Magnum Opus Of The Inglorious Kind - confirmed NOT to be Green Day

[That Dude]

1 hour ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said:

Just found this video on Youtube 

 

This is one of the first tracks on the record.  

It starts out with a minimalist sound.  The songs before this are barely there at all.   Then as the album progresses, each song builds layers and structures within the theme.   Around song #5 we start to get an idea of what our protagonist (antagonist?) looks like.   

By Song #7, you're in the trenches with him (or her?) 

By Song #12, the shrear exhaustion will have fried your Green Day fan heart.   Someones got a hold of it like a hand grenade! 

The choirs are joining in on track 13-15 and the the listeners on all on the edge of their seat!   

16 and 17 are the biggest, loudest, most impossible to reproduce creations the world has ever heard!   Pete Townsend is on guitar, Jason white is singing in the choir, Lady Cobra is doing things with her vocal chords  and Billie Joe is weeping over the the whole thing.  

Some live and some die.   

It's the end of an Opus.   But is it the Magnum hearted, or the Inglorious in nature?   

We shall find out on....

MOONTIK II:   The Frightening, Disappearing Boy! 

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

That video is hilariously fake

[GDFan2019]

1 hour ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

That video is hilariously fake

Yeah I listened to it more closely and it’s just a guitar copying the “Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh” line. But now I’m very excited after seeing Butch’s rock opera comment!

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

1 hour ago, GDFan2019 said:

Yeah I listened to it more closely and it’s just a guitar copying the “Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh” line. But now I’m very excited after seeing Butch’s rock opera comment!

I wouldn't doubt that butch is trolling us but regardless that post is the best case for this thread to stay alive

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

7 hours ago, Sheenius said:

He mentioned a new release may happen in one of the early interviews. So he did talk about it but he didn't confirm it. 

Remember this is thread is basically a GD conspiracy theory thread. Be careful with what language you use. As you see in the posts above a lot of stuff is being misconstrued. 

This thread is like forum version of broken telephone.

He never, ever talked about a new album. He talked about new music, which is different. As I said above, the whole point of going independent or changing their contract is to be able to release music without being forced to release an album every time they have a single or EP ready. I strongly doubt they will release a new record soon after FOAMF, but based on what they talked about so far I see as possible the release of singles and EPs in the next few years, maybe even before or during the tour. A new rock opera would hardly fit this pattern tho.

[Thatsername]

34 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

He never, ever talked about a new album. He talked about new music, which is different. As I said above, the whole point of going independent or changing their contract is to be able to release music without being forced to release an album every time they have a single or EP ready. I strongly doubt they will release a new record soon after FOAMF, but based on what they talked about so far I see as possible the release of singles and EPs in the next few years, maybe even before or during the tour. A new rock opera would hardly fit this pattern tho.

He DID say album. Watch this interview, around minute 8. He clearly says album.

 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

2 minutes ago, Thatsername said:

He DID say album. Watch this interview, around minute 8. He clearly says album.

 

Ah my mistake, I forgot this one  

[Thatsername]

1 hour ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Ah my mistake, I forgot this one  

That's why I've been so puzzled about this whole new era from the very start. Why talk about "maybe just putting out another album" in one of your first interviews promoting a new album? Everyone who says the MOOTIK theory doesn't make sense: You're right. But the FOAM thing doesn't make sense either.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

18 minutes ago, Thatsername said:

That's why I've been so puzzled about this whole new era from the very start. Why talk about "maybe just putting out another album" in one of your first interviews promoting a new album? Everyone who says the MOOTIK theory doesn't make sense: You're right. But the FOAM thing doesn't make sense either.

I think this has to be read in the logic of negotiations with Warner, not of discrediting FOAMF. The first interviews were dense of this stuff, of their desire to put out music whenever they want and in whatever format they want, and the possibility to go independent. After one month of this they started to explicitly talk about negotiations with Warner to extend and change their contract, which means the strategy probably worked out, or at least started something. 
I think the interview with Howard Stern is the one where they explain this very clearly, and they also admit they have someone (if I remember correctly they explicitly talk about a lawyer or something like that) building a strategy to negotiate with Warner. 

I understand how this can create confusion and be a tinder for speculations when it happens in parallel with the new album promotion, but on the other hand it is something that only us hardcore fans spending time in this crazy thread notice. It doesn’t really have an impact on the bigger picture of the FOAMF promotion, IMHO.

[That Dude]

2 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

I think this has to be read in the logic of negotiations with Warner, not of discrediting FOAMF. The first interviews were dense of this stuff, of their desire to put out music whenever they want and in whatever format they want, and the possibility to go independent. After one month of this they started to explicitly talk about negotiations with Warner to extend and change their contract, which means the strategy probably worked out, or at least started something. 
I think the interview with Howard Stern is the one where they explain this very clearly, and they also admit they have someone (if I remember correctly they explicitly talk about a lawyer or something like that) building a strategy to negotiate with Warner. 

I understand how this can create confusion and be a tinder for speculations when it happens in parallel with the new album promotion, but on the other hand it is something that only us hardcore fans spending time in this crazy thread notice. It doesn’t really have an impact on the bigger picture of the FOAMF promotion, IMHO.

Right!   After FOAMs life cycle is complete, new singles and/or albums can appear and that's great.    Perhaps Warner hadn't been allowing them the freedom to do certain things, but this strategic play has shown the label that perhaps Green Day CAN be trusted to make their own decisions.   

MOOTIK may be doomed to spend eternity in a Cigarettes and Valentines-type purgatory, but maybe something even better is in the works.    I personally think it's high time we open up the "Anticipation for Album 14 (and more) " thread.   

  

 

[localinsomniac]

I really want whoever wrote "one week" in here last Friday to not be taking the piss

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

One week 

[michael1989]

The "silly-funny-sad-mad" sounds like a description of a GD record.

[Lenny]

6 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

He never, ever talked about a new album. He talked about new music, which is different. As I said above, the whole point of going independent or changing their contract is to be able to release music without being forced to release an album every time they have a single or EP ready. I strongly doubt they will release a new record soon after FOAMF, but based on what they talked about so far I see as possible the release of singles and EPs in the next few years, maybe even before or during the tour. A new rock opera would hardly fit this pattern tho.

As mentioned, he talked about a release. I didn't state and Billie didn't state what kind of release that is.  He used the word "may" to indicate that it's up in the air, most likely due to negotiations.  This will solely depend on what happens with their next contract if there is one. Yes, at the very least it would be an EP but like I said I'm confident they could fire off an album. This is a band that's consistently sat with a backlog of 40 songs at any given time for the last 20 years or so.

You're jumping to the conclusion that they're going independent but as we know right now they're still on the fence. If they were to remain on Warner the next release would most likely be a full length album and yes most likely would not be within the year of FOAMF. However, it's not like such a thing hasn't been done before this is the band who released the trilogy not to mention there is several other rock bands who have released albums very quickly. 

Rush had two albums released in 1975 after releasing their debut in 1974. After the two albums in 75 they jumped right back in and released 2112 in 1976 followed by another album in 77 and another in 78. Not sure if you're familiar but most of those are concept albums and more complex than what a GD rock opera would be. 

Led Zeppelin released their first 2 albums in 1969. However, they didn't write the songs for those albums so for me personally it wouldn't qualify. However Zeppelin 3 and 4 were released 1 year apart and they did write the songs for those. Between 75-76 they also released 2 albums. 

Between 75-76 ACDC released 4 albums and then proceeded to release an album per year for 5 years straight. Finally, GD has already done such a thing. 92-95 saw the release of 3 albums. 

 

 

 

[GDFan2019]

So I just noticed Britt liked Butch’s post about the rock opera!!! Still waiting on the guys to like it....

[Sanity Loan]

3 hours ago, GDFan2019 said:

So I just noticed Britt liked Butch’s post about the rock opera!!! Still waiting on the guys to like it....

😤

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

Well seeing how Matt is still implying that this whole fiasco is probably fake/not green day makes me skeptical of it still

[trambopoline]

11 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

Well seeing how Matt is still implying that this whole fiasco is probably fake/not green day makes me skeptical of it still

Of course Matt would be saying that though. If he knew something and this was really a secret (as it would need to be), he wouldn't be confirming anything and let the cat out of the bag.

[GDFan2019]

22 minutes ago, Herroon said:

Of course Matt would be saying that though. If he knew something and this was really a secret (as it would need to be), he wouldn't be confirming anything and let the cat out of the bag.

And remember when the Billie/Jesse Malin single was coming out? Matt kinda threw us off, making us think it could be a Green Day single, “But it’s a single nonetheless.” And then the Kerrang incident happened

[Doggins]

A loop in thread. Is this stuck?

[Jorgemas]

9 hours ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

Well seeing how Matt is still implying that this whole fiasco is probably fake/not green day makes me skeptical of it still

I watch this site since 2012 and never saw matt be correct. He is just user like you and me 

[realDonaldTrump]

“why would they release their best for the label instead of their first indie record”

truest shit i’ve read in this whole thread. i say we hop back on this conspiracy. 

the panic land shit is a farce, they couldn’t afford that high of production or get a choir of women in their studio. 

green day isn’t in on it with panic land either. them confronting billie and asking to perform a song was prettt pathetic and contrived. could you imagine billie doing that in 1992 to john lydon or Joey ramone? no. billie probably cringed to himself as those chumps did that and probably forgot about it. so the panic land thing is no longer relevant.

side note: 2020 is going to be a huge shift musically, gen z does not like modern music, it’s the equivalent to the plastic & dishonest 80s — girls, sex, partying, money or lazy bedroom mac demarco shit and carbon copies like greta van fleet  — boomers and millennials are equally as cringe for being such consumers for that shit, and i think the youngerish crowd is bored of it. All in all 2020 is going to be a big shift, so i hope green day has one last great album for an era that will be hopefully be very good for all of music. 

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

1 hour ago, Jorgemas said:

I watch this site since 2012 and never saw matt be correct. He is just user like you and me 

I've been on here not the long but he's been right on a few occasions. He knew about the album and that butch walker was producing for one.

[cav9mm]

Has anybody in Green Day either confirmed or denied anything relating to this ?

[WhiteTim]

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