Are you excited about the direction Green Day is heading

[JardyOfSuburbia]

And by that I mean are you excited about the potential of Green Day being off of their record deal? Do you like the idea of them potentially just pushing out new music (EPs, songs, etc.) whenever as opposed to them taking their time and putting out albums?

I know Noel Gallagher has gone this route lately and put out a series of EPs. In a sense, Weezer has done this with a rapid fire release of albums that all have a different sound to them.

I'm just curious if people are worried about quality over quantity, or if you're in the camp of, "Hey, I'll take new music whenever I get the chance."

Sound off, peeps!

[Beerjeezus]

I'm hopeful for it, but less so since FOAM has begun to unravel, because I'm a little scared that we're now looking at an indication of what they have in store.

However the idea of new music more often is exciting!

[pacejunkie punk]

Putting musical ideas out quicker and more frequently is exciting but it necessarily also means higher likelihood that some things done in haste may miss the mark with fans or not be curated to the level of an album track.  I know other artists that do this using Soundcloud and I’m fine with it, I just take everything and decide what I like.   It’s the 3-4 year wait for what they consider to be their ultimate output (and you still may not like it) that I’m starting to lose patience for.  

[That Dude]

Yes.

I am also excited that the new album has no intro, and that Green Day don't have any songs called "Intro".  Sure, Breakdown and Dos kind of had them, but those both had vocals, titles and could be songs on their own merit. 

I love the title track, and Fire Ready Aim is a fun little song. 

I am sure that there is a sonic variety yet to be revealed on the album, and that's always the best part.

They have never blown their load with lead singles.  That's why I love this band.  The deep cuts cut so deep it makes me cry. 

With 10 songs and 26 minutes, it makes each song massively important to how we feel about the album.  One mistep could make this album feel sloppy.  But i have faith. 

The other tracks are going to weird, powerful, funky and full of Green Grace. 

[Clockwise]

Releasing music more frequently does not mean it's going to be of a lesser quality. You could argue that stewing over things for too long could lead to the same issue. They've always wanted to be working musicians in a working band, and it's insane that for the last decade plus they've pretty much only worked for 2 out of every 5 years. Not being bound by the archaic model of a major label record release cycle will likely be great for the mental health of the band members and for their creativity! 

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

I don't think "direction green day is heading" is completely true. That implies that they are keeping this style even after this album, and I'm thinking that's not the case myself but who knows. 

To answer the question, hell yeah I'm excited for new green day music. I've been a fan since 2010. The only albums I have gotten to witness the release of were the trilogy and revrad so new music from my favorite band is always exciting.

I think this album will be a a fun colorful rush of fast high-energy songs. I think this will be the most "fun" green day album since nimrod. The song titles so far are the most interesting song titles since 21stCBD, and instrumentally FOAM and FRA are already more interesting than pretty much all of RevRad and the trilogy. That said after listening to the first two songs, and even Love is For Losers, I already know that these songs will lack any meaningful lyrical substance. I'd love to be wrong there but I don't think I am.

So basically I think this will the the trilogy but more interesting and not a drag, and I'm excited to see how it turns out.

[Beerjeezus]

8 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

I don't think "direction green day is heading" is completely true. That implies that they are keeping this style even after this album, and I'm thinking that's not the case myself but who knows. 

To answer the question, hell yeah I'm excited for new green day music. I've been a fan since 2010. The only albums I have gotten to witness the release of were the trilogy and revrad so new music from my favorite band is always exciting.

I think this album will be a a fun colorful rush of fast high-energy songs. I think this will be the most "fun" green day album since nimrod. The song titles so far are the most interesting song titles since 21stCBD, and instrumentally FOAM and FRA are already more interesting than pretty much all of RevRad and the trilogy. That said after listening to the first two songs, and even Love is For Losers, I already know that these songs will lack any meaningful lyrical substance. I'd love to be wrong there but I don't think I am.

So basically I think this will the the trilogy but more interesting and not as much as a drag, and I'm excited to see how it turns out.

I think you're spot on with saying FOAM and FRA are just like the trilogy, but with a better sound.

That said, I wish it was all less bubble-gummy… Initially I was really excited for this album and for the prospect of the independent future, but now I'm not so sure. I hope they'll do more with their artistic freedom than create music that sounds like ads.

[The Grohl]

I like the idea of Green Day being able to release EPs or standalone singles when they want, but I would worry that they wouldn't feel the need to put out stellar albums. I just don't want them to create and release music tailor made for streaming. I'd rather have full length albums they put a lot of energy into.

[That Dude]

2 hours ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

I don't think "direction green day is heading" is completely true. That implies that they are keeping this style even after this album, and I'm thinking that's not the case myself but who knows. 

To answer the question, hell yeah I'm excited for new green day music. I've been a fan since 2010. The only albums I have gotten to witness the release of were the trilogy and revrad so new music from my favorite band is always exciting.

I think this album will be a a fun colorful rush of fast high-energy songs. I think this will be the most "fun" green day album since nimrod. The song titles so far are the most interesting song titles since 21stCBD, and instrumentally FOAM and FRA are already more interesting than pretty much all of RevRad and the trilogy. That said after listening to the first two songs, and even Love is For Losers, I already know that these songs will lack any meaningful lyrical substance. I'd love to be wrong there but I don't think I am.

So basically I think this will the the trilogy but more interesting and not a drag, and I'm excited to see how it turns out.

They have changed between every project, except maybe 1039 and Kerplunk.  I doubt we will get two albums like FOAM, with the unicorn puking on the Warning cover....that would be cool actually, haha. 

I hope you are right about Nimrod levels of fun!  I think this thing will be a love child of Nimrod and Insomniac. 

 

[Miko]

I really don't know what I should feel regarding Green Day's music future. Obviously they will be together, but they are that band who did Dookie. I really don't see how they will be perfoming live any of current songs (especially Jesus of Suburbia) when they are close to 60. Vocals yes, but as good as currently with their instruments? Obviously they can just slow everything down, tune down, cut the screams, perfom less songs per show etc.. Seeing Metallica live nowadays is just sad since they're way past their prime and I don't want to have same feelings regarding Green Day. Thankfully they are still youthful and perfoming like they used to, but they've already made some drastic changes how they play some songs. Makes me question their future as of live band.

Regarding the question, yes I fucking hope they just leave the Warner and gives fan like me 300+ songs in a year. I really hate these 3-4 year long waits and it's time to hear all kind of ideas Billie Joe has. Remastered Trilogy, songs that didn't make it (State of Shock, Olivia etc), more Nightlife, just anything.

 

[Beerjeezus]

I feel like they've changed a lot. Ten years ago they released Breakdown and...it's hard to wrap my mind around the fact that that was the same band that now did FRA. Who knows what will happen in another decade.

[That Dude]

45 minutes ago, Miko said:

I really don't know what I should feel regarding Green Day's music future. Obviously they will be together, but they are that band who did Dookie. I really don't see how they will be perfoming live any of current songs (especially Jesus of Suburbia) when they are close to 60. Vocals yes, but as good as currently with their instruments? Obviously they can just slow everything down, tune down, cut the screams, perfom less songs per show etc.. Seeing Metallica live nowadays is just sad since they're way past their prime and I don't want to have same feelings regarding Green Day. Thankfully they are still youthful and perfoming like they used to, but they've already made some drastic changes how they play some songs. Makes me question their future as of live band.

Regarding the question, yes I fucking hope they just leave the Warner and gives fan like me 300+ songs in a year. I really hate these 3-4 year long waits and it's time to hear all kind of ideas Billie Joe has. Remastered Trilogy, songs that didn't make it (State of Shock, Olivia etc), more Nightlife, just anything.

 

The Who are in their 70s and are still doing killer shows.  Sure, Rogers voice fails to bring the scream at times, but I for one am glad he and Pete didn't die before they got old. 

It happens to everyone and everything, but I can see Green Day soldiering for many more decades.  Maybe the shows get shorter, maybe JOS is reserved for special occasions. 

It's hard to think about getting older and dying.   I'm about 13 years younger than the guys in Green Day so hopefully we will both get to enjoy many more album cycles before it's time to go. 

 

[Miko]

10 minutes ago, That Dude said:

The Who are in their 70s and are still doing killer shows.  Sure, Rogers voice fails to bring the scream at times, but I for one am glad he and Pete didn't die before they got old. 

It happens to everyone and everything, but I can see Green Day soldiering for many more decades.  Maybe the shows get shorter, maybe JOS is reserved for special occasions. 

It's hard to think about getting older and dying.   I'm about 13 years younger than the guys in Green Day so hopefully we will both get to enjoy many more album cycles before it's time to go. 

 

Of course there are a lot of good bands that have done killer shows after reaching 50 or 60 (Rolling Stones for example) but I don't know how punk rock band like Green Day could manage doing killer shows when they are old. Drums especially are hardest since Tré Cool never misses a beat and he plays at such high energy all the time.

At the end of the day I'm just worried for no reason and The Boys™ will do killer shows next 40 years.

[That Dude]

Did some weird math and I feel pretty good about the future of Green Day.  Earlier tonight I was trying to decide how many albums were in the bands future.   

I first came up with 6.  Then 9, or possibly even 13 ( if they decide to release more albums sooner like they are currently talking about).  

Another album soon after FOAM is likely, and while I'm all about getting more Green Day I don't think an album a year is a good idea.   An album every 2 years is great, 3 years is what we usually get and 4 years or longer is bad, bad, bad.  

There isn't a perfect science to my "wait between Green Day albums" document, but 3 years is their average.    So the future may look something like this:   

Album 13 in 2020, Guys are 48ish.

Album 14 in 2023, age 51

Album 15 in 2026, age 54

Album 16 in 2029, age 57

Album 17 in 2032, age 60

Album 18 in 2035, age 63

Album 19 in 2038, age 66

Album 20 in 2041, age 69

Album 21 in 2044, age 72

Album 22 in 2047, age 75  

(At this point, if the guys haven't retired, they may need to put the brakes on a bit. )  

Album 23 in 2050, age 78   (hey, I hope to be retired somewhere around this year!)

After this, who knows.   They could live to 100 or more.  

Album 24 in 2053, age 81 

Album 25 in 2056, age 84

Album 26 in 2059, age 87

Album 27 in 2062, age 90

Album 28 in 2065, age 93

Album 29 in 2068, age 96  

Album 30 in 2071, age 99

 

Will GDA still be around after the band is gone?   I bet it will be.    That's strange to think about too, that people hundreds of years from now could possibly still be debating which song is better, which album sucked and which was underrated.    

Hmm.  

 

 

 

 

 

[greendepent]

If BJ did Longshot, there is a good chance that everything that Green Day will release on the future will be in a good level. There some things that they could miss without the major label, but good music isn't one of those things

[UNICORN VOMIT]

They are not heading in the direction of OZ so I'd say no.

[Chin for a Day]

I'm waiting for them to do an album of standards with Tony Bennett

[Beerjeezus]

29 minutes ago, Adorkable said:

I'm waiting for them to do an album of standards with Tony Bennett

It might come sooner than you think 

[Thatsername]

I love the thought of them going independent, and I think after RevRad would have been the perfect time for it (if they had been allowed to go back then). The RevRad era was a new start with the most balanced and harmonic Green Day I as a fan have ever seen. They seemed to be completely in pace with the world and with themselves, and they didn't really care if the album would be very successful or not, it was an album they had to make and you could just feel that it came right from the heart.

The Longshot era that followed already gave us a tiny idea of what Green Day could be like if they were independent: Putting songs on soundcloud, smaller club shows, less pressure. The only thing I would be worried about, as other people already pointed out, is that we would never get a proper (concept-)album again. I am still one of those dinosaurs who loves albums with a dramaturgy and story, and it would be sad if we would never get that again from Green Day. But who knows, maybe we would.

If the whole FOAM thing is the "new" Green Day and the style they want to keep for an independent future though, I think I'll have to change my mind.

[trambopoline]

The direction green day is heading? Why yes, I'm excited for MOOTIK

[papa]

in short... no.

[j3sus0fsuburbia]

Yes, put everything together from their beginnings to Now, they are constantly evolvIng. 

Being free to evolve as they wish will brinG many things, and their love for music will always be there, as long as they don't push tHemselves. 

Longshot era showed us that Billie was itching to get into some new projects. Longshot was very successful, and with any luck being free and able to morph as They wish, we'll see a lot of good things in the future. 

Maybe we'll get more X-mas time of the year

I Love the concept that people are still talking about MOOTIK, because many of us belIeve it is them. 

In my opinion, all of the little pieces fit together Very well. I'm Excited to see if MOOTIK truly exists, if so I'd say the boys will be on top of the world again. 

So, here's to hoping MOOTIK exists, the Boys are enjoying themselves, taking it easy, and getting ready to melt our brains once more. 

There is so much energy around this band and us as a fandom. Honestly I feel like we're only at the beginning, which is saying something with their backlog so far. 

What will Billie, Mike, and Tre do with unlimited freedom with music?

Anything and everything. 

I think we all want a sequel to THAT song. 
Dominated Love Slave II could be a fun visit to the past and a nice way to bookend what has been to what has come so far. 

Love you all, stay Idiots

[Christian's Inferno!]

In terms of actual music direction they're heading, no I'm not excited at all really. This album is imo probably going to be their worst project of the decade based on what we've heard. I really hope I'm wrong and they surprise me though but even if the rest of the album is somewhat better, 27 minutes (which I already know contains at least 4 minutes of 'meh' music) can only get me so excited

In terms of the direction they're heading with them being off their record deal, I think it could be great. Getting music more often, not having to wait 4 years between albums

[The Bellie]

21 hours ago, That Dude said:

Album 20 in 2041, age 69

I think that if they got to that point, it would already be more than great! but seriously, why are people thinking of the age issue now, while they're still young? and I'm not saying this only because they prove to still have a tremendous energy on stage. Billie even looks younger than ten years ago when his face looked more tired ad he was covering it with heavy makeup. They'll do what they feel able to do at each period. They themselves sometimes joke about being "old". Honestly. I bet on stage they don't feel that way. It's a psychological issue 

13 hours ago, Thatsername said:

I love the thought of them going independent, and I think after RevRad would have been the perfect time for it (if they had been allowed to go back then). The RevRad era was a new start with the most balanced and harmonic Green Day I as a fan have ever seen. They seemed to be completely in pace with the world and with themselves, and they didn't really care if the album would be very successful or not, it was an album they had to make and you could just feel that it came right from the heart.

The Longshot era that followed already gave us a tiny idea of what Green Day could be like if they were independent: Putting songs on soundcloud, smaller club shows, less pressure. The only thing I would be worried about, as other people already pointed out, is that we would never get a proper (concept-)album again. I am still one of those dinosaurs who loves albums with a dramaturgy and story, and it would be sad if we would never get that again from Green Day. But who knows, maybe we would.

If the whole FOAM thing is the "new" Green Day and the style they want to keep for an independent future though, I think I'll have to change my mind.

Maybe Billie has tried all that existed, sound cloud, new way of putting out music without any album needed, because these means were there and he wanted to try. During Rev Rad they also said they liked the concept of albums. So I wouldn't say the Longshot gives an idea of what GD would be if they were independent: it's what Billie has done aside of GD, because it's stuff he doesn't do with GD, and that he wanted to try.

To answer the topic directly, yeah I am excited. The live shows and seeing them put all their beings in performances is essential and I know that will always be there. As for the music, I loved the two new singles so far. The time from the album release is not so far away compared to their previous albums, so I don't mind. It seems it's a matter that has been raised a lot, in Foam interviews, but when you just take the dates, it's not that different than before. In their responses, GD are probably not expressing a sudden change they've decided to operate but something they've just been doing more and more like all the artists nowadays have. I still wish there are albums and a concept, I don't see anything that tells there won't be for now.

[Lenny]

8 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said:

In terms of actual music direction they're heading, no I'm not excited at all really. This album is imo probably going to be their worst project of the decade based on what we've heard. I really hope I'm wrong and they surprise me though but even if the rest of the album is somewhat better, 27 minutes (which I already know contains at least 4 minutes of 'meh' music) can only get me so excited

In terms of the direction they're heading with them being off their record deal, I think it could be great. Getting music more often, not having to wait 4 years between albums

Still better than what Tre had to offer at this point so far