Green Day headlining MTV World Stage on November 2

[The Grohl]

25 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

Yeah Robert Smith amazes me with the setlist. They do a heavy rotation. But they also have a fanbase and a body of work that supports that. Chances are if you're into The Cure and you're from N.A you're into more obscure music and chances are you appreciate the deep cuts. 

GD is too mainstream and will be expected to play hits from over the years. That's one of the limitations. 

I can see that and that makes sense, but I feel like they're at a point where they could take a few more risks. I've seen other mainstream acts do it and it's such a treat. And when GD switched things up for the club tour it seemed go down very well. They still played a ton of hits, but they threw in songs from Insomniac and Nimrod that had been missing for years. 

[Lenny]

Just now, kaylubd said:

I can see that and that makes sense, but I feel like they're at a point where they could take a few more risks. I've seen other mainstream acts do it and it's such a treat. And when GD switched things up for the club tour it seemed go down very well. They still played a ton of hits, but they threw in songs from Insomniac and Nimrod that had been missing for years. 

Yeah it's about time management for them. Also, they have a ton of hits! They have the ability to change the mix up. Waiting has been underutilized in a live setting. 

[Hyperion]

29 minutes ago, PursuitOfEpicness said:

Everytime I think I don't like a GD song they play it live and I change my mind

 They should play Nightlife live and it might get more love🤷‍♀️

[The Grohl]

38 minutes ago, A Human Who Loves GD said:

 They should play Nightlife live and it might get more love🤷‍♀️

I'm %100 behind this idea. Nightlife and Kill the DJ....back to back! 

[Lenny]

6 minutes ago, kaylubd said:

I'm %100 behind this idea. Nightlife and Kill the DJ....back to back! 

Kill The Dj would actually be cool to see live 

[Hyperion]

3 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

Kill The Dj would actually be cool to see live 

It has actually been played live, but never with by a pro.

[Lenny]

1 minute ago, A Human Who Loves GD said:

It has actually been played live, but never with by a pro.

I know it has but I haven't seen it live at the shows I've been to 

[RedundantIdiot]

"Smoking up from the smoke from above"! Didn't take long for Billie to fuck up the lyrics to a new song 😂

[The Bellie]

23 hours ago, Sheenius said:

Yeah this tour needs to be about the music 

Well Billie said that for him music and social justice go hand in hand. It all depends on what you expect when hearing music. 

Whether we like it, or find it unnecessary or cringey, I think we can be proud of him speaking his mind during a show, even more in the middle of a song. the fact he chooses a particular song to say a particular thing is perhaps meaningful about what he associates that song with. I'd rather hear what he really has to say and honestly the passion he puts in it, with the way he strains his voice to yell (while during revrad the shows were pretty long) is a treat. I missed it a bit during the Seville show. Anyways I wouldn't be disappointed if he gave himself the time to do it again during the upcoming hella mega shows. 

3 hours ago, RedundantIdiot said:

"Smoking up from the smoke from above"! Didn't take long for Billie to fuck up the lyrics to a new song 😂

Usually he says something as to acknowledge that he fucked up but this time he just went on as if nothing happened 😋

[Lenny]

15 minutes ago, The Bellie said:

Well Billie said that for him music and social justice go hand in hand. It all depends on what you expect when hearing music. 

Whether we like it, or find it unnecessary or cringey, I think we can be proud of him speaking his mind during a show, even more in the middle of a song. the fact he chooses a particular song to say a particular thing is perhaps meaningful about what he associates that song with. I'd rather hear what he really has to say and honestly the passion he puts in it, with the way he strains his voice to yell (while during revrad the shows were pretty long) is a treat. I missed it a bit during the Seville show. Anyways I wouldn't be disappointed if he gave himself the time to do it again during the upcoming hella mega shows. 

Usually he says something as to acknowledge that he fucked up but this time he just went on as if nothing happened 😋

I have no problem with him speaking his mind. All I'm saying is the approach mentally right now should be about the actual music that is played. That includes spending time on the setlist, how they sound, what arrangement of each song theyre playing etc 

Their shouldn't really be time spent on what talking points he's gonna have. If you have ever been on stage playing a show you know that talking points often come quite naturally. 

I have a similar personality type to Billie Joe so I can appreciate what he's saying or how he's saying it but at this point if I can recite it by the time he hits my stop of the tour then I don't feel as great about it.  The best Green Day memories I've ever had whether it's a song played or something said has always been spontaneous in nature. I really like story time with Billie Joe during a show. Hearing a new story told over music is pretty cool. 

I actually gave Billie Joe somewhat of a letter one time at a show in 09. What's awesome is after he read it he actually made changes to the setlist me and my friends suggested. Most of the changes were seen for us fans in the 2010 leg but if you were at the tail end of the North American tour in 2009 (starting in Ottawa) there were some nice treats for you in there. 

[Miko]

I'm not fan of this ''greatest hits'' setlist so far. I truly hope they will change it a lot since I have no interest of hearing same old 6 or 7 songs from AI. I feel like I was very lucky to hear one of my all-time favorite Green Day songs ''Stop When the Red Lights Flash'' live back in 2013 and I even got to hear Stray Heart and Stay the Night! Those three awesome GD songs have not been played since then (except Stay the Night during Longshot shows) and I hope they would bring some of those Trilogy songs back to setlist because they are fucking bangers live.

At the end of the day, no matter how much I pray that some rare songs get more love, I'll be happy to hear She for 203123123123th time and I will never get tired of it. New songs are probably gonna sound good aswell so it's not like the concert will be fiasco, but I'm just tired of hearing same songs tour after tour.

[Lenny]

1 minute ago, Miko said:

I'm not fan of this ''greatest hits'' setlist so far.

Yeah I'm not sure if it's in place as some warm up tactic or not. I hope they do keep BOBD that's my pee song. KFAD is another pee song lol 

They're a big band so the pressure to play hits will always be there and I understand that. It's almost like being a receiver at work and not expecting to get on the forklift tomorrow morning. Hits are their forklift. 

Atleast throw in a couple goodies for us die hards and of course rotate some of the hits. What's the set about 30 songs when they play 2.5 hours? Most bands will practice 45 standards during a tour. 

[The Bellie]

8 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

I have no problem with him speaking his mind. All I'm saying is the approach mentally right now should be about the actual music that is played. That includes spending time on the setlist, how they sound, what arrangement of each song theyre playing etc 

Their shouldn't really be time spent on what talking points he's gonna have. If you have ever been on stage playing a show you know that talking points often come quite naturally. 

I have a similar personality type to Billie Joe so I can appreciate what he's saying or how he's saying it but at this point if I can recite it by the time he hits my stop of the tour then I don't feel as great about it.  The best Green Day memories I've ever had whether it's a song played or something said has always been spontaneous in nature. I really like story time with Billie Joe during a show. Hearing a new story told over music is pretty cool. 

I don't think that just because he's basically saying the same thing means that he's not spontaneous. Nobody forces him to do that. I for my part enjoy it. I enjoyed seeing it several times even close in time. I don't care about the setlist. There are always new songs and changes whatever people say. As for playing, I just play green day songs for a few friends live but as a beginner when I do I'm in nowhere near a place comfortable enough to add speeches 😋. All I can say is that you have to have courage to speak up and I don't think that fame changes that. And I think what asks the most courage is anything that has to do with politics and social issues. The fact that not everyone likes the result of what Billie does on this matter is sort of a proof a posteriori of it. As much as I like the stories he could tell which I've seen on the internet I can't compare that to passionate rants. I really would like those to stay, even only because I think it makes the show better. Me too I think I have the same kind of personality as Billie, for what it's worth 

 

[Lenny]

1 minute ago, The Bellie said:

As for playing, I just play green day songs for a few friends live but as a beginner when I do I'm in nowhere near a place comfortable enough to add speeches 😋. All I can say is that you have to have courage to speak up and I don't think that fame changes that. And I think what asks the most courage is anything that has to do with politics and social issues. The fact that not everyone likes the result of what Billie does on this matter is sort of a proof a posteriori of it. As much as I like the stories he could tell which I've seen on the internet I can't compare that to passionate rants. I really would like those to stay, even only because I think it makes the show better. Me too I think I have the same kind of personality as Billie, for what it's worth 

 

It's cool you're out there playing. I played as a pro from 2006-2009. Tried kickstarting 3-4 other projects between 2009-2011 but sadly were a no go. I made a switch in my career choice and wrote songs as a hobby and as something to keep the creative process and technical skill going in case anything came my way in the future. As a hobby I've recorded 2 albums and have written roughly about 70 songs on my own. 

When it comes to on stage antics you definitely have to take it on with confidence and remember it's not going to make everyone happy but there's nothing in the world that does make everyone happy. As you become more comfortable with your playing ability and playing on a stage you'll find yourself doing more speaking. Just remember if you play with other people don't go off too much. You are up there with other people and you're representing them as well. I once got into it with my band after a show in 2007. It wasn't about what I said but they complained about the length. We worked as a band to sort that issue out and it never became an issue again. 

Telling a good joke or just the use of speech in general can often create energy. We found the sweet spot for our crowds were really direct and short statements stated aggressively. The Ramones had 1234. We basically did our small speech as that 1234 before each song. They were witty, funny and politically charged. 

[Beerjeezus]

A while ago I saw a band whose stage speeches mostly consisted of mocking green day. It went something like this:

"Are you ready for the fast song???"

"Are you ready for the FAST SONG?"

"I'm gonna disappoint you - the next song is called Wake Me Up When September Ends"

*plays first two bars of WMUWSE followed by their own fast song

10/10

[The Bellie]

4 minutes ago, Sheenius said:

It's cool you're out there playing. I played as a pro from 2006-2009. Tried kickstarting 3-4 other projects between 2009-2011 but sadly were a no go. I made a switch in my career choice and wrote songs as a hobby and as something to keep the creative process and technical skill going in case anything came my way in the future. As a hobby I've recorded 2 albums and have written roughly about 70 songs on my own. 

Thanks. I just started guitar playing two years and a half ago. Immediately I started singing at the same time. Green day songs are great for that, when you're starting. I've always loved music and singing. I don't practice enough though. I started a bit late and it's difficult to give that a steady place in your life when you have to have a living at the same time, and also, being a full grown adult already when starting, I have issues with self expectations and pressure that as a child starting out I wouldn't have had. So basically I only play and practice when I feel like it but I can't when it's my brain speaking. My guitar teacher says I'm gifted though, and a few other people around me tell me I should start a band. Only, when you're rather a loner and without any circle of other musicians relatively novice around you, it's rather difficult to start a band.

What you've managed to do is great. I guess I would be happy to start something pro one day, if I would feel able and also really want that. Right now it's too early. I guess I just enjoy playing very much and it's enough. I did record on my phone about a hundred songs that just came like that (only the singing). I should try to write the guitar part that goes with it...but it's precisely the type of thing I feel unable to do for now lol 😋

[Lenny]

3 hours ago, The Bellie said:

My guitar teacher says I'm gifted though, and a few other people around me tell me I should start a band. Only, when you're rather a loner and without any circle of other musicians relatively novice around you, it's rather difficult to start a band.

What you've managed to do is great. I guess I would be happy to start something pro one day, if I would feel able and also really want that. Right now it's too early. I guess I just enjoy playing very much and it's enough. I did record on my phone about a hundred songs that just came like that (only the singing). I should try to write the guitar part that goes with it...but it's precisely the type of thing I feel unable to do for now lol 😋

So the first point i quoted from you is quoted cause this is me now. I'm practically a loner. Mostly out of choice. When I recorded those two albums I recorded everything on my own including all vocals. If you're talented then you may be able to pick up other instruments. With recording software you're able to record everything on your own, no novice musicians and no shitty attitudes. Although it does take another talent with handling the software and mixing and mastering. I continue to learn as I go along however, I'm into rough mixes anyways for the most part. That's my inner Paul Westerberg. 

I don't know if it's great but it's what I consider my first real job. I had the advantage of doing it as a young person. It's a struggle though. Sure, gigs are fun and for that moment you're practically living a dream but off stage life can be rough. Holes in your only pair of jeans, eating scraps of food that your friends leave behind and trying to stretch $20 over a course of a month lmao I will say I have no regrets I went for it. It didn't fall into place but as a band we achieved lots of things and won local awards on several occasions (both fan voted and awarded by a committee). The one thing that left me on the hook was that we disbanded during a professional recording process but we did record an EP.  Our producer for the upcoming album is actually a rockstar who has a 7x platinum album. He's still someone I keep in touch with and we shoot the shit about music from time to time. I made up for it later with those two albums I recorded however, the music I wrote for those was significantly different. 

The weirdest thing about doing it professionally was when I was asked a few times for my autograph. I wasn't famous so I was taken aback the first time. We got a drumstick and signed it as a band and gave it to the girl. The other time was a media guy asked for my autograph. I jokingly said "hold onto it cause it's gonna be worth something one day" and laughed. The guy quoted me in the article and ended saying he would hold onto it cause he believes it will be. Poor guy it's not worth anything 😂

I will say the best thing about all of it was the interaction with fans. I loved fan responses in songs and I really loved seeing dancing and moshing. I liked meeting the new fans after the show and just hearing what type of music was influencing them and talking about random stuff. Meeting the other artists was awesome as well. I also have played in two legendary venues. I've played in venues where The Rolling Stones, Elvis Costello, Rollins Band, Cro Mags, The Casualties and The Forgotten Rebels have played as well as many more acts. The saddest thing was during the end of the band we were about to book a gig at another legendary venue where Green Day played in '93. Black Flag has also played there as well as other several great punk acts. 

Music is an amazing thing for yourself and to share with people. One of the biggest things about my whole music career was that my fiance never actually got to see me play during that time. We actually got together for our 10th anniversary and she got to see us play. She was the only one there. The only documented thing from the day was the last ever band picture. People were actually excited to see we were together. Sadly, my best friend who was in the band is no longer on speaking terms with me. The chapter officially ended on this band but either way I have bills to pay, a job to perform at and my health wouldn't support the lifestyle anymore.

 

 

[desertrose]

 

 

[jengd]

The huge screen looks like a really good quality one, hope they keep it for the Hella Mega tour.

[RedundantIdiot]

I said before these two gigs that I didn't mind what the setlists were just as long as we got good footage and pictures from the gigs. Thankfully that's exactly what we got, but I'll be sad if GD have gone back to America because I'd hoped that they'd go around Europe and promote the album like when they visited the UK, France and Germany when doing the EMAs three years ago. 

[jengd]

Pretty sure they have gone back to the US from their IG posts.  Billie and Adie will be keen to get home and see their SWMRS family.

[The Bellie]

Maybe they'll do more stuff before their first shows next year, but if they do as usual they'll probably stay in the US. For me it would be okay, I feel more than treated to have seen them in Spain, and it was so much easier and quicker than going to the US. If they do more secret shows, GD should ideally go in places they don't use to. Like in the middle of nowhere in a poor Eastern Europe country, for fans who don't have the leisure to travel, even less travel overseas.

[The Bellie]

6 hours ago, Sheenius said:

So the first point i quoted from you is quoted cause this is me now. I'm practically a loner. Mostly out of choice. When I recorded those two albums I recorded everything on my own including all vocals. If you're talented then you may be able to pick up other instruments. With recording software you're able to record everything on your own, no novice musicians and no shitty attitudes. Although it does take another talent with handling the software and mixing and mastering. I continue to learn as I go along however, I'm into rough mixes anyways for the most part. That's my inner Paul Westerberg. 

 

Music is an amazing thing for yourself and to share with people. One of the biggest things about my whole music career was that my fiance never actually got to see me play during that time. We actually got together for our 10th anniversary and she got to see us play. She was the only one there. The only documented thing from the day was the last ever band picture. People were actually excited to see we were together. Sadly, my best friend who was in the band is no longer on speaking terms with me. The chapter officially ended on this band but either way I have bills to pay, a job to perform at and my health wouldn't support the lifestyle anymore.

 

I'm just quoting two paragraphs but I read you in full! Well, I definitely would have a hard time to see me doing this. Most of all, I don't have enough self confidence, as a musician, but probably even more as a person. I don't see myself as ever having fans, for instance. I'm just the person most people hate and shun . And I have a weird voice also. When I speak anywhere people turn their head and look at me in a weird way. I think the singing is a bit better now but anyway. Well, I'm a bit more laid-back on all that thanks to Green Day. You just have to make fun of being weird and different. I also like to be alone, more than before. I still think it would be cool to start something if, after progressing more, I want that, and feel confident enough.

My guitar teacher who the first encouraged me to write songs and start a band has himself been in a band ten years ago. I heard some stuff and they were good, but they never managed to access any significant level of notoriety, and the pace of that lifestyle was too hard to keep up without sufficient recognition behind, so they ended up dropping the whole thing. I don't know when exactly you first started and if it depends also on where you live, but it sure must be very difficult for a band right now to come through, rock is not what works the best now, and there are no more independent producers. If you start as nobody you have to look straight ahead, give yourself at 200%, and even then, nothing is sure. What is sure is that music will always be that amazing thing to have and share, yeah. I guess you must also be happy to have had your own band, even if perhaps you have a more ordinary job now. So many people would never give themselves the chances to even dream about something for their lives, else than the ready-made path, and try to concretize that dream. Problem for me is I don't have any dream job or lifestyle, and I don't find anything in which I fit either. I could be a writer, but I don't know if it's any more simpler than having a band, today 😂

[MillenniumFan]

3 hours ago, jengd said:

Pretty sure they have gone back to the US from their IG posts.  Billie and Adie will be keen to get home and see their SWMRS family.

Not sure who was left in charge of determining the stage's basic setup, might have been MTV rather than Green Day's tour crew, although I could be wrong. 

[jetsrule128]

Looks like Mike went home. Kevin went to London. No idea about the other 4