solongfromthestars Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 The confetti from this show was so cute Also, I'd say from the unicorn piece there's some genuine excitement about the upcoming era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 The confetti was fanmade, right? I saw someone blowing up the confetti balloons in the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madafaka Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Billie is a loose cannon these days. He's not okay guys. Why aren't anyone talking about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, madafaka said: Billie is a loose cannon these days. He's not okay guys. Why aren't anyone talking about it? A lot of people have been talking about that lately but I think he seems alright for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madafaka Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, Beyza said: A lot of people have been talking about that lately but I think he seems alright for now He doesn't seem in shape for an album release and tour. He seems very anxious, with low self-esteem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, madafaka said: He doesn't seem in shape for an album release and tour. He seems very anxious, with low self-esteem What do you mean by shape, his voice or body? I didn’t see him anxious or low self-esteem too. If you talk about interviews, he has never been into them so much I think, he could seem off because of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penbreaker Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, madafaka said: Billie is a loose cannon these days. He's not okay guys. Why aren't anyone talking about it? Comments like this makes me anxious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madafaka Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beyza said: What do you mean by shape, his voice or body? I didn’t see him anxious or low self-esteem too. If you talk about interviews, he has never been into them so much I think, he could seem off because of that Mental shape, voice as well. Trust me, he is in a bad head space at the moment. It's clear from both recent interviews and recent performances. It has nothing to do with "not being into it" - he's not in a condition where he is able to perform better. I think he is going through some sort of crisis. Hopefully he comes out of it stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, madafaka said: Mental shape, voice as well. Trust me, he is in a bad head space at the moment. It's clear from both recent interviews and recent performances. It has nothing to do with "not being into it" - he's not in a condition where he is able to perform better. I think he is going through some sort of crisis. Hopefully he comes out of it stronger. It is possible of course we couldn’t know exactly what he is getting through. I hope he’ll be fine until they go on the tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, madafaka said: Billie is a loose cannon these days. He's not okay guys. Why aren't anyone talking about it? Because he repect his privacy and his right to deal with whatever he needs to deal with without our scrutiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Guys, if Billie says one more time that 99 Revolutions is his best song then we can start worrying about his well-being. Until that, thanks @Todd for the video. What a great show it must've been and god I love Stay the Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Miko said: Guys, if Billie says one more time that 99 Revolutions is his best song then we can start worrying about his well-being. Until that, thanks @Todd for the video. What a great show it must've been and god I love Stay the Night. He said their best song is Jesus of Suburbia recently but not sure that can give an idea about his current state of mind lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofygoldfish Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Todd said: The confetti was fanmade, right? I saw someone blowing up the confetti balloons in the audience. Correct, it was Meike and Ralph who made it, they did a great job 🤗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, madafaka said: He doesn't seem in shape for an album release and tour. He seems very anxious, with low self-esteem Anxiety and low self esteem are kind of his trademarks. He’s had to deal with those things forever and they always go in cycles, he’s been open about that. Beyond that we can’t know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, madafaka said: He doesn't seem in shape for an album release and tour. He seems very anxious, with low self-esteem I dont know why you say this or what you are basing it on but as @pacejunkie punk says above, he’s human and has to deal with stuff every day, I haven’t seen anything to make me feel this is the case. Also, @Beerjeezus is right, it’s not really our business, we may care about him and want him to be well but we really can’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Anxiety and low self esteem are kind of his trademarks. He’s had to deal with those things forever and they always go in cycles, he’s been open about that. Beyond that we can’t know anything. I think those are almost every people’s trademarks but could be more common in artistic people. Some may tend to hide them through their arts, stage performances etc. and prefer not to talk at all. I think it’s really good he’s being open about it, I’ve always felt like he is a self-conscious person because of his statements from interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beyza said: I think those are almost every people’s trademarks but could be more common in artistic people. Some may tend to hide them through their arts, stage performances etc. and prefer not to talk at all. I think it’s really good he’s being open about it, I’ve always felt like he is a self-conscious person because of his statements from interviews It’s a lot of what makes him and his music so relatable and universally adored. Many of us are the same and have similar struggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madafaka Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Anxiety and low self esteem are kind of his trademarks. He’s had to deal with those things forever and they always go in cycles, he’s been open about that. Beyond that we can’t know anything. I'm just hyper aware of it at the moment. I'm sorely disappointed in him to be honest. I'm not saying I'm a mind reader, but I have a pretty strong intuition with these things, and it tells me that his issues are revolving around not being "relevant" anymore. To me, that is just obvious. Man's got a ego. Always been a rebel with something to prove. And he must have experienced some insane highs at the peak(s) of his career. But these days, he seems like he is struggling with identity and where to go next. To me, the answer is obvious, he should let himself become the old punk rock legend he is, and stop chasing the past. Relax, and let his creative drive decide where to go next. There is a word for it, midlife crisis. Our boy has it. Has been slowly building since 2012. No harm will come from us talking about it. Quite the opposite. Plus, he's hopefully aware of it himself. Thanks for reading my rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, madafaka said: I'm just hyper aware of it at the moment. I'm sorely disappointed in him to be honest. I'm not saying I'm a mind reader, but I have a pretty strong intuition with these things, and it tells me that his issues are revolving around not being "relevant" anymore. To me, that is just obvious. Man's got a ego. Always been a rebel with something to prove. And he must have experienced some insane highs at the peak(s) of his career. But these days, he seems like he is struggling with identity and where to go next. To me, the answer is obvious, he should let himself become the old punk rock legend he is, and stop chasing the past. Relax, and let his creative drive decide where to go next. There is a word for it, midlife crisis. Our boy has it. Has been slowly building since 2012. No harm will come from us talking about it. Quite the opposite. Plus, he's hopefully aware of it himself. Thanks for reading my rant. Well, yeah he clearly is trying to stay relevant and maybe he'd do better at it if he wasn't actively trying to. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything about his mental health. I don't know. I do care about him and I admit I'm sometimes kind of worried, but at the same time I don't want to assume the worst. What good does it do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, madafaka said: I'm just hyper aware of it at the moment. I'm sorely disappointed in him to be honest. I'm not saying I'm a mind reader, but I have a pretty strong intuition with these things, and it tells me that his issues are revolving around not being "relevant" anymore. To me, that is just obvious. Man's got a ego. Always been a rebel with something to prove. And he must have experienced some insane highs at the peak(s) of his career. But these days, he seems like he is struggling with identity and where to go next. To me, the answer is obvious, he should let himself become the old punk rock legend he is, and stop chasing the past. Relax, and let his creative drive decide where to go next. There is a word for it, midlife crisis. Our boy has it. Has been slowly building since 2012. No harm will come from us talking about it. Quite the opposite. Plus, he's hopefully aware of it himself. Thanks for reading my rant. I understand why you’re having these feelings, but I think you’re really misreading some things. A band doesn’t put out a 26 minute album with all fast, short songs to try to stay relevant. I really believe that the music Billie is creating is coming from a very sincere place and is what he wants to create right now. That’s all he can do at this stage. He’s not trying to tailor it to anybody or anything. He’s just trying some things. Some of it will fall flat and some of it will be great. That’s the nature of the business at this point in a band’s career. As I’ve said before, I’d much rather see them doing that than trying to recreate something from the past or hold on to a stale formula that makes it sound like they’re stuck on the same thing over and over. I also honestly do not see low self esteem or excessive anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: I understand why you’re having these feelings, but I think you’re really misreading some things. A band doesn’t put out a 26 minute album with all fast, short songs to try to stay relevant. I really believe that the music Billie is creating is coming from a very sincere place and is what he wants to create right now. That’s all he can do at this stage. He’s not trying to tailor it to anybody or anything. He’s just trying some things. Some of it will fall flat and some of it will be great. That’s the nature of the business at this point in a band’s career. As I’ve said before, I’d much rather see them doing that than trying to recreate something from the past or hold on to a stale formula that makes it sound like they’re stuck on the same thing over and over. I also honestly do not see low self esteem or excessive anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 We don't know what Billie is or isn't going through. It's okay to have concerns and want him to be well but I don't think we have any basis to say he doesn't seem to be in shape for this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 23 hours ago, madafaka said: Billie is a loose cannon these days. He's not okay guys. Why aren't anyone talking about it? Maybe because we don't know him personally and have no right to make blatant assumptions about his mental state based on the little fragments of his life that we see. If he is having a rough time, he has no obligation to share that with us and he's got plenty of support from friends and family. To me, it appears that he's doing great and having a lot of fun. I don't see any indication that he's having anxiety or self esteem issues at the moment. Anyway, that confetti is really cool. Does anyone know who made it? What a fun thing to bring to the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 His mental health has nothing to do with any of us. He’s doing what he wants to do and it’s pointless speculating about it because we know nothing. What I will say is that I fully trust the members of the band to look out for one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madafaka Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I get that some of you feel that this is something too sensitive to be discussed, so I will leave it here. But I am doubling down on my initial comment that something not-so-good is going on in the Green Day world, or more precisely, the Billie Joe world. You don't have to have the full picture of their lives to sense that. Especially not when you've followed these guys religiously for 15 years. But from a more positive perspective, crisis is usually where growth comes from, so I am hopeful either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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