jengd Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 @ANTI‘s post is really interesting, we discussed at the time, the delay in the release of the video but I am struggling to think what happened to make it such a fiasco that the whole thing was scrapped. I can’t think it was just a few leaks, I really, really want to see this video now and am hopeful for more videos if that’s how creative they were all being! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, kaylubd said: To each their own. I see an asshole. Not saying he doesn't make some great stuff - he does - but I just don't like his demeanor. It depends on personalities and communication styles tbh I will say throughout my career though there's been a ton of super nice people that have no work ethic or lack execution skills. When the time comes to get the job done talk to me like an asshole and deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 37 minutes ago, SnaggletoothRecords said: It depends on personalities and communication styles tbh I will say throughout my career though there's been a ton of super nice people that have no work ethic or lack execution skills. When the time comes to get the job done talk to me like an asshole and deliver. My problem with Bayer is that his narratives (and especially his portrayal of women in them) are boring at best and super cliched and stereotypical at worst. I still cringe with the Whatsername scenes in JOS, and the less we talk about the Oh Love video, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, SnaggletoothRecords said: It depends on personalities and communication styles tbh I will say throughout my career though there's been a ton of super nice people that have no work ethic or lack execution skills. When the time comes to get the job done talk to me like an asshole and deliver. I don't have any career especially not in that type of scene but definitely people who are the most gifted and efficient can appear (I do say appear, it's some sort of public image they give, consciously or not) as extremely full of themselves but sometimes it's only a part of their personality, or it can simply come from the stress of having the responsibility to get things done and needing to be authoritative towards others and also self-indulgent in these moments. I've known people like that. The private aspect is not necessarily the same. I would only call assholes people I know to be some from experienced and/ or established stuff, otherwise I can dislike someone viscerally but it will only remain my own sensibility and interpretation there. Am I the only one not to dislike the Oh Love video? The girls are not necessary but they seem as much at their ease as the boys. Both are objects of desire for each other, none is placed above the other. They all just seemed cozy, so if it's cliché well it's also a verified cliché in this case as what's going on just seems to come naturally from both parts (and saying that I guess I can include the actors and not only the characters, they just seem to have fun filming that). I don't know, it never bothered me. As for that supposed other video of Foam, I'm not as desperate as you guys hacking, really? and asking that guy who made the comment? maybe it's all he looks for, posting that comment like that. Not saying it's not true, it seems sincere, but I just don't feel it to be that important to know every little detail about what the band might have or have not done. Especially for something like music video which (to me) is minor, and that the video we have is pretty cool already. Well, that's only me, not criticizing any of you guys who feel more hyped about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2mi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, The Bellie said: As for that supposed other video of Foam, I'm not as desperate as you guys hacking, really? and asking that guy who made the comment? maybe it's all he looks for, posting that comment like that. Not saying it's not true, it seems sincere, but I just don't feel it to be that important to know every little detail about what the band might have or have not done. Especially for something like music video which (to me) is minor, and that the video we have is pretty cool already. Well, that's only me, not criticizing any of you guys who feel more hyped about it Yes, hacking, i'm hiring someone as we speak, so if anyone wants the job, you can drop your curriculum fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ANTI said: My problem with Bayer is that his narratives (and especially his portrayal of women in them) are boring at best and super cliched and stereotypical at worst. I still cringe with the Whatsername scenes in JOS, and the less we talk about the Oh Love video, the better. Yeah that's fair. I definitely see what you're saying in the Oh Love video. For Jesus of Suburbia the story is drawn out entirely with characters and it could be said that the character fits into that stereotypical super cliched person. As we know now Whatsername is based off Amanda. I read a really great book about the band and Arica Pelino was heavily involved in the project. The way I perceived the information about Amanda actually fits with the portrayal of her in the video except of course the video is exaggerated. I thought during AI Bayer did a good job of giving us deeper insight to the story of the album. It was something beyond the lyrics and music. I'd give him heavy criticisms for the speaking parts in JOS and WMUWSE. We didn't need the dialogue. I'm 50/50 on the BOBD and Holiday videos. They don't necessarily contribute heavily to the storyline visually but are decent rock band videos. American Idiot was a great video and that video is the reason I'm even here today willing to discuss this in paragraphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, ANTI said: Yes, hacking, i'm hiring someone as we speak, so if anyone wants the job, you can drop your curriculum fellas You're not yet hiring if you want us to drop our curriculum well no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 14 hours ago, ANTI said: his story that the video was changed at last minute makes sense with the time gap between the audio and the video, the unreleased footage This is really interesting. My best guess is that the video was too controversial and flagged with a parental advisory/age restriction, which would have potentially heavily compromised the video performance on YT. Or it was just bad, who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 @J a c surely things like censorship etc are considered when the concept is being discussed, these (presumably) were professionals involved in making the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, jengd said: @J a c surely things like censorship etc are considered when the concept is being discussed, these (presumably) were professionals involved in making the video? Yeah that’s also true. Maybe they just didn’t like the final result. The line “lying in a bed of blood and money” made me really think of potentially graphic content. I was imaging some kind of “literal” visual translation for that bit of the song, especially since they were shooting the video in a hotel. Just speculating but you are right, that would have probably been part of a pre-approved script, so it doesn’t really make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, J a c said: Yeah that’s also true. Maybe they just didn’t like the final result. The line “lying in a bed of blood and money” made me really think of potentially graphic content. I was imaging some kind of “literal” visual translation for that bit of the song, especially since they were shooting the video in a hotel. Just speculating but you are right, that would have probably been part of a pre-approved script, so it doesn’t really make sense. Just makes it all the more intriguing though doesn't it? What can have gone wrong that made them bin it completely, the video is only a couple of minutes long after all, I wonder if it will ever surface in any form? I know Billie said it was a fiasco but I really hope that one pic of them in their red suits is not all we get from that shoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, jengd said: Just makes it all the more intriguing though doesn't it? What can have gone wrong that made them bin it completely, the video is only a couple of minutes long after all, I wonder if it will ever surface in any form? I know Billie said it was a fiasco but I really hope that one pic of them in their red suits is not all we get from that shoot! I am sure one day we will get it, together with the forever now music video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 8 hours ago, The Bellie said: You're not yet hiring if you want us to drop our curriculum well no thanks It's a two person operation, silly 28 minutes ago, jengd said: Just makes it all the more intriguing though doesn't it? What can have gone wrong that made them bin it completely, the video is only a couple of minutes long after all, I wonder if it will ever surface in any form? I know Billie said it was a fiasco but I really hope that one pic of them in their red suits is not all we get from that shoot! Honestly, I just want the Madonna Inn footage, i swear that's my dream place and if they only used the most boring room in the entire hotel for that shoot, I would be so sad. I need my tacky aesthetic fix 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 54 minutes ago, ANTI said: It's a two person operation, silly That only seems to validate my point, or else you're not being clear, silly yourself. You're sure you want to get into personal tackling? for someone respectfully expressing they don't have the same interest than you for something about the band? That's pretty poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 18 hours ago, ANTI said: So I was watching the comments on the video and one particularly called my attention, it was made by someone named Stephen Patt, i'll just copy and paste it here: "Dear Green Day--I'm fond of you. I really am. The new single (produced by brilliant studio wizard Butch Walker) is just a wonderful, exciting piece of music--brash, energetic, and really stretches your three talents to the max. I would say kudos...but...I was priveleged to get a look at the original video for the song, and it was just incredible. Visionary, bold, in synch with the song to the max. It was funny, moving, and at the same time, just pure rock and roll. The new tame video you have released (which steals quite a bit from the original) is perplexing at best. The old footage with the bars across the eyes? Really? It's scattershot (and possibly scatterbrained) vision is a huge disappointment. Who decided to abandon the original video? The monkey in the bathtub?" Normally, I wouldn't believe this kind of comments, but his story that the video was changed at last minute makes sense with the time gap between the audio and the video, the unreleased footage of Madonna Inn and Billie's comments about the making of. I wonder if they truly did make another video for whatever reason. Well, that would at least explain the rather boring FOAM video we got, cause in fact it really looks like it was hastily put together🤷♀️ Fake leaks, fake album cover, a real album cover that looks like a bad joke and now mystery-video - this whole thing truly is a cabinet of curiosities🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, J a c said: I am sure one day we will get it, together with the forever now music video I imagine somewhere there's a room with all the never surfaced Green Day stuff, like the place in Hogwarts, but with C & V, the Forever Now video, this video, the horror movie they never made, the AI musical pro-shot footage, soundboard recordings and most importantly Otis remixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, The Bellie said: That only seems to validate my point, or else you're not being clear, silly yourself. You're sure you want to get into personal tackling? for someone respectfully expressing they don't have the same interest than you for something about the band? That's pretty poor. Personal tackling? I thought it was clear the hacking part was a joke and you went along with it, so I made the comment in a joking manner using the same emoticon you did and as I understand, silly is a rather harmless word that is used in this kind of context, I swear it's not that deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, ANTI said: Personal tackling? I thought it was clear the hacking part was a joke and you went along with it, so I made the comment in a joking manner using the same emoticon you did and as I understand, silly is a rather harmless word that is used in this kind of context, I swear it's not that deep I reacted to the simple thought of hacking, without taking it either as a joke or seriously. I don't care about the legal aspect of the thing, but the symbolic (such a big idea for such a little item), and if it could be done, apparently some people would use this way to get the info. Knowing how far some people can go to find the least unveiled information about the boys, it makes little difference if it's a joke or not, to me. I didn't feel your "silly" as harmless, but if it's that, then all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: the AI musical pro-shot footage This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Off topic, but since I saw it here first- @J a c- Your avatar has my vote right now for best avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Montclare said: Off topic, but since I saw it here first- @J a c- Your avatar has my vote right now for best avatar. Thank you, I'm very proud of my fucking unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, The Bellie said: I reacted to the simple thought of hacking, without taking it either as a joke or seriously. I don't care about the legal aspect of the thing, but the symbolic (such a big idea for such a little item), and if it could be done, apparently some people would use this way to get the info. Knowing how far some people can go to find the least unveiled information about the boys, it makes little difference if it's a joke or not, to me. I didn't feel your "silly" as harmless, but if it's that, then all good Well, maybe I don't know the extent in which people stalk them as i'm literally on the end of the world, but yeah, hacking was intented as a exaggerated joke. I've always interpreted silly as something harmless, but maybe I missed a social cue idk, just to clear the air though, I know in the short time I've participated here that we've disagreed on most things, but I hope it's clear that it's not personal, it's something that happens and life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, J a c said: Thank you, I'm very proud of my fucking unicorn Oh god I had to zoom in to see what it is hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 hours ago, J a c said: Thank you, I'm very proud of my fucking unicorn Username change UNICORN ROOTER - you will clean up the awards😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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