Pereprimus Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Josh100_3 said: That’s why I’m so confused as to why the album isn’t out until February. like, what are they going to do for five months? Making new songs maybe i saw an interview Where they explained that « now that they are free agents, they could release new material alongside the new album » if i find the link i ´ll post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, kaylubd said: So...did anyone else stick around for the Cage the Elephant performance? I'm convinced Matt Shultz is fucked up on drugs. Like holy shit what is he doing on stage? Plus, he completely fell off stage. I was astonished yet confused and concerned while watching it. I haven’t seen it yet but that is concerning. Love CTE. Is Matt this year’s 2012 Billie? it’s interesting to me that they have Kevin in such a more visible position than Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I'm glad that they came back and did it the way they did, cool and passionate at the same time. Instead of worrying how much time is marked as left for you, you just play and care afterwards. it must feel for Billie as a buckle is complete in a way. 7 years is the right superstitious number for that About the crowd, I'm not really into saying "that crowd is shit" just because they don't jump all the time. That crowd seemed into it. Even in 2012 part of the crowd seemed into it. But some people may not be familiar with rock, or with the band, they may just be listening and taking it in. I doesn't mean they're careless or inattentive. Not of all them are for sure. Now I jump all the time at gigs but I know at the first it wasn't the case. You don't have to be showing to do anything particular to enjoy it. When Billie said "no one has the right to scream", it's funny because at that moment in the gig he had already had the time to capture the audience, and saying that as the opposite of what he was doing in 2012 when he was exhorting incessantly the crowd to be showingly reactive, was a fun way to make auto derision perhaps (who cares how much they scream really? at least, he has taken a step back about that since), and also to bring them to want to scream because they could easily have gotten the joke, and that you instinctively wanna do what people tell you not to do lol. Gonna throw an unpopular opinion but I don't prefer the original intro to BOBD to the way they played it during RevRad. During Rev Rad, the performances of that song were still killer and my fave vocal performances of it lie there. The intro played in a way or another doesn't have much importance to me 8 hours ago, cristian alexander said: and jeff matika????'???? there is some sort of consensus going on about him being undeserving to remain in the band since his messy break up with his girlfriend a little while ago (and an unfortunate social media spreading up of it by both of them), and some people want Kevin from Prima Donna to replace him in Green Day, since he's stayed pretty close to the band after playing with The Longshot. Regardless of Kevin and the place he will or will not have afterwards, I find pretty ridiculous (and pretty bad, to say it) that it would be (even more, purposefully) to Jeff's expense. That would be very irrelevant (from people to state it already, and for the band to do it for that precise reason). It would even be irrelevant just in short because Jeff is fine in Green Day. But right now the consensus that Kev must be kept and Jeff is an ass who must be thrown out seems so generalized here that I'm one of the very few expressing the inverse opinion, which is that GD is fine with Jeff #minority though 8 hours ago, desertrose said: Okay, Billie is way too cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pereprimus Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Fou de ah kerrang He continued: “It’s exciting, you know? But I mean I really kind of look forward to maybe actually putting out more music. I think just we finished our record contract… we’re free agents. So we’re just going to end up putting out more stuff. We’ll probably put out more stuff before the tour actually. And then I think not tour as long, but effective touring.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 So... is it now safe to assume Kevin is there to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: So... is it now safe to assume Kevin is there to stay? It’s really confusing to me because it appears that way, but Jeff has posted comments that make it sound like he’s coming back. So he’s either temporarily unavailable or he’s in denial. Did you see Sara’s story with all of them on the plane? Kev definitely looks like one of the guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: So... is it now safe to assume Kevin is there to stay? 4 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: It’s really confusing to me because it appears that way, but Jeff has posted comments that make it sound like he’s coming back. So he’s either temporarily unavailable or he’s in denial. Did you see Sara’s story with all of them on the plane? Kev definitely looks like one of the guys. Maybe they’ll keep Matika for the tambourine only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: It’s really confusing to me because it appears that way, but Jeff has posted comments that make it sound like he’s coming back. So he’s either temporarily unavailable or he’s in denial. Did you see Sara’s story with all of them on the plane? Kev definitely looks like one of the guys. Yes, that's why I'm curious about it. It looks like Kevin might be just stepping in while Jeff is busy with something else, but there's no sign on Jeff being busy with other projects and moreover he had said he couldn't make any commitments this fall because of Green Day...yet, he's not playing with them. I really don't know what to think. Like you say, either unavailable or in denial and I don't dare make any guesses. (Even though at this point I'm wondering if the "insider" who claimed Jeff got sacked may have been onto something. I didn't buy it at first but it's been 3 performances and still no sign of Jeff. Could be a coincidence, but still.) I didn't, but Kevin definitely fits in well. He was awesome in FBHT and in Longshot and it's just really really cool to see him with Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxboro Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Yes, that's why I'm curious about it. It looks like Kevin might be just stepping in while Jeff is busy with something else, but there's no sign on Jeff being busy with other projects and moreover he had said he couldn't make any commitments this fall because of Green Day...yet, he's not playing with them. I really don't know what to think. Like you say, either unavailable or in denial and I don't dare make any guesses. (Even though at this point I'm wondering if the "insider" who claimed Jeff got sacked may have been onto something. I didn't buy it at first but it's been 3 performances and still no sign of Jeff. Could be a coincidence, but still.) I didn't, but Kevin definitely fits in well. He was awesome in FBHT and in Longshot and it's just really really cool to see him with Green Day. Yeah, he’s definitely got more of that rock n roll feel to him. Plus i’ve always felt that (at least on social media) they Jeff is kinda obnoxious. I’ve seen him be really disrespectful to fans for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One_of_the_Whatsernames Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Green Day is a band that sounds incredible live. I didn’t expect any less from their performance, but I don’t know if it was just me or the audio/Billie’s mic was too quiet. He seemed to struggle through American Idiot and Father of All..., and their sound went back to normal during the rest of the performance. But because of this, I felt like Billie sang Father of All... again at the end to redo it essentially, sound fixed and all; and his voice was just exhausted. This isn’t against them, I’m certain it’s a technical issue they had. Anyone else feel the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, One_of_the_Whatsernames said: Green Day is a band that sounds incredible live. I didn’t expect any less from their performance, but I don’t know if it was just me or the audio/Billie’s mic was too quiet. He seemed to struggle through American Idiot and Father of All..., and their sound went back to normal during the rest of the performance. But because of this, I felt like Billie sang Father of All... again at the end to redo it essentially, sound fixed and all; and his voice was just exhausted. This isn’t against them, I’m certain it’s a technical issue they had. Anyone else feel the same? No, I think playing it at the end was totally planned. They had the backdrop back up and everything. 23 minutes ago, foxboro said: Yeah, he’s definitely got more of that rock n roll feel to him. Plus i’ve always felt that (at least on social media) they Jeff is kinda obnoxious. I’ve seen him be really disrespectful to fans for no reason. I’m not on the anti-Jeff bandwagon. I think he’s got some mental health issues but I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I think he’s impulsive and needy but he also is very aware that he made a bad choice with the girlfriend thing. I also think he has some social anxiety and gets quickly exhausted by fan attention, hence coming off as rude. I have sympathy for people who are in a position that their mental health can’t handle. Having said that, I like Kevin better in this role. He just fits. But I have sympathy for Jeff if he’s out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 This will probably be buried by heated discussion lol, but performances like these make me proud of where the guys stand after more than 25 years in that line-up. It's great to see that they're still together, still goofing around, still having fun, still sounding good, still being sexy (and dorky), but most of all: still rocking until the roof blows off and though I take it all of this for granted sometimes, that really is something to consciously value and treasure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: No, I think playing it at the end was totally planned. They had the backdrop back up and everything. I’m not on the anti-Jeff bandwagon. I think he’s got some mental health issues but I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I think he’s impulsive and needy but he also is very aware that he made a bad choice with the girlfriend thing. I also think he has some social anxiety and gets quickly exhausted by fan attention, hence coming off as rude. I have sympathy for people who are in a position that their mental health can’t handle. Having said that, I like Kevin better in this role. He just fits. But I have sympathy for Jeff if he’s out. If he recognised he made a bad choice and regretted it he should've apologised for it instead of just staying silent. He's in a band that prides itself on being feminist and made an active choice not to apologise for encouraging public harassment of his non famous ex girlfriend by his followers (ie Green Day fans). What he did could possibly be understandable, thinking it's good enough to simply act like it never happened not so much. I don't think he's out of the band though lol. I think Kevin is just filling in pre-tour since he's more local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hermione said: If he recognised he made a bad choice and regretted it he should've apologised for it instead of just staying silent. He's in a band that prides itself on being feminist and made an active choice not to apologise for encouraging public harassment of his non famous ex girlfriend by his followers (ie Green Day fans). What he did could possibly be understandable, thinking it's good enough to simply act like it never happened not so much. I don't think he's out of the band though lol. I think Kevin is just filling in pre-tour since he's more local. He did apologize in response to a comment. Anyway, he’s paid a price I think. I just don’t think people should pile on. The guy obviously has issues. On to talking about the performance, which I can’t stop watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Whole show in HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: He did apologize in response to a comment. He apologised in response to one person's comment (before things really kicked off) and then deleted it. Not good. If you behave in a shitty way and don't do anything to explain yourself or give a proper apology you can't really expect people's opinion of you to improve. That's just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshadows Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 During the second time they did FOAMF, the screens at the back had the visuals for that song, so does that mean IHeart knows they'll do an extra minute or so of that song or are those handled by each artist's team and GD just went over their time limit on purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, blueshadows said: During the second time they did FOAMF, the screens at the back had the visuals for that song, so does that mean IHeart knows they'll do an extra minute or so of that song or are those handled by each artist's team and GD just went over their time limit on purpose? I think the backdrop is almost certainly operated by Green Day's tour crew in co-operation with iHeart. But the fact that an entire ad-break and lengthy introduction to the next artist were both skipped, lead me to believe that while Green Day's team may or not have known about the overrun, iHeart almost certainly didn't. It would also have been very easy to re-add the Songs For Assholes Backdrop on the screen again, even spontaneously. Also, in the time that Green Day were playing over their assigned time-slot and into their set-change / ad-break, iHeart and the other crew just simply had to set up French Montana's set on the other side and then start turning Green Day off as quickly as possible. I'm presuming that, even though iHeart didn't specifically know about Green Day's overrun, they will have put in place provisions and procedures in the case of someone overrunning, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herewegoagain Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said: This will probably buried by heated discussion lol, but performances like these make me proud of where the guys stand after more than 25 years in that line-up. It's great to see that they're still together, still goofing around, still having fun, still sounding good, still being sexy (and dorky), but most of all: still rocking until the roof blows off and though I take it all of this for granted sometimes, that really is something to consciously value and treasure! I agree, it's pretty amazing how they're still going strong or even improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punxie89 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I didn't sleep very well last night, so I'm sorry if I ramble...but I saw some ppl complaining about their setlist from last night. Though I didn't expect them to mostly do hits from AI, it was the 15th anniversary of AI, and with only roughly 20 min and a very mixed crowd in terms of the target audience it made the most sense to play mostly hit songs that everyone would know, and that's one of the albums that had the most. That being said, I loved every second of it and you could tell that Billie Joe was truly happy and fully enjoying himself, which was fucking great to see. There was one moment in particular, where he had the biggest grin on his face and it permeated through the screen. I don't really want to get into the whole Jeff thing, as everyone has already talked about it from their personal points of view and from all angles, I just will say that I was glad to see Kevin onstage playing with the guys again! And the part where Billie started taunting the crowd by saying that they weren't allowed to scream or dance was pretty funny. I also loved Tré's sparkly gold and purple Converse! Wish the camera had truly given those their time to shine. I also saw ppl complaining about the crowd, which seems kind of ignorant seeing as this was not a GD show for fans and everyone there came to see different artists over a wide range of genres and it's not going to be everyone's thing. That being said, every single time they zoomed into a random person in the crowd that person was singing along and/or dancing and/or arm waving, so the crowd overall was having a good time. And a lot of people think that the part at the end about playing FOAMF a 2nd time and being ushered off the stage wasn't planned in advance, and I saw someone say they forced a commercial break to skip and the artist intro?? I'm confused because I assumed that the whole thing was planned as a joke about the 1 minute thing from years ago (Billie even put it in his caption earlier in the day), and the fact that they didn't want to stop playing last time. Maybe it was a joke by the band but the festival didn't know. The guys were laughing and the setup for that song was put back into place in perfect time...either way it was definitely a reference and it was hilarious!!! Best part of the show, possibly. It was also nice to see random ppl in the crowd enjoying FOAMF live. I've grown to love the grooviness of the song, and I liked his vocals for it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshadows Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said: I think the backdrop is almost certainly operated by Green Day's tour crew in co-operation with iHeart. But the fact that an entire ad-break and lengthy introduction to the next artist were both skipped, lead me to believe that while Green Day's team may or not have known about the overrun, iHeart almost certainly didn't. It would also have been very easy to re-add the Songs For Assholes Backdrop on the screen again, even spontaneously. Also, in the time that Green Day were playing over their assigned time-slot and into their set-change / ad-break, iHeart and the other crew just simply had to set up French Montana's set on the other side and then start turning Green Day off as quickly as possible. I'm presuming that, even though iHeart didn't specifically know about Green Day's overrun, they will have put in place provisions and procedures in the case of someone overrunning, for whatever reason. Thanks for the answer, it makes a lot of sense . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, neverdone2000 said: I haven’t seen it yet but that is concerning. Love CTE. Is Matt this year’s 2012 Billie? it’s interesting to me that they have Kevin in such a more visible position than Jeff. I love Cage and Matt is an amazing frontman. I just have no idea what the hell he's doing on stage anymore. It's entertaining but his demeanor makes me think he's blitz out of his mind. Anyway, the performance was still awesome and he seemed to recover well from that fall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Has the interview shown up anywhere yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Is it just me but did they play American Idiot a bit slower than they normally have over the last 15 odd years live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterv Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, EmmaCharlatan&Saints said: Is it just me but did they play American Idiot a bit slower than they normally have over the last 15 odd years live? I thought the same, it mostly made the vocals sound a bit worse I think. They were great throughout the show but in the AI they sounded off, probably because it was played a bit slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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