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1 minute ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said:

So you don't take condescending shit and jokes. 

Guess the joke went over my head sorry 

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Got lost in the topic

What's the matter with Taylor Swift? she's a good performer, not bad as a singer and she has catchy songs 

Green day are a total different matter, type of music, everything. 

Btw Still breathing is maybe the best song out of RevRad in terms of singing technique, emotions and lyrics. Who cares if maybe he co written, sometimes is good to join other artists to make a good song

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Hear me out; RevRad was the new American Idiot (whether you want to admit it or not). It was such a strong album that everyone either got used to its sound or expected the same thing. Let's not forget that RevRad followed the trilogy (which wasn't as well-received since it wasn't very cohesive). Now, when Bang Bang came out, everyone was taken aback; the first thing I know I felt was a jolt of surprise, which is the same feeling I got with FOAMF. 

Everyone is anxious about this new album because you can't determine whether it will top RevRad or not from just one single, as they sound so different. I think that's the root of all criticisms for this song. It's a fairly radical change in their sound, and we're wired to fear the unknown and the uncertain. We're not sure if we like it until we end up loving it, which was basically the same thing that happened with RevRad, only with the majority of the fanbase expecting it to be "as big a flop" as the trilogy, therefore the uncertainty to whether or not they liked Bang Bang stemmed that way. 

Meme all you want about Billie squeezing his balls, but to be honest, after all the harsh criticism and the dark personal times he went through in the trilogy era, to go back and find value in that sound; to sort of, in a way, redeem himself, or rather give showing his fans why he made that creative decision in the first place another go, takes a tremendous amount of balls. I really hate fans who just sit there, arms crossed over their chests with a noose of nostalgia around their necks saying things like "the old Green Day was better", or whatever. Let's not forget that American Idiot came from taking the creative risk of shifting their sound from their previous albums. I don't think you'd have appreciated it if Green Day didn't bring anything new to the table. They're making us wait so long between albums, but at least there's something special and unique about every single one of them. That attention to detail is huge, especially for a band who has gotten to the point in its career that they have reached. 

Of course, everyone is allowed to have an overall opinion about the outcome of the sound. That's fine. But I personally believe it's justified in the creative process and direction this album is going in. Billie has clearly taken his time in The Longshot to experiment with music in a different angle, and it's showing here; like in all arts, exploring a different medium enhances the one you specialize in. I firmly believe it will be the RevRad of 2020.

I only have two concerns about this album/HellaMega Tour: the first and foremost being Billie's voice. He's got an incredible range and I respect him so much for showing us what he can do, because not many people pay attention to his side projects, and it's a great way for him to bring his complex vocal work into the light, however in the live recording at Whiskey-A-Go, he sounded like he struggled with the pitch he chose for it. I hope he'll make the conscious decision not to force his voice and lower the octaves in the song if it causes trouble down the road, especially if more songs in the new album will have a higher pitch. Him getting nodes would be the end of the world, because like with all iconic rock bands like Queen, you can't replace the lead singer. You just can't. My second concern regards the whole mashup of the bands; I've waited some good years for Green Day to tour again so I can see them live, so I want a full-on Green Day show, not a dangerously short setlist lasting about 30 minutes and then listening to (no offense but the support acts of HellaMega) FoB and Weezer. But for that, like with the rest of the album, I'll have to wait and see. I trust Billie and this risk he's taking. So, leave all the anxiety for the album to reflect itself ;p 

 

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1 minute ago, Beerjeezus said:

Billie has no shame :P

Ahhhh got it, sorry ahah

U were hinting about ripping it off, well yes there is some similarity in the chords and rythm but thousand songs sound like this, it's a standard, it's rock 

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1 minute ago, dannygreen said:

Ahhhh got it, sorry ahah

U were hinting about ripping it off, well yes there is some similarity in the chords and rythm but thousand songs sound like this, it's a standard, it's rock 

Yeah, not saying it's a negative thing that it sounds alike. I find it interesting to compare.

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1 minute ago, Beerjeezus said:

Yeah, not saying it's a negative thing that it sounds alike. I find it interesting to compare.

Must admit I'm more annoyed he recycled Fuck Time ahah

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2 minutes ago, dannygreen said:

Must admit I'm more annoyed he recycled Fuck Time ahah

It's pretty cool in fact. He recycled Fuck Time, Stop Drop & Roll and threw in some Fire for the intro. He got creative with this :P

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23 minutes ago, One_of_the_Whatsernames said:

Hear me out; RevRad was the new American Idiot (whether you want to admit it or not). It was such a strong album that everyone either got used to its sound or expected the same thing. Let's not forget that RevRad followed the trilogy (which wasn't as well-received since it wasn't very cohesive). Now, when Bang Bang came out, everyone was taken aback; the first thing I know I felt was a jolt of surprise, which is the same feeling I got with FOAMF. 

Everyone is anxious about this new album because you can't determine whether it will top RevRad or not from just one single, as they sound so different. I think that's the root of all criticisms for this song. It's a fairly radical change in their sound, and we're wired to fear the unknown and the uncertain. We're not sure if we like it until we end up loving it, which was basically the same thing that happened with RevRad, only with the majority of the fanbase expecting it to be "as big a flop" as the trilogy, therefore the uncertainty to whether or not they liked Bang Bang stemmed that way. 

Meme all you want about Billie squeezing his balls, but to be honest, after all the harsh criticism and the dark personal times he went through in the trilogy era, to go back and find value in that sound; to sort of, in a way, redeem himself, or rather give showing his fans why he made that creative decision in the first place another go, takes a tremendous amount of balls. I really hate fans who just sit there, arms crossed over their chests with a noose of nostalgia around their necks saying things like "the old Green Day was better", or whatever. Let's not forget that American Idiot came from taking the creative risk of shifting their sound from their previous albums. I don't think you'd have appreciated it if Green Day didn't bring anything new to the table. They're making us wait so long between albums, but at least there's something special and unique about every single one of them. That attention to detail is huge, especially for a band who has gotten to the point in its career that they have reached. 

Of course, everyone is allowed to have an overall opinion about the outcome of the sound. That's fine. But I personally believe it's justified in the creative process and direction this album is going in. Billie has clearly taken his time in The Longshot to experiment with music in a different angle, and it's showing here; like in all arts, exploring a different medium enhances the one you specialize in. I firmly believe it will be the RevRad of 2020.

I only have two concerns about this album/HellaMega Tour: the first and foremost being Billie's voice. He's got an incredible range and I respect him so much for showing us what he can do, because not many people pay attention to his side projects, and it's a great way for him to bring his complex vocal work into the light, however in the live recording at Whiskey-A-Go, he sounded like he struggled with the pitch he chose for it. I hope he'll make the conscious decision not to force his voice and lower the octaves in the song if it causes trouble down the road, especially if more songs in the new album will have a higher pitch. Him getting nodes would be the end of the world, because like with all iconic rock bands like Queen, you can't replace the lead singer. You just can't. My second concern regards the whole mashup of the bands; I've waited some good years for Green Day to tour again so I can see them live, so I want a full-on Green Day show, not a dangerously short setlist lasting about 30 minutes and then listening to (no offense but the support acts of HellaMega) FoB and Weezer. But for that, like with the rest of the album, I'll have to wait and see. I trust Billie and this risk he's taking. So, leave all the anxiety for the album to reflect itself 😜

 

Welcome there!

I like your post overall, especially what I put in bold. I'm happy too that Billie doesn't bury what he had first put in the trilogy and wants to embrace it again in some way, despite everything the trilogy era might have been melded in. Maybe I'm used to seeing him as having "balls" but you're right, we should pause and be admiring a bit of that. Not sure about what you mean when saying Rev Rad was their new AI (like, are you saying it's what they intended it for?) but to me it's definitely my fave album and I feel that it wasn't played as "safe" and smooth as I often read it was. I was certainly a demanding album for them.

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It's just that one lyric that is similar but does this song remind anyone of Chasing a Ghost?  

I am listening now...

I got the tears oh baby crying in my soul! 

I got paranoia baby and it's hysterical

The songs kind of start the same but WOW the new song makes Chasing a Ghost sound so incredibly poppy.  Love them both.

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2 hours ago, uptightt said:

Butch Vig > Butch Walker

I watched a cool video with Butch Walker in it and he does really know about recording and has really cool quality gear but Butch Vig is a mastermind. 

I was part of a recording forum and Butch Vig was a member and he had pages about all the types of tricks he used on 21cb. I remember reading that for days.

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I had/have a feeling this song will be a lot now of fun live because it is a bop and the Whisky show proved that for me. Hopefully it keeps being great live. 

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Father of All Motherfuckers was just played during a highlights segment coming back from halftime at Thursday Night Football.

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19 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Father of All Motherfuckers was just played during a highlights segment coming back from halftime at Thursday Night Football.

It doesn't surprise me. I was thinking how perfect this song is to mash-up to sports highlights.

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13 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Father of All Motherfuckers was just played during a highlights segment coming back from halftime at Thursday Night Football.

Yup- it’s going to be on a lot of sports segments this fall and winter- kind of like KYE was. Except this one is bouncier and will probably have more play as a result. 

Funny how one of their more experimental songs (and definitely most as a lead single) will be the intro/outro rock song for awhile  

Good for them, they didn’t have to stick their necks out like this- but they took a risk and showed guts while doing it. They don’t want to stagnate, they want to keep growing, and this is why we’re lucky enough to be having this conversation today. We’re damn lucky as fans, not many other fanbases can say the same  

 

 

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Just now, MillenniumFan said:

The worst thing for me would be if FOAM starts being used for all kind of ads...

Agreed, but don’t worry. They’ve been offered many times in the past and refused. I think they must have a contractual say in those things, despite whatever happened with Warner, and BJ did say in the past that the last thing he’d want is a GD song on a car commercial. 

Tv spots, yes. Ads, don’t worry about it, not happening.

 

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1 hour ago, laurelw said:

Here's Father of All Motherfuckers live played twice in a row at the Whiskey a Go-Go:

 

 

It sounds surprinsgly good live tbh. i still don't like the song tho

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