Lenny Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: The "Oh Yeah"-video is up to 1.4 million views now. I have no idea if that's good or not but I was wondering if YouTube-views are relevant for the chart performance of a song. Like, are they taken into consideration? 🤔 YouTube does not contribute to chart performance however, YouTube has a wide audience so it's really great for making people aware that you're dropping an album or have a new single. Oh Yeah shot up FAST to a million but now it seems to be having trouble getting over to the 2 million mark. However, it's a really good video so I assume it will eventually catch up and pass FOAMF's music video. Streams from Spotify and Apple music play a part in some chart performances and others are strictly airplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sheenius said: YouTube does not contribute to chart performance however, YouTube has a wide audience so it's really great for making people aware that you're dropping an album or have a new single. Oh Yeah shot up FAST to a million but now it seems to be having trouble getting over to the 2 million mark. However, it's a really good video so I assume it will eventually catch up and pass FOAMF's music video. Streams from Spotify and Apple music play a part in some chart performances and others are strictly airplay. They do count for the song specific charts, and I think starting from sometimes in 2020 they will start to count also for album sales charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: They do count for the song specific charts, and I think starting from sometimes in 2020 they will start to count also for album sales charts. I guess YouTube does own everything now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sheenius said: YouTube does not contribute to chart performance however, YouTube has a wide audience so it's really great for making people aware that you're dropping an album or have a new single. Oh Yeah shot up FAST to a million but now it seems to be having trouble getting over to the 2 million mark. However, it's a really good video so I assume it will eventually catch up and pass FOAMF's music video. Streams from Spotify and Apple music play a part in some chart performances and others are strictly airplay. Doesn't YouTube have a small contribution to streaming figures though? And streaming contributes to chart performances. Or am I wrong? I don't think the new songs are doing very well at all in terms of streaming on Spotify and YouTube. I feel like RevRad's songs performed a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sheenius said: I guess YouTube does own everything now Yeah well, it’s where most of the music is consumed nowadays, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Doesn't YouTube have a small contribution to streaming figures though? And streaming contributes to chart performances. Or am I wrong? I don't think the new songs are doing very well at all in terms of streaming on Spotify and YouTube. I feel like RevRad's songs performed a lot better So according to some people it's either already changed or is about to change. YouTube will count in some way, shape or form for streaming numbers. The thing is a lot of people are saying the songs aren't doing well but no one's really provided any quantifiable information about what doing well is. Do we have an example of an act or single that's comparable and how it did in the first 2 weeks for YouTube and Spotify streaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sheenius said: So according to some people it's either already changed or is about to change. YouTube will count in some way, shape or form for streaming numbers. The thing is a lot of people are saying the songs aren't doing well but no one's really provided any quantifiable information about what doing well is. Do we have an example of an act or single that's comparable and how it did in the first 2 weeks for YouTube and Spotify streaming? This is when they started to count YT views: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/arts/music/billboard-makes-youtube-part-of-hot-100-formula.html . Only for record sales they will start from 2020. I think we have to wait for Billboard to release its charts next week to see how well it is performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, Sheenius said: YouTube does not contribute to chart performance however, YouTube has a wide audience so it's really great for making people aware that you're dropping an album or have a new single. Oh Yeah shot up FAST to a million but now it seems to be having trouble getting over to the 2 million mark. However, it's a really good video so I assume it will eventually catch up and pass FOAMF's music video. Streams from Spotify and Apple music play a part in some chart performances and others are strictly airplay. Thanks, I wasn't sure. That's how it's been in Germany, at least in the past, but I don't know if they changed it or not. As for the US, I think you have a different chart system. We basically just have the single charts, which take streaming and sales into consideration. There's no such thing as alternative charts or something that takes airplay into consideration. So there's no realistic chance that the song will enter the German charts, so I was mostly curious about America. It would make sense to count YouTube as well though, since it's basically nothing different than streaming a song on Spotify. I do remember that both Bang Bang and Still Breathing were no. 1 on the Alternative Songs chart and from what I heard, that's probably the most relevant one. FOA didn't do that, so I guess it wasn't as successful as the first two singles from RevRad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 days in, the FOAM music videos had 1,114,639 views. It's also true that the video was released 9 days after the single, so it lost some of the "new song" effect. The original FOAM audio is not there anymore, but if I remember correctly it reached 1M after a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: Thanks, I wasn't sure. That's how it's been in Germany, at least in the past, but I don't know if they changed it or not. As for the US, I think you have a different chart system. We basically just have the single charts, which take streaming and sales into consideration. There's no such thing as alternative charts or something that takes airplay into consideration. So there's no realistic chance that the song will enter the German charts, so I was mostly curious about America. It would make sense to count YouTube as well though, since it's basically nothing different than streaming a song on Spotify. I do remember that both Bang Bang and Still Breathing were no. 1 on the Alternative Songs chart and from what I heard, that's probably the most relevant one. FOA didn't do that, so I guess it wasn't as successful as the first two singles from RevRad. Oh Yeah is due for a better performance on Alternative charts imo. Atleast if the trends in Alternative are the ones I'm hearing on my local Alternative stations. Where is Oh Yeah right now for # of Spotify streams? It had to have a nice early momentum just based on what type of song it is. 16 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: 5 days in, the FOAM music videos had 1,114,639 views. It's also true that the video was released 9 days after the single, so it lost some of the "new song" effect. The original FOAM audio is not there anymore, but if I remember correctly it reached 1M after a week or so. If you count the basic track on YT which was the first listening point then you're at 1.3M+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sheenius said: If you count the basic track on YT which was the first listening point then you're at 1.3M+ Well it’s hard to combine them, the audio video was removed from YT when the music video got released, so you can’t really merge them. But yes, I think they are comparable in terms of performance atm, maybe Oh Yeah! Is doing slightly better, but we should also see the Spotify numbers. Not sure where to find them 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Well it’s hard to combine them, the audio video was removed from YT when the music video got released, so you can’t really merge them. But yes, I think they are comparable atm. The audio was never removed. I'm listening to it right now. 600k+ atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Sheenius said: The audio was never removed. I'm listening to it right now. 600k+ atm. That’s the auto generated YT song audio, also Oh Yeah! Has one, the original one released by the GD page was removed from YT, it had 1,3M views or something similar when the music video got released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: That’s the auto generated YT song audio, also Oh Yeah! Has one, the original one released by the GD page was removed from YT, it had 1,3M views or something similar when the music video got released. Ok interesting. So they seem to be pacing around the same. Only difference is Oh Yeah got delivered to stations much faster than FOAMF so it's got an advantage on airplay charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Maybe that's also the reason why they don't make lyrics videos anymore? Because they want to get as many views on the main video as possible and no split? It's totally understandable, but I loved the lyrics videos of RevRad era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thatsername said: Maybe that's also the reason why they don't make lyrics videos anymore? Because they want to get as many views on the main video as possible and no split? It's totally understandable, but I loved the lyrics videos of RevRad era. I did love them too, hopefully once the album get released some of the non-single songs will get one. Now that YT views counts as record sales, it makes sense to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurhuan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: That’s the auto generated YT song audio, also Oh Yeah! Has one, the original one released by the GD page was removed from YT, it had 1,3M views or something similar when the music video got released. I have the link to the father of all (official audio). The audio have 1.5M views. My browser saved it because i listened to the song a lot for this link. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, arthurhuan said: I have the link to the father of all (official audio). The audio have 1.5M views. My browser saved it because i listened to the song a lot for this link. 🤣 Cool, so they just hidden it from the search results/listed videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 So do they only count the official audio for Youtube? Or also the video? And there's always the people who repost the song and people who wind up listening to that version instead. Guessing it's impossible to keep track of those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, Montclare said: So do they only count the official audio for Youtube? Or also the video? And there's always the people who repost the song and people who wind up listening to that version instead. Guessing it's impossible to keep track of those numbers. In theory, as far as I remember, they should automatically count all the views, both from official and unofficial sources, as long as the YT system recognize the song and attributes it to the track, it’s not a manual process (YT has its own “Shazam”, it’s sort of the same process used to automatically find copyright infringements) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebahar Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 When will we potentially begin seeing Oh Yeah on the charts? Aren’t they updated on Tuesday’s? or did MLK day delay that by a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Zebahar said: When will we potentially begin seeing Oh Yeah on the charts? Aren’t they updated on Tuesday’s? or did MLK day delay that by a day? It was released last Thursday, so I think it will likely appear on the next week Billboard charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Streaming update for the Album: Father of All.. Youtube: 5,567,730 views - Official video Youtube: 1,502,498 views - audio only (hidden from lists in September '19 after official video was released) Spotify: 11,186,810 plays Fire, Ready Aim YouTube: No official video - only audio: 1,867,067 views Spotify: 4,857,656 plays Oh Yeah! Youtube: 1,476,920 views (5 days live) Spotify: 1,132,366 plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 It's weird that the song (Oh Yeah) has more views than streams on Spotify. But I feel like streaming isn't their strength anyway, at least when it comes to the new material. I mean a little more than a million within five days isn't that much, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: It's weird that the song (Oh Yeah) has more views than streams on Spotify. But I feel like streaming isn't their strength anyway, at least when it comes to the new material. I mean a little more than a million within five days isn't that much, is it? Their monthly listeners is ~15.5m. I don't know where that lands them on the "popular" streaming lists for Spotify. Edit: It's probably helped that they released the official video the same day that the single went out instead of posting audio only on YT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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