Zebahar Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I wonder if this comes down to Green Day themselves not being a marketable band. And by that, I mean they don’t generate enough buzz. Take Dave Grohl for example. He’s a very personable guy, doing fun interviews, and I think he even filled in for Jimmy Kimmel once as the host. It’s fun stuff like that which will generate buzz. Now look at Green Day. They did that little pizza making thing on Ellen, but they were pretty quiet through most of it. I know they do some interesting interviews, but I don’t think that’s enough anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Just to point out the actual data, I think these are pure album sales, not sure at what date, probably Monday. Nine sold 77.000 copies as pure sales in the first 7 days, 90k is including the streams generated consumption, which is not counted here. I think the same applies to the 90k RevRad sales someone mentioned, that is considering both pure album sales and stream generated. Needles to say, every year the impact of streams grows. Let’s see how this looks like on next week’s Billboard. The Hits Daily Double link had two sales totals, which someone pointed as likely pure and total sales. Total was projected 47k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zebahar said: I wonder if this comes down to Green Day themselves not being a marketable band. And by that, I mean they don’t generate enough buzz. Take Dave Grohl for example. He’s a very personable guy, doing fun interviews, and I think he even filled in for Jimmy Kimmel once as the host. It’s fun stuff like that which will generate buzz. Now look at Green Day. They did that little pizza making thing on Ellen, but they were pretty quiet through most of it. I know they do some interesting interviews, but I don’t think that’s enough anymore That’s why I wanted then to do Carpool Karaoke. They did well with mean tweets but that was very short alongside many other artists. They need something with more of the focus on them like a TV special or something. But I don’t know to what extent they’re interested in doing these silly social media things for attention. It’s all so different now from even just a few years ago when RevRad came out. They’re being treated as old and out of touch for the first time and I wonder if it’s surprised them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: The Hits Daily Double link had two sales totals, which someone pointed as likely pure and total sales. Total was projected 47k. Those are projections, that is the projected sales range, 42-47. It’s not actual data but a statistical estimation based on some samples this company is collecting, and there is a 5k margin of error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Those are projections, that is the projected sales range, 42-47. It’s not actual data but a statistical estimation based on some samples this company is collecting, and there is a 5k margin of error. So you think they will go from 47k to 90k? That much room for error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, DookieLukie said: So you think they will go from 47k to 90k? That much room for error? No absolutely, I was just point out that if those numbers refer to pure sales only, it will go up. I don’t think it’s gonna reach 90k regardless based on these numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I mean the Billboard charts aren't out yet, so we don't know for sure. It might be more successful overseas, at least that's what it looks like. Still, if those numbers are accurate, that would pretty much be a huge flop, which would indeed be disappointing. It might have to do with how messy everything was though. The length of the album, the awkward cover, the polarizing reception and the lack of success of the singles. And also, I hate to say it, but I think a lot of people simply don't like the album. I don't know. It certainly feels as if they're marketing this as if it cams out like 15 years ago, not in 2020. And I'm quite sure they want this to be a success, so it might come as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I don't think Green Day cares what it sells. I mean the singles were literally tracks 1, 2, and 3 in order. Doesn't seem like much thought was put into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: I don't think Green Day cares what it sells. I mean the singles were literally tracks 1, 2, and 3 in order. Doesn't seem like much thought was put into it. The label definitely cares though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 To be fair; FRA is not a single. It was released for the nhl partnership not radio/air play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: The label definitely cares though What label? Do they still have a label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: What label? Do they still have a label? I know you're joking but seriously, Warner can't be happy with their decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: I know you're joking but seriously, Warner can't be happy with their decisions They've made Warner a fortune. I assume they have some wiggle room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 10:49 AM, DadBod said: If it does, I doubt it will be on the broadcast. They haven’t shown rock/alternative categories in a while. I think they would show it as they'd be performing that night. The album is #1 right now and outselling Eminem which is pretty significant. I don't think they'd get snubbed. They've also made some huge appearances this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Sheenius said: I think they would show it as they'd be performing that night. The album is #1 right now and outselling Eminem which is pretty significant. I don't think they'd get snubbed. They've also made some huge appearances this time around. Where are you seeing that it's #1? Unless they were to win and also be a performer, I don't see the Grammy's broadcasting rock & alternative categories live. Sorry I just don't not matter how much they "outsell" Eminem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, DadBod said: Where are you seeing that it's #1? Unless there were to win and also be a performer, I do see the Grammy's broadcasting rock & alternative categories live. Sorry I just don't not matter how much they "outsell" Eminem... It's leading in sales right now someone on here posted the charts if I can find it for you I'll send it. I really do think this time they'll atleast be nominated. I really don't think they'll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Sheenius said: It's leading in sales right now someone on here posted the charts if I can find it for you I'll send it. I really do think this time they'll atleast be nominated. I really don't think they'll win. The only chart I've seen them being listed as #1 is the UK. In the US it's roughly around 5-7th. If you're referring to friday's list, that's not a true representation of a weeks worth of sales. People have been posting chart updates over the last 2 days. GD is only #1 on the UK list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, DadBod said: The only chart I've seen them being listed as #1 is the UK. In the US it's roughly around 5-7th. If you're referring to friday's list, that's not a true representation of a weeks worth of sales. People have been posting chart updates over the last 2 days. GD is only #1 on the UK list. I'm pretty sure it's #1 in Canada too Where is it showing it's 5th in US? I saw a US chart that placed it at #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Looks like it’s gonna debut as #1 in Australia as well (first time since AI), and it is dragging God’s favorite band in the top 40: https://themusic.com.au/news/green-day-father-all-motherfuckers-aria-chart-mid-weeks-12-feb-2020/dkNiaGtqbWw/12-02-20/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sheenius said: I'm pretty sure it's #1 in Canada too Where is it showing it's 5th in US? I saw a US chart that placed it at #1 Here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 US is just a different animal because of the size and variability of the population Is it possible though that the chart crave numbers are missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: US is just a different animal because of the size and variability of the population Is it possible though that the chart crave numbers are missing something? It is possible, but like you said, the US is just a beast and rock is not a dominating genre for sales or air play. I don't know how the US charts work. I saw another one that had GD listed at 7th for worldwide. It's posted in this thread a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Looks like it’s gonna debut as #1 in Australia as well (first time since AI), and it is dragging God’s favorite band in the top 40: https://themusic.com.au/news/green-day-father-all-motherfuckers-aria-chart-mid-weeks-12-feb-2020/dkNiaGtqbWw/12-02-20/ GFB also re-entered Billboard's rock albums at #32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I posted a link to the iTunes charts a few days ago, and so did someone else. And on those charts, they were pretty high in most countries. But that doesn't include streaming and physical copies. Maybe that's were some of the confusion comes from. All in all, it looks like it'll debut high in a lot of countries. It's only the US sales that look disappointing. There's more to the world than just America though, so the album could still be a success in other countries while it disappoints in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, DadBod said: Here: and they get another 5-6 days of sales before Tuesdays results. Not going terrible by any means. Does this count the pre-orders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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