Magnum Opus Of The Inglorious Kind - confirmed NOT to be Green Day

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

4 hours ago, Thatsername said:

Why is everything fake? We don't know that. The conversation we hear was edited in it and the pictures we see are fake too. Okay. But we still have no idea where the music itself is coming from. Until we know, the legend will live.

If the conversation is faked, and the videos are faked, then it really isnt a stretch to say that the music  is probably spliced up as well. Or at the least not Green Day. 

Whoever made this wanted us to believe it was the guys in the studio making new music. Why would Green Day go this far just to leak new material? I doubt any of them would even know how to take conversations and splice them up like that,  I mean BJA seems to have enough trouble with livestreaming Instagram as is lmao. 

[Flashback]

3 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

No it’s the same audio source, the same audio that have been cut and reused for each of the clips. There’s no Billie and Butch talking. 

Just watched the Panicland/GD video again, you‘re right. But it just doesn‘t fit together. The style of the music is 100% not Panicland, their music is too different.

[Eric]

This thread is still alive  

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

1 hour ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

If the conversation is faked, and the videos are faked, then it really isnt a stretch to say that the music  is probably spliced up as well. Or at the least not Green Day. 

Whoever made this wanted us to believe it was the guys in the studio making new music. Why would Green Day go this far just to leak new material? I doubt any of them would even know how to take conversations and splice them up like that,  I mean BJA seems to have enough trouble with livestreaming Instagram as is lmao. 

I doubt professional musicians don't know how to work with sound editing programs. Obviously not to the same level as sound engineers do, but they probably know a thing or two, plus if it was done by gd, it wouldn't be the band guys but some person on their team 

[stefand11]

dr.robertdoback knows.....we must find out who this person is 

[GDFan2019]

12 minutes ago, stefand11 said:

dr.robertdoback knows.....we must find out who this person is 

Dr.robertdoback is a Will Ferrell reference. A week after these leaks, We got the Anchorman Hella Mega Tour teaser!!!! Coincidence? I think not!!!

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

44 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

I doubt professional musicians don't know how to work with sound editing programs. Obviously not to the same level as sound engineers do, but they probably know a thing or two, plus if it was done by gd, it wouldn't be the band guys but some person on their team 

Your right but I still don't see either of the three telling someone on their team to find a irrelevant conversation and splice it into this fabricated video to leak material that'll only eventually reach us.  

8 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

Dr.robertdoback is a Will Ferrell reference. A week after these leaks, We got the Anchorman Hella Mega Tour teaser!!!! Coincidence? I think not!!!

Step Brothers not Anchorman, although Step Brothers is one of BJA's favorite movies, so someone definitely did their homework here.

It's not a stretch to say the fake leaker follows the band closely. Its likely someone on GDC, hell it might even be someone who'd been on this thread....

[Little Boy Named Booze]

6 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

Its likely someone on GDC, hell it might even be someone who'd been on this thread....

YOU GOT ME DAMNNNN

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

We all know GDfan2019 is the real mastermind behind all of this. The puppetmaster

[walking_c0ntradicti0n]

10 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

We all know GDfan2019 is the real mastermind behind all of this. The puppetmaster

Plot twist:
It's Matt.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

30 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

Your right but I still don't see either of the three telling someone on their team to find a irrelevant conversation and splice it into this fabricated video to leak material that'll only eventually reach us.  

Well, yeah, I agree

[GDFan2019]

33 minutes ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

Step Brothers not Anchorman, although Step Brothers is one of BJA's favorite movies, so someone definitely did their homework here.

That’s why I only said it’s a Will Ferrell reference

[walking_c0ntradicti0n]

1 hour ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

Step Brothers not Anchorman, although Step Brothers is one of BJA's favorite movies, so someone definitely did their homework here.

59 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said:

That’s why I only said it’s a Will Ferrell reference

Yeah gdfan checks out he's talking about that deepfake video that has billie pete and rivers' faces in it

[WhiteTim]

7 hours ago, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

If the conversation is faked, and the videos are faked, then it really isnt a stretch to say that the music  is probably spliced up as well. Or at the least not Green Day. 

Whoever made this wanted us to believe it was the guys in the studio making new music. Why would Green Day go this far just to leak new material? I doubt any of them would even know how to take conversations and splice them up like that,  I mean BJA seems to have enough trouble with livestreaming Instagram as is lmao. 

Billie also produces and records his own home demos (as seen in Cuatro) 

sure Billie fumbles with IG and such but he most likely doesn’t have much interest in it other than posting so he probably doesn’t have much desire to learn how to work it where as to do his job and his passion has to learn how to use Pro Tools (or whatever DAW he chooses to use) or a reel to reel etc 

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

9 hours ago, Flashback said:

Just watched the Panicland/GD video again, you‘re right. But it just doesn‘t fit together. The style of the music is 100% not Panicland, their music is too different.

I am not sure and I can’t say for sure that Panicland made those videos, even tho if the purpose is to prank this forum/the community of course the author is gonna make the music sound like Green Day, regardless of what music he/she usually produce. It could also be just someone working with Panicland and who is also a GD fan, it could be my uncle or Micky Mouse.  Whoever made these videos, it has been discussed several times how with a relatively basic studio and some relatively basic skills one can produce a “song” like that, for example rearranging GD vocal tracks that can be found online everywhere, and maybe adding on top of that some original instrumental and “choir” tracks.

On top of this, Bill Schneider himself hinted at the fact that this is all fake on this thread, so I really can’t see how one can still assume this stuff is real. I get it, one can decide to just believe in this, to decide that everything that disprove it is just a ploy to mislead the GD fandom. But at least change the title of this thread to “conspiracy theory”, because there’s no real ground to believe this shit is real at this point, and this point was 3 months ago  

[Flashback]

2 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

I am not sure and I can’t say for sure that Panicland made those videos, even tho if the purpose is to prank this forum/the community of course the author is gonna make the music sound like Green Day, regardless of what music he/she usually produce. It could also be just someone working with Panicland and who is also a GD fan, it could be my uncle or Micky Mouse.  Whoever made these videos, it has been discussed several times how with a relatively basic studio and some relatively basic skills one can produce a “song” like that, for example rearranging GD vocal tracks that can be found online everywhere, and maybe adding on top of that some original instrumental and “choir” tracks.

On top of this, Bill Schneider himself hinted at the fact that this is all fake on this thread, so I really can’t see how one can still assume this stuff is real. I get it, one can decide to just believe in this, to decide that everything that disprove it is just a ploy to mislead the GD fandom. But at least change the title of this thread to “conspiracy theory”, because there’s no real ground to believe this shit is real at this point, and this point was 3 months ago  

If it‘s your uncle, please tell him to finally release this songs! 😄

Well, when I listen to the drums in these songs, they sound so great, even the toms (and these can be fucked up easily in the production, no offense but compare the toms between a Longshot and a Green Day record), so I can‘t imagine that this was an amateur

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

1 hour ago, Flashback said:

If it‘s your uncle, please tell him to finally rease this songs! 😄

Well, wenn I listen to the drums in these songs, they sound so great, even the toms (and these can be fucked up easily in the production, no offense but compair the toms between a Longshot and a Green Day record), so I can‘t imagine that this was an amateur

It’s clearly someone that had access to a studio, so not an amateur. But I don’t think you have to be Rick Rubin either to produce those 30 seconds of something. Between an amateur and Rick Rubin there’s everyone studying or working with music production. Everything we heard is a hyper compressed, extremely low quality small portion of a hypothetical song, indirectly recorded from some sort of speakers, not exactly something that gives us any ground to analyze the actual quality of the product. 

[Flashback]

50 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

It’s clearly someone that had access to a studio, so not an amateur. But I don’t think you have to be Rick Rubin either to produce those 30 seconds of something. Between an amateur and Rick Rubin there’s everyone studying or working with music production. Everything we heard is a hyper compressed, extremely low quality small portion of a hypothetical song, indirectly recorded from some sort of speakers, not exactly something that gives us any ground to analyze the actual quality of the product. 

I think we can. Music that‘s bad produced sounds even worse in low quality, so to me it doesn‘t sound that bad. And to vocal samples: if the choir was a sample from the internet, I think someone of GDC would have found it weeks ago. I mean, someone here even found the GD/Panicland video and analyzed its waveform, and this video is not easy to find when you don‘t know what to look for 😅

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

1 minute ago, Flashback said:

I think we can. Music that‘s bad produced sounds even worse in low quality, so to me it doesn‘t sound that bad. And to vocal samples: if the choir was a sample from the internet, I think someone of GDC would have found it weeks ago. I mean, someone here even found the GD/Panicland video and analyzed its waveform, and this video is not easy to find when you don‘t know what to look for 😅

Yeah that was me  I am not saying the choirs are vocal samples found online, it could be, there’s thousands of them and I hope no one is crazy enough to spend the rest of his life looking for the right one  But it could also be something  recorded in a studio, maybe took from another project recording, maybe recorded ad-hoc to prank us, maybe cloned from another song, who knows. Regarding the “Billie’s” part it could be another GD song’s voice track edited, it could be someone layering its voice to make it sound like Billie’s, it could be Billie’s voice cloned with one of the many voice cloning tools that are available today. We can’t know, and that’s the point. The melody is catchy, the person/s that put this together are probably good in what they do, but from those low quality clips we can’t even understand if this an actual song or just a 30 seconds joke put together by someone that knows how to work with music.
We definitely can’t understand if it’s a well produced song. I am not saying you can’t like it, I felt for it at the time and genuinely thought this was GD. But from a production perspective this could be just a bunch of cool tracks put together by someone that has a bunch of decent tools, a basic understanding of music production, and a good music taste. We don’t have anything to prove the contrary from those clips. 

[Flashback]

1 hour ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said:

Yeah that was me  I am not saying the choirs are vocal samples found online, it could be, there’s thousands of them and I hope no one is crazy enough to spend the rest of his life looking for the right one  But it could also be something  recorded in a studio, maybe took from another project recording, maybe recorded ad-hoc to prank us, maybe cloned from another song, who knows. Regarding the “Billie’s” part it could be another GD song’s voice track edited, it could be someone layering its voice to make it sound like Billie’s, it could be Billie’s voice cloned with one of the many voice cloning tools that are available today. We can’t know, and that’s the point. The melody is catchy, the person/s that put this together are probably good in what they do, but from those low quality clips we can’t even understand if this an actual song or just a 30 seconds joke put together by someone that knows how to work with music.
We definitely can’t understand if it’s a well produced song. I am not saying you can’t like it, I felt for it at the time and genuinely thought this was GD. But from a production perspective this could be just a bunch of cool tracks put together by someone that has a bunch of decent tools, a basic understanding of music production, and a good music taste. We don’t have anything to prove the contrary from those clips. 

Ah okay good to know 😄

And this leads to the question that bothers me the most: what for? I mean the songs in the leaks have a great potential, so why should someone invest his time to produce high potential songs just to mock some fans? This person could invest the same energy in finishing these songs and promoting them under his name and earn some money. So I just can‘t understand why someone wastes his talent for this, if these songs are completely fake and just produced for this reason.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

22 minutes ago, Flashback said:

Ah okay good to know 😄

And this leads to the question that bothers me the most: what for? I mean the songs in the leaks have a great potential, so why should someone invest his time to produce high potential songs just to mock some fans? This person could invest the same energy in finishing these songs and promoting them under his name and earn some money. So I just can‘t understand why someone wastes his talent for this, if these songs are completely fake and just produced for this reason.

This is what bugged me since the beginning and why I couldn’t believe those clips were fake. It’s fucking crazy to do something like that. 
But, on the other hand, can you see Billie or someone from the GD world digging the Panicland Instagram to find that mall video, downloading, editing and merging the audio in a real GD studio recording video, or even better to a “fake” studio recording video belonging to someone else (since we know that’s a Canadian studio not used by GD), then edit it again to include a real Green Day unreleased song... to do what? To make it look fake on our eyes when it’s actually real? That’s even more crazy, and without any concrete evidence pointing in this direction it’s impossible for me to buy this  

[GuitarPunk94]

maybe its just joey or jakob trolling us GD fans ...

😶😂

[Little Boy Named Booze]

I'll repeat what I said earlier.
At 0:51 I hear the lyrics of ''Knowledge'' but without the Weeeeeeeeee.

We get told to decide
 

So that's why I think it's fake. If he put this part of the song I guess everything else is edited.

Maybe I'm not hearing it right too. I'm just saying that's what I hear.

[LaughingClock]

On 11/26/2019 at 1:56 AM, Redundantuserjinxboy said:

@LaughingClock. Just tryna play devils advocate a little. You seem very confident about all this and I wanna try to get inside your head.

1. Why though? I don't see where this rather baseless assumption that bja and crew are just going to give Warner b-sides and release all their better material independent comes from. What would they even gain from that? It's reaching to assume that Green Day would release an album full of B-material just to have an album full "of the best stuff" saved for later.  I bet they just wanted to make a fun, fast, explosive record so fans have something to compliment the tour (a new tour plus no new music would piss a lot of people off I'm sure.) Yeah I agree this isnt their most inspired work but I don't buy into the "it's the worst of the REAL album" theory. And after all the coverup shows, and the longshot album/shows is it really that suprising this is the direction Billie wanted to go?

2. Your that confident they are going to announce an entire new album in less than a year? Assuming they have that album done already too (doubt they'd be finishing it up on tour myself) where do you think it was made? Who do you think produced it? Etc etc... The MOOTIK leaks are likely fake due to the studio in the clips being all the way in Canada for one.  Do you think they had Walker produce it for them in RR studios along with FOAM? I personally hope not.

I am a hypocrite in that I write never ending posts but also hate them.

lol/m. Sorry don’t mean to be rude.

Reason is for my theories which have usually been pretty dead on, is because I know a few things both real and guessed (educated). 
 

Ive had a few other good calls for the 11 or so years I’ve been in and out of here.

 

Logic dictates alone (although not into using logic) that they release a 26 minute album, that Billie has taken half of his promo options and make a point that they will be leaving WB and plug that they are going indie.

During the RevRad tour, Billie famously wrote a ton of songs. I am 100% sure that a minimum of one song intended for GD went to LS.

Also, I had predicted, as some will vouch for that this very thing would happen before the release of RevRad and so far...

If you were gonna release a new album on your own indie and you had one single album with the label he never stops talking shit about, where do you think the “A” material is going?

The first single is supposed to be the strongest song on the album. Do you think it’s their best?

I don’t have any idea who will produce it but I bet they start playing songs from it and release an EP like he did for LS over the season (tour) then after it, studio for full album probably produced by GD but that’s a pure guess.

How do I know? I don’t. I am predicting and I have about a 90% record. (No pun intended).

Either way, some GD B sides are my favorite songs of their’s. Aforementioned H&H is one of my favorite song from their entire discography.  ABM was a hidden track (before digital, bands would put hidden tracks on cds).

https://diffuser.fm/green-day-hidden-tracks/

So I don’t KNOW anything but I’ve heard some damn good songs that aren’t on this album but maybe Billie and i differ.

My latest calls were new song as soon as they get back but I wasn’t sure what they were putting out but it was something immediately after RevRad tour and sure enough USA and Gawds Favorite.

 

Not to mention I’m on the record as saying this and it was pretty obvious first at the KROQ interview and subsequent ones.

Its possible and even likely Billie doesn’t know every bit of his contract but in addition to what I  think will be a fabulous album, Billie wouldn’t release shit regardless, if contract permits, look for a mid-tour release of a 3 song EP followed quickly by a new album and second leg of tour with new album. Of course this is if he’s legally able to until a certain time frame.

Not offended by your skepticism or even just questioning. Nobody can be sure and you don’t know if I’m just blabbing and I might be. Shall see I suppose.

What I can guarantee as they are not getting younger or more free is expect a LONG Green Day presence in our lives not ever seen before. He can’t stop playing. For Billie, he’s not had as much fun touring since the first two legs of the 2004 season.

Worry not, good stuff to come no matter what.
 

Also, I was more confident in my own knowledge then when they were with Pat because John (Scott, Casey and friends), I don’t have the relationship I had with Pat and Maria but while skeptical at first am happy with Crush right now. I did not guess correctly that they would have trouble selling out stadiums even with FOB and Weezer but it’s a mini festival I suppose and the artists become exponential. The Hella tour is selling surprisingly well.

On 11/25/2019 at 3:06 PM, GDFan2019 said:

And Warner treated the Trilogy like one project instead of 3 separate albums

Correct. I don’t think they thought they could pull that one off.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

13 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

I am a hypocrite in that I write never ending posts but also hate them.

lol/m. Sorry don’t mean to be rude.

Reason is for my theories which have usually been pretty dead on, is because I know a few things both real and guessed (educated). 

...

This is very interesting, but did you hear the song in those clips or something else? Because after those interviews I also gave for granted the fact that they have more material up on their sleeves, but the question here (in this thread I mean) is whether those clips are real GD material and part of this “conspiracy” to troll fans, or just a very well realized prank from someone else.
I don’t think anyone doubt that they have more material on the pipeline. Whether it is better or worse than what they are releasing with FOAMF I can’t know and is probably much up to personal taste. Probably some people would consider anything that is more towards classic punk rock or “epic” punk rock better than what we heard so far with FOAMF. I would not, but that’s another story.