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We all know Billie and his wife are pretty active when it comes to prevent climate change.

Yesterday my wife told me: Since him and his wife are flying so much around the globe it's a bit ironical that he involves himself to prevent climate change so much.

I had to thought about it for long.

What do you think about it, guys? 

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I mean, yeah it is, but no one can prevent the global warming with their own personal behavior. Industry is the problem. Obviously it's good to limit your individual carbon footprint and whatnot, but it will only do so much while someone else is mining coal like there's no tomorrow, so it's not the guy who flies a lot who's the main issue.

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Airplanes are some of the most polluting means of transport, but when you have to travel from one side of a continent to another, or from America to another continent, there’s not much alternative at the moment. Fighting the use of planes makes perfect sense when it comes to travels that have an available and reasonable train alternative (even tho for normal people sometimes costs are still an issue, so we need politics and government regulations to make it possible). So no, I would not consider this hypocritical, especially taking traveling by plane as a motivation. Unless we think to stop touring is a viable option. 

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1 minute ago, JOE THE X-KID said:

Global warming's fake anyway. Look into geoengineering.

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58 minutes ago, J a c said:

Airplanes are some of the most polluting means of transport, but when you have to travel from one side of a continent to another, or from America to another continent, there’s not much alternative at the moment. Fighting the use of planes makes perfect sense when it comes to travels that have an available and reasonable train alternative (even tho for normal people sometimes costs are still an issue, so we need politics and government regulations to make it possible). So no, I would not consider this hypocritical, especially taking traveling by plane as a motivation. Unless we think to stop touring is a viable option. 

It is. Do it like Greta. Take a boat and travel from sweden to the US.

Just kidding, I think Billie would drown if he loads the boad with his equipment. Not the best idea.

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1 hour ago, JOE THE X-KID said:

Global warming's fake anyway. Look into geoengineering.

You realise geoengineering is a theoretical solution (and not a good one) to global warming. So if Global Warming is fake, what is the need for geoengineering?

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I don't think his is being hypocretical that way. Let's say that his "job" is to tour and travel around the globe for that reason. It's not like he has many other options.

Also, if I remember corectly during triology era Mike's wife was posting pictures of them all traveling by bus while they were in Europe, so I guess that is alternative they choose instead of traveling with plane from one city to another.

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I assume, given their long term support of green (sic) issues, they do what they can to limit and offset their carbon footprints.  They could be worse and fly more privately like some do, but yes, what @WhiteTim  said.

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he also only uses plastic bags in his woodfire stove, just throws in full rolls of garbage bags. it's well known that nobody has a hotter house than the Armstrongs 

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1 hour ago, JOE THE X-KID said:

Global warming's fake anyway. Look into geoengineering.

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They mostly travel by bus between shows just flying between the continents. But regardless, I hate the argument that unless a person is doing something 100% “correctly” (whatever that means) they’re hypocrites or there is no point doing it at all. Everybody does a part and I think they’ve helped raise awareness plenty and do enough in their own lives to make a difference like we all try to. 

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It would only be hypocritical if they were like people shouldn't travel by plane or do anything that damages the environment but then did it themselves anyway, or if they were really condescending about it when they talked about that stuff. But they don't claim to be perfect or talk down to people, they just do what they can like the rest of us and don't claim otherwise, and promote that others should also do what they can. Not hypocritical.

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If it wasn’t air travel it would be something else.  They’re also big into motorcycles and classic cars and those aren’t environmentally friendly either.  They eat meat. You can pick on anything if you want to.

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And for his job he has to use means of travel, but the band has created compostable and fair trade coffee with eco frendly kureg cups

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No, this is real climate-change-related hypocrisy (apologies to non German speaking people out there, translation below)

Translation: 

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Basically, this social democrat (so left-leaning politician) talked big words about supporting Greta Thunberg and Fridays for Future, because "our kids will have to live with the consequences of all the irresponsible everyday things we adults are doing today". Then when it came to her own car, she didn't think about exchanging it (a big fuel guzzling Audi A8 Quattro) for a more eco-friendly model, instead just getting the same car in a different colour. Then an opposition party member from the further Left party "Die Linke" criticised this social democratic politician for her "blatant and irresponsible hypocrisy". The huge irony here: she ALSO drives a fuel-guzzling Audi (in this case an A6), which, like the social democrat's Audio A8, also emits more emissions than the EU limit. This is real hypocrisy and it's all the more relevant, because it's by people in power determining the lives of others. 

I think what Green Day are doing is perfectly in line with their values. So long as they don't wag the finger at others for doing the exact same thing as them, then it's only hypocrisy in as much as every human being is hypocritical in one way or another, but not in any way that should concern us. 

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