the most hardcore gangsta rapping ever. I also hope this track is 13 minutes long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 There's a way to repeat yourself somewhat but also do something different. That's what they did with Rev Rad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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