pacejunkie punk Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: I suppose they didn’t do a club tour to make sure Hella Mega sells. I get that there were probably non compete distance restrictions too in their contract but they’re skipping whole states on the stadium tour that would have been outside the restriction zones they could have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: I get that there were probably non compete distance restrictions too in their contract but they’re skipping whole states on the stadium tour that would have been outside the restriction zones they could have played. And I think they should have because seeing the band play (preferably the new songs) would be the best hype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Down to #111 on Billboard 200 this week https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidana Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 they Should play the new songs like they did with trilogy and 21st century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Als5678ors2 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aidana Shyngysbayeva said: they Should play the new songs like they did with trilogy and 21st century They did that with those album? When the 21st Century Breakdown Tour came to south america only 4 songs from the album were played in my country. The trilogy songs were reduced to a similar number by the time 99 Revolutions Tour was ending. Let alone RevRad. Sadly, Green Day is now just Dookie and American Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidana Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, Als5678ors2 said: They did that with those album? When the 21st Century Breakdown Tour came to south america only 4 songs from the album were played in my country. The trilogy songs were reduced to a similar number by the time 99 Revolutions Tour was ending. Let alone RevRad. Sadly, Green Day is now just Dookie and American Idiot Before the start of 21st century tour they played the full album a few times, they also played almost every trilogy song before the beginning of that tour 5 minutes ago, Als5678ors2 said: They did that with those album? When the 21st Century Breakdown Tour came to south america only 4 songs from the album were played in my country. The trilogy songs were reduced to a similar number by the time 99 Revolutions Tour was ending. Let alone RevRad. Sadly, Green Day is now just Dookie and American Idiot ITs messed up that they played only 4 songs off 21st. In my opinion the guys are so used to playing the old stuff that they are now scared to try new act, and are not motivated enough to practice other songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Als5678ors2 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Aidana Shyngysbayeva said: Before the start of 21st century tour they played the full album a few times, they also played almost every trilogy song before the beginning of that tour I know, I'm sorry. I thought you meant on tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I do find the numbers to be low, especially since similar genre albums have done so much better recently with smaller fan bases. However, not every good album sells. Lana's NFR was critically acclaimed and didn't sell well. You need to be a T Swift or artist of the month to sell a lot of records nowadays. I kind of assumed GD could at least have good first week sales due to their large fan base, but they didn't. And rock generally doesn't do well in streaming. My main concern for Green Day is their direction. I liked the album. It was catchy and fun. But eventually we have to ask why they are still making music. Just to tour? Can't be for the sales. They seem like they are just pumping out songs like crazy but why? I'd like to hear another album that is very thought out and pushes them musically. FOAM sounded different but it wasn't challenging. It's standard GD. And they won't even play the new songs, which screams "legacy band" to me. I think they should focus on critical acclaim bc they will never get the sales anymore. I want to see some Album of the Year nods from them in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: I do find the numbers to be low, especially since similar genre albums have done so much better recently with smaller fan bases. However, not every good album sells. Lana's NFR was critically acclaimed and didn't sell well. You need to be a T Swift or artist of the month to sell a lot of records nowadays. I kind of assumed GD could at least have good first week sales due to their large fan base, but they didn't. And rock generally doesn't do well in streaming. My main concern for Green Day is their direction. I liked the album. It was catchy and fun. But eventually we have to ask why they are still making music. Just to tour? Can't be for the sales. They seem like they are just pumping out songs like crazy but why? I'd like to hear another album that is very thought out and pushes them musically. FOAM sounded different but it wasn't challenging. It's standard GD. And they won't even play the new songs, which screams "legacy band" to me. I think they should focus on critical acclaim bc they will never get the sales anymore. I want to see some Album of the Year nods from them in the future. It seems to me they aren't aiming for critical acclaim anymore or don't really have the ambition to do creatively challenging records (since 21CB). It's like at this point they're a legacy band that still does new music they find fun. FOAM is a continuation of Longshot, a project Billie did on his own and then toured bars with. I think both are great but when you compare them with Breakdown, you can tell they had very different goals with these records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I looked to see how each song is doing individually on Youtube, and it largely made sense (singles had more views, ones at the end had the fewest [people losing interest part way though the album and skipping the end]), but there was one outlier. In order of views (rounding)- FOA- 776,000 Oh Yeah- 308,000 Sugar Youth- 191,000 FRA- 187,000 MMOTR- 182,000 IWATT- 134,000 SYITH- 119,000 JOAH- 107,000 TTMAC- 100,000 Graffitia- 94,000 So despite not being a single, not having a video, and being in the second half of the album, Sugar Youth still has the third most views. I felt it would make sense for it to be the first single (most GD sounding song on the album) even before I looked at this. Wonder if it would have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I think (as others have previously mentioned) more copies sold the first week because of collectors (like myself) buying multiple copies and other long-term fans who'll just buy anything that has GD's name on it ! I bought three different colour version vinyls and a CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Releasig FRA (the weakest track) as an almost single and then Oh Yeah as the second single when it's also one of the weaker moments certainly doesn't help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Montclare said: I looked to see how each song is doing individually on Youtube, and it largely made sense (singles had more views, ones at the end had the fewest [people losing interest part way though the album and skipping the end]), but there was one outlier. In order of views (rounding)- FOA- 776,000 Oh Yeah- 308,000 Sugar Youth- 191,000 FRA- 187,000 MMOTR- 182,000 IWATT- 134,000 SYITH- 119,000 JOAH- 107,000 TTMAC- 100,000 Graffitia- 94,000 So despite not being a single, not having a video, and being in the second half of the album, Sugar Youth still has the third most views. I felt it would make sense for it to be the first single (most GD sounding song on the album) even before I looked at this. Wonder if it would have made a difference. FOA (6,4 million) and Meet Me on the Roof (1,8 million) had much more views, from where are your numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Flashback said: FOA (6,4 million) and Meet Me on the Roof (1,8 million) had much more views, from where are your numbers? That's for the music videos; my numbers above are the songs themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Montclare said: I looked to see how each song is doing individually on Youtube, and it largely made sense (singles had more views, ones at the end had the fewest [people losing interest part way though the album and skipping the end]), but there was one outlier. In order of views (rounding)- FOA- 776,000 Oh Yeah- 308,000 Sugar Youth- 191,000 FRA- 187,000 MMOTR- 182,000 IWATT- 134,000 SYITH- 119,000 JOAH- 107,000 TTMAC- 100,000 Graffitia- 94,000 So despite not being a single, not having a video, and being in the second half of the album, Sugar Youth still has the third most views. I felt it would make sense for it to be the first single (most GD sounding song on the album) even before I looked at this. Wonder if it would have made a difference. I just saw on my YouTube and Graffitia have 301k views until now by "Official Audio'" version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, legendary said: I just saw on my YouTube and Graffitia have 301k views until now by "Official Audio'" version. Weird. Green Day's channel (where I was getting these numbers) has it at 94,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Montclare said: Weird. Green Day's channel (where I was getting these numbers) has it at 94,000. It's because YouTube has two ways to listen. The version of your screenshot came from YouTube Music audio version, but you can listen It in a video uploaded on Green Day channel named like "Graffitia (Official Audio)" that properly is a almost static video that contains the song for YouTube normal users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, legendary said: It's because YouTube has two ways to listen. The version of your screenshot came from YouTube Music audio version, but you can listen It in a video uploaded on Green Day channel named like "Graffitia (Official Audio)" that properly is a almost static video that contains the song for YouTube normal users. Ah, gotcha, thanks. Looking at those numbers (official audio), Sugar Youth is actually the lowest on the album. I stand by my it should have been the first single opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Spotify streams for each song as of 2/25/2020 1:30pm Central Standard Time (USA) FOA: 14,670,816 FRA: 7,544,799 OY: 6,532,052 MMOTR: 3,050,951 IWATT: 1,608,041 SYITH: 1,521,149 SY: 1,513,112 JOAH: 1,400,446 TMAC: 1,358,278 Graf: 1,374,155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I also get the vibe Billie just wants to make standard songs and tour. I wish he pushed himself as a songwriter again. Guess his "ADHD" is just too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaslight13 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 hours ago, DadBod said: Spotify streams for each song as of 2/25/2020 1:30pm Central Standard Time (USA) FOA: 14,670,816 FRA: 7,544,799 OY: 6,532,052 MMOTR: 3,050,951 IWATT: 1,608,041 SYITH: 1,521,149 SY: 1,513,112 JOAH: 1,400,446 TMAC: 1,358,278 Graf: 1,374,155 How did you get those? I can't figure out how to see the streaming numbers for anything that's not in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 33 minutes ago, gaslight13 said: How did you get those? I can't figure out how to see the streaming numbers for anything that's not in the top 10. You have to use the desktop app and click on the album so that it is the only list showing, and off to the right there is a “popularity” bar. Just hover over it and the numbers pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Great to see that the album dropped only from #2 to #20 in Austria, although it got nearly no support from the biggest radio stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 1:28 PM, Montclare said: Graffitia- 94,000 This is a crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendary Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Sheenius said: This is a crime It's the perfect crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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