Billie Joes Eyelids Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Saw this on twitter....accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: Saw this on twitter....accurate? #5 debut would be a bad look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: #5 debut would be a bad look. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039SweetChildren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 HDD is very accurate with their predictions. #5 sounds about right considering the singles haven't taken off, and given how polarizing this album is among the band's fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=319973 This site is reports #5 too. Isn't it only 4 days into the sales week? They don't get 7 days worth of sales? RevRad debuted at #1 with 95,000 units sold. Father of All...has about half as many at this point. In comparison, Blink's most recent album sold 94k in the first week. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039SweetChildren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=319973 This site is reports #5 too. Isn't it only 4 days into the sales week? They don't get 7 days worth of sales? RevRad debuted at #1 with 95,000 units sold. Father of All...has about half as many at this point. In comparison, Blink's most recent album sold 94k in the first week. Yikes. I believe these are projected sales for the entire week. It's looking like 42-47k including streaming, 35-40k of that in pure album sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, 1039SweetChildren said: I believe these are projected sales for the entire week. It's looking like 42-47k including streaming, 35-40k of that in pure album sales Gotcha. So still half of what RevRad, and more recently, NINE sold in their first week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039SweetChildren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, DookieLukie said: Gotcha. So still half of what RevRad, and more recently, NINE sold in their first week. Yep.. Not really strong at all, but February is also historically a bad month for albums sales. I was surprised when it was announced that this was coming out in Feb despite being ready in the fall, the best time to sell. Even so, it seems like a lot of their core fanbase was turned off by the singles (and maybe the whole album) based on social media reactions. These figures confirm that. A band with a strong core like Green Day should easily perform better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, 1039SweetChildren said: Yep.. Not really strong at all, but February is also historically a bad month for albums sales. I was surprised when it was announced that this was coming out in Feb despite being ready in the fall, the best time to sell. Even so, it seems like a lot of their core fanbase was turned off by the singles (and maybe the whole album) based on social media reactions. These figures confirm that. A band with a strong core like Green Day should easily perform better than this. I thought the 5 month pre-order period would lead to a big chunk of first-week sales. Why is Fall better for sales? Do people listen to music in the Fall more? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039SweetChildren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, DookieLukie said: I thought the 5 month pre-order period would lead to a big chunk of first-week sales. Why is Fall better for sales? Do people listen to music in the Fall more? lol The 5 month pre-order period would have benefited more if the lead single performed well. The loyal fans are usually the ones pre-ordering and it really just looks like a lot didn't show up for this release. The guys took that gamble when they decided to go for a different sound. Consumerism is generally higher in the fall with the holidays and stuff, and things die down in the winter. Streaming has kind of bridged the gap in a lot of ways, but rock bands like Green Day don't get a huge boost from streaming. Their bulk is in traditional album sales. Basically all the albums ranked above them are fueled by strong streaming numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, 1039SweetChildren said: The 5 month pre-order period would have benefited more if the lead single performed well. The loyal fans are usually the ones pre-ordering and it really just looks like a lot didn't show up for this release. The guys took that gamble when they decided to go for a different sound. Consumerism is generally higher in the fall with the holidays and stuff, and things die down in the winter. Streaming has kind of bridged the gap in a lot of ways, but rock bands like Green Day don't get a huge boost from streaming. Their bulk is in traditional album sales. Basically all the albums ranked above them are fueled by strong streaming numbers. Yeah they picked some dud singles. FRA is the worst on the album. Oh Yeah! is the second worst. Father of All...is a good track but it probably would have been better as a hidden gem rather than a lead single. Honestly, all of the songs on FOAM are solid but none of them are "hit single" material, which I think makes for a better album because it's very consistent in quality. At this point, GD could write the best song ever made and it wouldn't get much radio play. They should focus on legacy over popularity at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039SweetChildren Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Yeah they picked some dud singles. FRA is the worst on the album. Oh Yeah! is the second worst. Father of All...is a good track but it probably would have been better as a hidden gem rather than a lead single. Honestly, all of the songs on FOAM are solid but none of them are "hit single" material, which I think makes for a better album because it's very consistent in quality. At this point, GD could write the best song ever made and it wouldn't get much radio play. They should focus on legacy over popularity at this point. Yeah, agree. It’s apparent they weren’t chasing any mainstream success with this album. Just look at the blatantly uncommercial title. They’re having a good time and letting people react however they want with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We have a #9 in the Japanese Album charts, glad that it gets recognition as well in Asia. Haha and #6 is an album called „Lookie“ that looks like the Dookie cover 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Those numbers look really weak 🤔. I thinks that's even lower than Dos and Tre, and they flew pretty much under the radar. Maybe it's all the negative buzz? I don't know. But we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Seeing what the other nine artists on the chart are, I guess this isn't that bad for a traditional rock band or is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_19 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 so there was that article yesterday about Father of All cruising towards a #1 in the UK, so why is it performing so much better over here? As far as I'm aware they've not even been over here to do any promotion, other than written interviews with Kerrang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerjeezus said: Seeing what the other nine artists on the chart are, I guess this isn't that bad for a traditional rock band or is it? Honestly, I think it's quite bad :D. RevRad sold over 90,000 in it's first week, so did the last album by Blink. And I think the Foo Fighters sold more than 100k copies of Concrete and Gold in the debut week 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenalert997x Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I think the stupid cover itself has an impact on the sales list. But first bad choice of singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: Honestly, I think it's quite bad :D. RevRad sold over 90,000 in it's first week, so did the last album by Blink. And I think the Foo Fighters sold more than 100k copies of Concrete and Gold in the debut week 😅 Ok, in this comparison it does look bad. RevRad sold twice as much (and I remember the GDC opinion was that it wasn't selling well lol). RR had advantages over FOAM though - it came out in fall, had well received singles, and its reception wasn't controversial at all, everyone kinda liked it. 2 minutes ago, greenalert997x said: I think the stupid cover itself has an impact on the sales list. But first bad choice of singles. good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunt Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Who the hell is Roddy Ricch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duhhan1023 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It's bad, considering that the other albums were not new releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just to point out the actual data, I think these are pure album sales, not sure at what date, probably Monday. Nine sold 77.000 copies as pure sales in the first 7 days, 90k is including the streams generated consumption, which is not counted here. I think the same applies to the 90k RevRad sales someone mentioned, that is considering both pure album sales and stream generated. Needles to say, every year the impact of streams grows. Let’s see how this looks like on next week’s Billboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, Ross_19 said: so there was that article yesterday about Father of All cruising towards a #1 in the UK, so why is it performing so much better over here? As far as I'm aware they've not even been over here to do any promotion, other than written interviews with Kerrang Yeah, I also read an article that said that it might debut on #1 in Australia. Sometimes I think that at this point, Green Day is bigger outside of the states these days :D. I don't know if the messy roll out had an impact on US sales. Maybe so, whereas all of that doesn't really matter outside of America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luketrebilliemike Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, greenalert997x said: I think the stupid cover itself has an impact on the sales list. But first bad choice of singles. It’s almost like they didn’t want this album to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Aaaaand we're in another loop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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