That Dude Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Not sure where this will rank for me yet. So many albums now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alan86 said: I think the only part of this album that can be considered to be trolling is the length of it. It’s a message to Warner, they gave them the bare minimum to fulfill a contract. The actual songs they deliver in that 26mins though are really good. Well, technically that's the only 'troll' aspect the theory is about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: “I'm like a soldier coming home for the first time / I dodged a bullet and I walked across a landmine” “I'm not a soldier, this ain't no new world order/ My path don't follow / My name is nobody, my pride is my pornography” I fucking love this man. That's my favorite verse in the entire album. I think the overall theme of cynical dejection of Junkies in a High reminds me a lot of Insomniac, but they have such a different lyrical approach that it's interesting to analyze how much Billie's songwriting has evolved the last years (yeah, it's over-analyzing time!) While in Insomniac, the subject of pride ("You better swallow your pride or you're gonna choke on it") and hypocrisy ("Do as I say, not as I do, because the shit's so deep you can't run away") are written in a very lyrical and straight-forward way, in FOAM, they're covered in a much more abstract way (like the simile of pride being represented as something shameful in character as pornography or the line of kool-aid as a motto as him selling a public persona or an idea of himself that doesn't reflect the reality or his self-perception, which is something he also represented in the character of Gloria in 21CB, especially ¿Viva la Gloria?) I don't know, this consistency of topics should be redundant by this point after all these years, but I love how he's able to spice things up by changing his lyrical approach. While it might read as random rambling sometimes, I find it this new songwriting style much more fulfilling in the long-term as a listening experience. Spoiler If someone is wondering, yes I can make an essay out of anything, but I do charge for specific topics, so if someone wants help with their homework, DM me for pricing details, I'm trying to see if I can make a living out of being fake-deep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefand11 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Graffitia has the potential to be one of those 6min epics, love these songs with a story 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, stefand11 said: Graffitia has the potential to be one of those 6min epics, love these songs with a story It feels like it could be a huge fan favorite and live anthem. Sounds like a 21CB track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyza Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, stefand11 said: Graffitia has the potential to be one of those 6min epics, love these songs with a story Do you guys know what does graffitia mean or refers to what in the song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannygreen Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Beyza said: Do you guys know what does graffitia mean or refers to what in the song? I think it could be a name for the city, now in disgrace and covered by graffitis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, DookieLukie said: I'm thoroughly impressed. I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but I love the direction they went in. What I like about these songs is that you don't necessarily know where they are going. With the trilogy and RevRad, after you got the verse and chorus for most of the songs, nothing really surprised you. This album seems well thought out and songs take off in different directions. I can't wait to hear the HQ files because it seems the vocals are hidden a bit in the vinyl rip when you compare the singles we already received to their copies on this rip. All the songs sound unique and it is truly energetic music that evokes emotions. Sugar Youth is so ear-wormy and Graffitia is very powerful. More comments to come. I mentioned here a few weeks ago that I liked the album only being 26 mins. No point of offering 37 songs when your inspiration is only calling for 10. Take what you got and package it as best as possible and that's what was done here. The good songs are perfect length just enough before it becomes exhausting but just cut off to leave you wanting more. Great vocal phrasing so then you get hooked. Those who can't be satisfied with 1 genre will get the most out of this. They put the best phrasings into single songs rather than riding out 20 songs where they have parts that don't quite match the quality of the chorus in the same song or don't match a good verse etc Dirty Rotten Bastards is a perfect example at what they did well to avoid this time. Great song but loses it's chance to be epic by over using the yeahhh yeahh yeahhh yeahhh over and over and over. Use two lines as an intro and move on. Use another two lines to signal we're moving to the next part. It's not catchy when it's dragged out for the sake of length. 3 hours ago, DookieLukie said: It feels like it could be a huge fan favorite and live anthem. Sounds like a 21CB track. Sounds like it's the lost track on London Calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 If Green Day had stay with the rock opera/21stCB sound up until now, they would be like Muse. Spoiler this is not an insult, i fucking love muse lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 After a few listens, Junkies in a high is the absolute best of this record. That mix of X-ray hamburger/Hammer of the gods/Dark side of night is amazing 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: Well, technically that's the only 'troll' aspect the theory is about. There's A LOT more to it than just the length, as good or bad the album is for some people, even without MOOTIK there is still plenty of evidence to suggest there's more than meets the eye and don't even get me started on the goddamn album cover and the way the band has been acting in interviews and social media again. There is definitely more to what's currently going on than what we think. Hopefully it will all come out in the next couple of weeks. 7 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: If Green Day had stay with the rock opera/21stCB sound up until now, they would be like Muse. Reveal hidden contents this is not an insult, i fucking love muse lol. Now that would be cool, look how popular and successful Muse still are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkyyy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, RisingRedWolf said: There's A LOT more to it than just the length, as good or bad the album is for some people, even without MOOTIK there is still plenty of evidence to suggest there's more than meets the eye and don't even get me started on the goddamn album cover and the way the band has been acting in interviews and social media again. There is definitely more to what's currently going on than what we think. Hopefully it will all come out in the next couple of weeks. Yes. If I am not mistaken, you need 25 minutes for it to be considered an album. This is 26, in no way is this ever a coincidence Also if this is not true I just made myself sound really stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TJChrobo Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 All speculation. My thought with FOAM is this: Major record executives want a commercial product, it’s about money. It wouldn’t be surprising if Green Day has been told or gotten notes on albums since American Idiot saying some version of “give us another American Idiot.” But you don’t “make” and American Idiot, an American Idiot just happens. The album artwork seems like it could be the band saying “You want another American Idiot? Here it fucking is.” I’m not insinuating that they had a bad relationship with Warner, but Billie did seem excited as the prospect of being away from them to release independent songs/EPs when we spoke. I’m also not saying the songs are bad or anything either, I think Green Day respects themselves more than that to intentionally put out bad songs. If there is a trolling aspect, I think it would be towards Warner. The music is poppy and commercial. I wouldn’t be surprised if in fulfilling the contract that wanted to say “Here Warner, this is the pop Green Day album you have wanted.” The album art, music, and album length I think could hint at that. The only way to really know is to see what they come out with next. That being said. I’m excited for this album cycle and I’m excited for the future. I think this is the end of their second act and we are about to go into the third era of Green Day. A lifetime trilogy of Lookout!, Warner, [New Independent Label]. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, RisingRedWolf said: There's A LOT more to it than just the length, as good or bad the album is for some people, even without MOOTIK there is still plenty of evidence to suggest there's more than meets the eye and don't even get me started on the goddamn album cover and the way the band has been acting in interviews and social media again. There is definitely more to what's currently going on than what we think. Hopefully it will all come out in the next couple of weeks. Dude, I'm with you, I'm a believer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Stefano Bras said: Dude, I'm with you, I'm a believer. With not a trace of doubt in my mind? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, RisingRedWolf said: With not a trace of doubt in my mind? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Denice said: The only ones getting trolled are the people who thought this was a troll album in the first place Just wait till it all comes out, then it will troll back XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 The record flow works greatly in its 26 minutes. I don’t understand why someone keeps thinking this is a “message to Warner”. I listened to 3 new records last week, they were all under or a little on top of 30 minutes, with 9 to 11 songs. Why it is so hard to imagine the band wanting to put out a fast, smooth record, even when we can hear that it actually works well (not saying that you can’t not like, I am more thinking about the people liking this but still thinking that the length is a “troll” element”). They also already confirmed they are gonna release 7 more songs as either singles or EPs, maybe with Warner maybe with someone else. They just didn’t want them on this record, and I don’t see why the reason for this should not be artistic. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clockwise Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 This album is fantastic. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: The record flow works greatly in its 26 minutes. I don’t understand why someone keeps thinking this is a “message to Warner”. I listened to 3 new records last week, they were all under or a little on top of 30 minutes, with 9 to 11 songs. Why is it so hard to imagine the band wanting to put out a fast, smooth record, even when we can hear that it actually works well (not saying that you can’t not like, I am more thinking about the people liking this but still thinking that the length is a “troll” element”). They also already confirmed they are gonna release 7 more songs as either singles or EPs, maybe with Warner maybe with someone else. They just didn’t want them on this record, and I don’t see why the reason for this should not be artistic. When in doubt, look at the cover art. In seriousness I never doubted the music would be good, I know Green Day wouldn't put out a deliberately shit album, but c'mon this is still 100% a troll album in everything but the actual content of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, RisingRedWolf said: When in doubt, look at the cover art. In seriousness I never doubted the music wouldn't be good, I know Green Day wouldn't put out a deliberately shit album, but c'mon this is still 100% a troll album in everything but the actual content of it. Well, they explained the meaning of the cover art. Not saying you can’t dislike it, but it’s a way of “making fun of themselves and their legacy”, which makes sense and fits the record IMHO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Well, they explained the meaning of the cover art. Not saying you can’t dislike it, but it’s a way of “making fun of themselves and their legacy”, which makes sense and fits the record IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmycon Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Punkyyy said: Yes. If I am not mistaken, you need 25 minutes for it to be considered an album. This is 26, in no way is this ever a coincidence Also if this is not true I just made myself sound really stupid The criteria for an EP is a length of no more than 25 minutes and no more than 4 tracks. So essentially, as soon as you have more than 4 songs, the length no longer matters. Case in point is the Misfits' album Earth A.D., it's less than 15 minutes long but has 9 tracks, so it's actually considered an album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, RisingRedWolf said: Edited February 3, 2020 by AlissaGoesRAWR Please remove images from quotes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just when I was starting to relax and enjoy the absence of claims that FOAM is aN ePiC tRoLl XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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