Grinch Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, TJChrobo said: Okay, regarding the mono situation. Yes of course it will sound different/better in a stereoscopic space. However, sound engineers and mastering technicians also EQ and balance the album in mono. They switch back and fourth so that it will still sound good/recognizable in mono. This is done for multiple reasons, volume control, to ensure that no sounds are in the same sonic space, and (most importantly for commercial music) that it will sound good in mono for public listening. To this last point, when you hear music in the grocery store, Barns and Noble, Home Depot, department stores, etc. it is in mono and audio engineers know this and still want it to sound good. This is true for mixdown mono, not really for single channel mono (which we currently have still). We're getting the left channel only so as I've said a few times, and Matt just said, everything exclusive to the left channel is 100% volume, anything in the center is only 50% volume, and everything panned on the right side is 0% volume. You are right when it comes to mix down mono though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The lyrics are amazing! I love how Billie went from feeling like a cello to a tooth ache. One of my favorite lyrics in the whole bunch is "taking drowning lessons". That line is confusing, haunting and I've mentally kind of figured out what it means to me, but I can't find the words to explain. Maybe I will be able to put words to it eventually. What do you guys think he means? Is "Meet Me on the Roof" a happy song or a sad song? Both? Neither? He's partying and hanging out, but feeling bad. Love it! On "Teenage Teenager Teenaging" he is living like a prisoner for haters. I don't get that one at all. While most of "Stab" is straight forward violence, what about "Rusty Tamborine, Gimme Steletto". Not following at all, Billie Joe. Sugar Youth, like the title track doesn't have the name in the lyrics. What does it mean to be a child of a bandito and a coyote? Billie is wily, I'll give him that! "Junkies" has some interesting lyrics: Any takes on "subdivision smile". I think that's a fake smile. "My pride is my pornograhpy, kool-aid is my motto". Wha? "Money and Crawl" is straght forward, except I would have rhymed "dick" with "sick" instead of NOT rhyming "suck my *&^" But hey, you don't have to rhyme to make killer tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, That Dude said: My pride is my pornograhpy, It means he can only be proud when his sons and wife are out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jon Benjamin said: Trilogy everyone pretty much got their box sets early Speak for yourself lol I got the Uno book 4 days after release Dos 2 days late Tre a day late and Cuatro day of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: Speak for yourself lol I got the Uno book 4 days after release Dos 2 days late Tre a day late and Cuatro day of Incremental improvement! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beatlesdude Posted February 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2020 I listened. And was really skeptical. But I am in absolute love. Caught Sgt Pepper Vibes the whole time. And since at least one of the band members will (hopefully) be peeking at the forums, just wanna say thank you. I just got picked up by a manager and am moving to Nashville next month to work as a songwriter and none of it would have started without y’all. This record is an inspiration and a statement 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Sheenius said: no strings attached off topic but I remember when I thought No Strings Attached was a great album and NSYNC was what Green Day is for me now 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted February 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, That Dude said: The lyrics are amazing! I love how Billie went from feeling like a cello to a tooth ache. One of my favorite lyrics in the whole bunch is "taking drowning lessons". That line is confusing, haunting and I've mentally kind of figured out what it means to me, but I can't find the words to explain. Maybe I will be able to put words to it eventually. What do you guys think he means? Is "Meet Me on the Roof" a happy song or a sad song? Both? Neither? He's partying and hanging out, but feeling bad. Love it! On "Teenage Teenager Teenaging" he is living like a prisoner for haters. I don't get that one at all. Sugar Youth, like the title track doesn't have the name in the lyrics. What does it mean to be a child of a bandito and a coyote? Billie is wily, I'll give him that! "Junkies" has some interesting lyrics: Any takes on "subdivision smile". I think that's a fake smile. "My pride is my pornograhpy, kool-aid is my motto". Wha? "Money and Crawl" is straght forward, except I would have rhymed "dick" with "sick" instead of NOT rhyming "suck my *&^" But hey, you don't have to rhyme to make killer tunes. A cello he’s said before was a sad feeling and here a toothache goes with the rest of the line his face is going numb (like when you have novocaine for a toothache). Pretty sure that’s a cocaine reference because snorting cocaine makes your face numb. Taking drowning lessons is a great line. He’s drowning in drugs and alcohol. Basically a party where everyone is getting shitfaced and he’s drowning in it. Living like a prisoner for haters — you know like when you’re a teen you feel like you lack autonomy — like a prisoner you’re stuck in your town, your house, your school and everybody hates you. Child of a bandito and a coyote may have references that we don’t know about but to me it gives the image of being a wild, feral outlaw of a kid (like in Outlaws) Kool-Aid is my motto is half the line. In the song he says “Kool-Aid is my motto Oh Yeah” Oh Yeah being the Kool Aid ad motto and in general that verse references how he doesn’t really stand for anything and shouldn’t be followed and worshipped. “Nobody is my name” “My path, don’t follow” And lastly, cock rhymes with walk in the song. 🙂 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, That Dude said: "My pride is my pornograhpy, kool-aid is my motto". Wha? "Oh yeah!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Kool-Aid is my motto is half the line. In the song he says “Kool-Aid is my motto Oh Yeah” Oh Yeah being the Kool Aid ad motto and in general that verse references how he doesn’t really stand for anything and shouldn’t be followed and worshipped. “Nobody is my name” “My path, don’t follow” Also worth mentioning that the phrase "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is an expression that refers to this incident where a cult leader lead a bunch of his followers to drink poision I think. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that's where it comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: Also worth mentioning that the phrase "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is an expression that refers to this incident where a cult leader lead a bunch of his followers to drink poision I think. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that's where it comes from. Yes that’s true. I love when his lyrics have layers of meaning ❤️ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think that "My pride is my pornography" is a touch about the self-depreciation that BJ said in the recent interviews. In other words, the pride is such an important matter for the speaker because is a source of pleasure, but at the same time, doing stuff to keep it good is degradation in flesh. The record is full of good lines, but this one is my favorite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, pacejunkie punk said: Yes that’s true. I love when his lyrics have layers of meaning ❤️ Oh, same 🤩 "What are the symptoms of our happiness and Civil War" may sound like nonsense to some, but gosh that line is deep to me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, WhiteTim said: Speak for yourself lol I got the Uno book 4 days after release Dos 2 days late Tre a day late and Cuatro day of Woah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: Also worth mentioning that the phrase "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is an expression that refers to this incident where a cult leader lead a bunch of his followers to drink poision I think. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that's where it comes from. Yup, Jim Jones/Jonestown (although technically it was flavoraid that they used). Also, 412 of the Jonestown victims are buried in Evergreen cemetery in Oakland and the Jonestown memorial is there. I went there on one of my Oakland trips (I'm a bit of a Jonestown junkie). 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTightAllNight92 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Did anyone else have to use song lyrics to understand what Billie was singing? Once I had them I thought, how could I not understand that? But still without them I needed them again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Montclare said: Yup, Jim Jones/Jonestown (although technically it was flavoraid that they used). Also, 412 of the Jonestown victims are buried in Evergreen cemetery in Oakland and the Jonestown memorial is there. I went there on one of my Oakland trips (I'm a bit of a Jonestown junkie). After reading this, I googled it and read a little more. Kind of wish I hadn't, as it was pretty cracked, but it's always neat to have context for the lines I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I prefer this rip of FRA. I like how he sings the chorus (like the live version) better than the actual track. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: I prefer this rip of FRA. I like how he sings the chorus (like the live version) better than the actual track. So I'm not the only one who noticed it's different. In the live version, instead of the actual track's "Ready! Aim! Fire! Fire ready ai-i-i-i-i-m" it seemed to become more like "Ready ai-im fi-re, fire ready ai-i-im" with emphasis on the "ready" instead of all three words. ...if what I said there made any sense at all 🤦♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocasalada Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: So I'm not the only one who noticed it's different. In the live version, instead of the actual track's "Ready! Aim! Fire! Fire ready ai-i-i-i-i-m" it seemed to become more like "Ready ai-im fi-re, fire ready ai-i-im" with emphasis on the "ready" instead of all three words. ...if that made any sense at all 🤦♀️ Yep, Foam is different too.I think this proves that the singles were released too soon for the Hella Mega tour promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, 21st_century_gloria said: off topic but I remember when I thought No Strings Attached was a great album and NSYNC was what Green Day is for me now 🤣 my childhood love was Prozzak. Rob Cavallo actually tried to bring them to the US but it didn't work out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: So I'm not the only one who noticed it's different. In the live version, instead of the actual track's "Ready! Aim! Fire! Fire ready ai-i-i-i-i-m" it seemed to become more like "Ready ai-im fi-re, fire ready ai-i-im" with emphasis on the "ready" instead of all three words. ...if that made any sense at all 🤦♀️ 10 minutes ago, bocasalada said: Yep, Foam is different too.I think this proves that the singles were released too soon for the Hella Mega tour promotion. In the case of FRA, the NHL All Star Performance was outside! I looked up the weather and it was very cold that night, like 25 degrees! I certainly wouldn’t be able to give it my all in freezing temperatures like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: In the case of FRA, the NHL All Star Performance was outside! I looked up the weather and it was very cold that night, like 25 degrees! I certainly wouldn’t be able to give it my all in freezing temperatures like that! ironically I am watching that video right now, I was in the middle of American Idiot when I got this notification lmao I think I need to clarfiy that I was actually complimenting the difference in sound, I honestly liked the FRA live vocals better than that of the released track's, hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalitops Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The crackling in the low quality vinyl rip is about to blow out my car speakers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, GDFan2019 said: In the case of FRA, the NHL All Star Performance was outside! I looked up the weather and it was very cold that night, like 25 degrees! I certainly wouldn’t be able to give it my all in freezing temperatures like that! 25 is warm as fuck wtf u talkin about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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