Green Day on Howard Stern (Sirius XM)

[Guest]

8 hours ago, SnaggletoothRecords said:

For me, that special moment that I'm wishing for on this upcoming tour is Stuck With Me. Last time it was played was Irving Plaza 2012. 

They played it once on the RevRad tour! I just want to hear songs from Insomniac. Why oh why are they ignoring that album, and why do they insist on playing the same shit for years? (Rhetorical question so no need for answers with shitty arguments defending their setlist) 

[Yosuke Hanamura]

Better question: Why is the good stuff played overseas?

[Beerjeezus]

1 hour ago, Yosuke Hanamura said:

Better questuon: Why is the good stuff played overseas?

The States get all secret shows, so they make up by playing two or three rare songs in Europe  I´d like a proper answer, though - maybe they think the crowds are different?

[Yosuke Hanamura]

34 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

The States get all secret shows, so they make up by playing two or three rare songs in Europe  I´d like a proper answer, though - maybe they think the crowds are different?

Would make sense for them to assume so. At least Europeans have some actual taste in music. Unless I’m talking out of my ass, I dunno.

[SumDay]

7 hours ago, That Dude said:

Just now getting around to watching these performances and gosh darn they sound amazing!  

The only weird thing is that I'm used to seeing Billie working the crowd and he's not doing it here for obvious reasons (but it would be HILARIOUS if he tried to work Howard Stern and his minions, could you imagine?!!!)   

Onto more serious things, 

I really loved hearing them discuss "Wake Me Up When September Ends".   When my grandfather died in September of 2006, I will never forget my mother referencing this song with tears in her eyes while we were driven to the graveside.  And she has since passed herself.     Man.       Green Day has been something my whole family has shared, which is really special.   My mom died shortly before 21st Breakdown and....man.   I know she got to hear something from that album, either the title track or "Know your Enemy".   

Man.  

This song.   

Man, come here & let me hug you 

[LaughingClock]

On 10/10/2019 at 6:49 AM, jengd said:

@Im.a.basket.case Thank you so much for this but Howard Stern and Sirius WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT IF YOU DON'T TELL ANYONE AND THEY CANT HEAR IT, sorry, getting tired of the usual bullshit around different regions, and having to pay for radio etc etc.   😬

I’m reading this and you guys don’t know the trick? They always have a promotion. Just tell Sirius you want the $25 for 5.5 months of all the channels but some of the sports ones and I’ve been doing that for years. One time they told me no and so I let it expire and they turned it back on. I use Sirius about 3% of my audio exploitation so doesn’t matter to me. (They will say no until you get to “customer retention” and then they will do it to keep you. You are worth more to them at 25 then zero as long as they don’t feel like you’re devaluing the brand).8

HS loves GD and he’s the best interviewer alive.

22 hours ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said:

Yes this feeling when you wait to hear a song for sooooo long and they finally did it while you're there.
I'm still waiting for the moment that I'm gonna heard Murder City live.

2009 tour.

[Todd]

So since no one’s brought it up, I guess I will. I thought that story about Billie Joe crying in his room yelling “Wake me up when September ends!” at his mom was one of those bullshit tumblr stories? Billie neither denied nor confirmed it in the interview. Am I wrong, is it actually a true story? 

[pacejunkie punk]

40 minutes ago, Todd said:

So since no one’s brought it up, I guess I will. I thought that story about Billie Joe crying in his room yelling “Wake me up when September ends!” at his mom was one of those bullshit tumblr stories? Billie neither denied nor confirmed it in the interview. Am I wrong, is it actually a true story? 

I thought it was made up too. Billie didn’t seem to address it directly it was like he didn’t want to contradict him and wanted to move off the subject as soon as possible anyway. He seemed to speak generally to the title so it wasn’t clear. I’ve never seen an actual source for the story. 

[Squashie]

21 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I thought it was made up too. Billie didn’t seem to address it directly it was like he didn’t want to contradict him and wanted to move off the subject as soon as possible anyway. He seemed to speak generally to the title so it wasn’t clear. I’ve never seen an actual source for the story. 

Same here as well

[Verycool99]

2 hours ago, Todd said:

So since no one’s brought it up, I guess I will. I thought that story about Billie Joe crying in his room yelling “Wake me up when September ends!” at his mom was one of those bullshit tumblr stories? Billie neither denied nor confirmed it in the interview. Am I wrong, is it actually a true story? 

I’m pretty sure it is just some made up bs that stern probably heard or read when looking up the song, but Billie just didn’t want to say anything about it and didn’t directly answer that part

[Lenny]

14 hours ago, Nightlife said:

They played it once on the RevRad tour! I just want to hear songs from Insomniac. Why oh why are they ignoring that album, and why do they insist on playing the same shit for years? (Rhetorical question so no need for answers with shitty arguments defending their setlist) 

Which show? Is there a video? 

but yeah they tend to just dance around insomniac too much in the setlist. I really think it's time to shake up Brain Stew. Just boring after hearing it live over the last 10 years over and over. 

I think Stuck With Me and Geek Stink Breath would add some life to the setlist and fairly represent the album. 

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, SnaggletoothRecords said:

Which show? Is there a video? 

Here

[The Grohl]

12 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

The States get all secret shows, so they make up by playing two or three rare songs in Europe  I´d like a proper answer, though - maybe they think the crowds are different?

This is how Muse operates. They assume only fans overseas know more of their catalog or their bsides and will play rare stuff over there while the states get fucking Starlight for the millionth time. It's such a shitty assumption especially because their catalog is readily available on streaming so I'm sure more people are familiar with their deep cuts.

[rev]

Just curious, in the beginning when Howard asks if it's Father of All... or Father of All Motherfuckers and they go on to agree that on regular radio "they guess" that it has to be Father of All...

Something that has stuck with me for so long is Green Day not liking censorship. I could had sworn back when either AI or 21CB was released that GD refused to sell their album in Walmart because they wanted to sell a censored version of the album? 

Am I making this up or just remembering something like this happening when it really didn't? The point is, i'm surprised they aren't pressing the fact that the album is FOAM and not just FOA even in the mainstream. It was Billie's idea to have Motherfucker in the title (even knowing that it obviously wouldn't be said anywhere mainstream or on air or on TV or showing the cover say Motherfucker). 

Maybe i'm just harping on this way too much, I don't know!

[Beerjeezus]

10 minutes ago, rev said:

Just curious, in the beginning when Howard asks if it's Father of All... or Father of All Motherfuckers and they go on to agree that on regular radio "they guess" that it has to be Father of All...

Something that has stuck with me for so long is Green Day not liking censorship. I could had sworn back when either AI or 21CB was released that GD refused to sell their album in Walmart because they wanted to sell a censored version of the album? 

Am I making this up or just remembering something like this happening when it really didn't? The point is, i'm surprised they aren't pressing the fact that the album is FOAM and not just FOA even in the mainstream. It was Billie's idea to have Motherfucker in the title (even knowing that it obviously wouldn't be said anywhere mainstream or on air or on TV or showing the cover say Motherfucker). 

Maybe i'm just harping on this way too much, I don't know!

You remember it correctly - they refused to censor 21CB so Walmart refused to sell it.

A lot has changed since then, though. It makes sense for them to accept censorship when they're doing HM and writing jingles. They left their principles somewhere on the way to the bank 

[Yosuke Hanamura]

13 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

You remember it correctly - they refused to censor 21CB so Walmart refused to sell it.

A lot has changed since then, though. It makes sense for them to accept censorship when they're doing HM and writing jingles. They left their principles somewhere on the way to the bank 

They didn’t exactly censor the actual album though, and in the AI era, Tre did say that they can censor the however many curse words they want, as long as their message gets across.

[Alan86]

If they were really worried about censorship they would not have called the album Father of all Motherfuckers in the first place. They’ve backed down on censorship before though, they recorded a radio friendly version of the single “kill the dj” , but again a clean version of that song is not something that could be purchased, as far as I’m aware it was just for radio.

By the way the clean version “Hold him under water till he suffocates and drowns” is much more graphic than the uncensored version 

[Hermione]

The album won't be censored. Words being censored on radio isn't the same thing as creating and releasing a censored version of an album (which is what they "refused to do"). Green Day lyrics or titles with swearing have been censored on certain tv/radio and on the outside of albums in record shops etc their whole career.

[Yosuke Hanamura]

33 minutes ago, Alan86 said:

If they were really worried about censorship they would not have called the album Father of all Motherfuckers in the first place. They’ve backed down on censorship before though, they recorded a radio friendly version of the single “kill the dj” , but again a clean version of that song is not something that could be purchased, as far as I’m aware it was just for radio.

You are able to purchase the censored version of the albums, but only on iTunes.

[WhiteTim]

1 hour ago, Alan86 said:

If they were really worried about censorship they would not have called the album Father of all Motherfuckers in the first place. They’ve backed down on censorship before though, they recorded a radio friendly version of the single “kill the dj” , but again a clean version of that song is not something that could be purchased, as far as I’m aware it was just for radio.
By the way the clean version “Hold him under water till he suffocates and drowns” is much more graphic than the uncensored version 

It’s weird they recorded clean lyrics for it for the radio but they didn’t use the radio version on the edited version of Uno 

on the edited version of Uno the cuss words was blanked out 

[Alan86]

4 hours ago, WhiteTim said:

It’s weird they recorded clean lyrics for it for the radio but they didn’t use the radio version on the edited version of Uno 

on the edited version of Uno the cuss words was blanked out 

That is very strange. The radio version isn’t great anyway although I do prefer that lyric “Hold him under water till he suffocates and drowns” more than “hold him under water till that motherfucker drowns.

[Lenny]

On 10/18/2019 at 1:35 PM, Nightlife said:

Here

well if they play it this time around I hope it's better than that haha 

billie couldnt remember the lyrics too well

[The Bellie]

On 10/14/2019 at 2:18 PM, Todd said:

That’s your third “fuck Kevin” post in this thread. Please stay on topic  

But I was explaining what I meant in the previous one 

On 10/14/2019 at 6:46 PM, Hermione said:

Most of the posts about it are jokes at this point Most of the posts about it are jokes at this point and based on the pretty straightforward idea that when someone behaves in a shitty way and doesn't apologise you might not have a high opinion of them. It isn't a case of just judging someone's personal life, he chose to involve his following of Green Day fans in his bad behaviour and has done nothing to try and make amends, and Green Day fans are allowed to not like him as a result. Also like, Kevin is likeable and talented and people are allowed to be pleased to see him playing with the band. I don't particularly care about Jeff one way or the other but I think Kevin is great and I hope he stays.

For me, the fuck Kevin thing is a joke too... but it's precisely the very widespread "fuck Jeff" thing on here as opposing Jeff to Kevin that made me start with the fuck Kevin, because if we can fuck freely and gratuitously so much one of them on here, why not the other? I don't find this made up opposition right or fair (what you say above is a way of seeing things that I don't share, I don't think Jeff did nothing to make amends, i don't think we can even judge what he should've done in the situation he got in). I have no opinion about Kevin, he's a good guitar player but I've never had any thing for him, for Jeff either I haven't but i don't think we, from our position, can judge Jeff as an asshole (some people can find him likeable and talented as well, and are allowed to want him find his place back in the band), that's about it for me. I feel like having this widespread judgement about them too and the opposition created between both is like a group feeling powerful over sticking to someone particular / denigrating someone in particular. That's just how I feel about it. Everyone is allowed to think as they want of course

On 10/14/2019 at 6:46 PM, Hermione said:

Loved the interview and performance!

Agree 

[Hermione]

2 hours ago, The Bellie said:

But I was explaining what I meant in the previous one 

For me, the fuck Kevin thing is a joke too... but it's precisely the very widespread "fuck Jeff" thing on here as opposing Jeff to Kevin that made me start with the fuck Kevin, because if we can fuck freely and gratuitously so much one of them on here, why not the other? I don't find this made up opposition right or fair (what you say above is a way of seeing things that I don't share, I don't think Jeff did nothing to make amends, i don't think we can even judge what he should've done in the situation he got in). I have no opinion about Kevin, he's a good guitar player but I've never had any thing for him, for Jeff either I haven't but i don't think we, from our position, can judge Jeff as an asshole (some people can find him likeable and talented as well, and are allowed to want him find his place back in the band), that's about it for me. I feel like having this widespread judgement about them too and the opposition created between both is like a group feeling powerful over sticking to someone particular / denigrating someone in particular. That's just how I feel about it. Everyone is allowed to think as they want of course

Agree 

I mean I was neutral on Jeff but then he encouraged GD fans to assist in harassing his ex, and hasn't apologised for that, and that lowered my opinion of him. I think it's fine for people to decide for themselves whether they like him, but that is a legitimate reason to not be a fan. I like Kevin because I think he's a great performer both in FBHT/The Longshot and with his own band Prima Donna, and when I met him he was super nice, so him being in Green Day is a very cool prospect to me. So like, hearing that he's playing with the band on the radio here is good.

 

[The Bellie]

23 hours ago, Hermione said:

I mean I was neutral on Jeff but then he encouraged GD fans to assist in harassing his ex, and hasn't apologised for that, and that lowered my opinion of him. I think it's fine for people to decide for themselves whether they like him, but that is a legitimate reason to not be a fan. I like Kevin because I think he's a great performer both in FBHT/The Longshot and with his own band Prima Donna, and when I met him he was super nice, so him being in Green Day is a very cool prospect to me. So like, hearing that he's playing with the band on the radio here is good.

 

People don't need a legitimate reason not to be a fan of someone anyway  Yeah your opinion seems the most widespread on here. I've never had any direct interaction with Kevin nor Jeff (the only indirect one, with Kevin, was showing a rather non gallant and immature side of him but that's one isolated impression on which I could never base myself to judge someone as whole), I don't know anything of them on a personal field and in that regard don't really care about any of them, the only things I have are my own impressions from the little I've seen, which don't matter in regard to whom should be in the band, I never felt it was up to me to suggest that anyway. It's really the opposition made between them (based on one hand on that break up of Jeff's expressed on social media in that unfortunate way, and on the other hand on Kevin's popularity among GD fans) that seems devoid of sense, and not right, in a moral way. It makes me think of some gratuitous social media lynching feeding an emulation based on someone's popularity, which makes no sense to me, and even more disturbs me. In short, denigrating someone to better flatter another, for whatever reasons, but the whole thing lacks decency and humility as fans. That's my point of view.

Apart from what I feel subjectively about them as persons (so not much), speaking of their respective contributions I've never had any problem with Jeff on vocals and guitar and whatever contribution he's made to Green day and Longshot (like I read sometimes on here), and while Kevin is an objectively good guitar player, I don't personally like his persona on stage or his singing. That being said independently from the opposition largely shared on here that I denounced.