21st_century_gloria Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 hours ago, nohamxx said: Am I the only one to love FOAMF and FRA ? im really confident in the upcoming album and in view of their recents shows at the AMA’s for example, I think they’re now considered like a proven band, currently they can do what music they want and il ok with that Moreover FOAM is incredible live, the song has a particular energy and it’s not a bad song at all imo I like both songs in general but I'm not really on board with the high pitched vocals haha. FOAM is much better live! I guess I initially expected something with a bit more depth which is why I was skeptical at first, but i guess it's not fair of me to expect them to churn out 21CBs at every turn 💁♀️ 14 hours ago, Matt. said: Guys... it was a joke. every joke can have its truth, but now the joke's on you I never knew you were such a funny guy! 1 hour ago, Sheenius said: im expecting mixed reviews that fall more on the negative side tbh.We're gonna get that the album has good energy, different sounds than before and the songs are quick and fast etc followed by a HOWEVER, it falls flat because this and that and doesn't hold up as a better album in their entire discography etc. They'll most likely draw parallels with the trilogy but will highlight that this is a new sound for GD and a focused effort of only 10 tracks which is easier to digest. Honestly I think that it's a very smart move to have an experimental record be rather short for this same reason. 👍 The people who love it will love it, you get that everywhere. And the people who don't love it will eventually begrudgingly shrug and say "at least it's only 26 minutes." 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lenny Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: Honestly I think that it's a very smart move to have an experimental record be rather short for this same reason. 👍 The people who love it will love it, you get that everywhere. And the people who don't love it will eventually begrudgingly shrug and say "at least it's only 26 minutes." I think there's 3 things that make the album and songs duration an advantage: 1. You're less inclined to skip the song or get annoyed by a song when it's over before you've even made a full judgement on it. 2. You're more inclined for repetitive listens because it's so short so you need to expand your sample size to get a real judgement of it. Then if the hook is good now it's got you. 3. Fans have always complained "I went to xyz show and they pushed too much of their new album". If they were to play 4 new songs it would only amount to 8-10 minutes of the set. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sheenius said: 1. You're less inclined to skip the song or get annoyed by a song when it's over before you've even made a full judgement on it. Also, some songs (like FRA) are just too short to skip 7 minutes ago, Sheenius said: 3. Fans have always complained "I went to xyz show and they pushed too much of their new album". If they were to play 4 new songs it would only amount to 8-10 minutes of the set. Fans be like, "I didn't go to band x's show to hear music from band x!" 😂 It's kind of funny, because if they only play old stuff, people would complain that they're living in the past and not doing enough to promote the new album or whatever 💁♀️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, 21st_century_gloria said: Honestly I think that it's a very smart move to have an experimental record be rather short for this same reason. 👍 The people who love it will love it, you get that everywhere. And the people who don't love it will eventually begrudgingly shrug and say "at least it's only 26 minutes." I've asked this before, many times, and have not received a satisfactory answer. Maybe you can explain. What exactly about FOAM is experimental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: It's kind of funny, because if they only play old stuff, people would complain that they're living in the past and not doing enough to promote the new album or whatever 💁♀️ I think GD's had a decent balance when judging it long term. There's times I went to the show and they pushed a lot of new music. There's times I went and they leaned on the back catalog. There was one time where they had an equal balance during a show which is a rare occurrence for them at a single event. The trilogy show I went to was actually heavier with new music than the Rev Rad show I went to. I'm curious to see how many new songs they play. They definitely will not get in the way of them playing any old songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunt Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I say this selfishly because Billie is one of my guitar idols but I can honestly say that my most hated part about this era of Green Day is Billie not playing his guitar on songs. Especially songs from revolution radio that he played guitar on the last tour. It’s like he saw Billie Eilish and thought “yeah that’s what I want to be now.” I’ve never had a problem with him not playing guitar on St Jimmy or even FOA, but I do with bang bang and revolution radio and I hope to god he doesn’t do it with more older songs in the future or even new songs. Give someone three inches and then they take a yard, you know? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Chin for a Day said: I've asked this before, many times, and have not received a satisfactory answer. Maybe you can explain. What exactly about FOAM is experimental? Idk, I don't think I can give you a satisfactory answer either 😅 I mean, I've read stuff about it being an experiment and it makes sense to me, what with the high pitched vocals and the idea that they're aiming for a more retro sound, BJA talking about how he wants to try and sound like Prince, stuff like that. Everything that takes such a drastic new direction has to be in some senses experimental. 🤷♀️ I don't think that was a good enough answer but it's what I think I guess 1 minute ago, Sheenius said: I think GD's had a decent balance when judging it long term. There's times I went to the show and they pushed a lot of new music. There's times I went and they leaned on the back catalog. There was one time where they had an equal balance during a show which is a rare occurrence for them at a single event. The trilogy show I went to was actually heavier with new music than the Rev Rad show I went to. I'm curious to see how many new songs they play. They definitely will not get in the way of them playing any old songs. Lucky, I've never seen them live... maybe this time things will be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lenny Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chin for a Day said: I've asked this before, many times, and have not received a satisfactory answer. Maybe you can explain. What exactly about FOAM is experimental? They're trying something new. It's a new sound. The vocals have been in a higher range than previous GD music, FOAMF specifically uses a drumbeat that Tre has not used on a previous song. While it remains in a smilar high energy, short & sweet GD structure these songs have elements to them that the band has not used before from both composition side and production side. Even FOAMF lyrically is different where Billie mentions money which is something that's not really touched upon in previous GD eras. Even the marketing & promotions element has been experimental. They've made new appearances and have been more collaborative with other popular artists. This is a very different GD era. 10 minutes ago, Cunt said: I say this selfishly because Billie is one of my guitar idols but I can honestly say that my most hated part about this era of Green Day is Billie not playing his guitar on songs. Especially songs from revolution radio that he played guitar on the last tour. It’s like he saw Billie Eilish and thought “yeah that’s what I want to be now.” I’ve never had a problem with him not playing guitar on St Jimmy or even FOA, but I do with bang bang and revolution radio and I hope to god he doesn’t do it with more older songs in the future or even new songs. Give someone three inches and then they take a yard, you know? I thought he was too stationed after the first leg of 21cb till now. We need some presence out there. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chin for a Day said: I've asked this before, many times, and have not received a satisfactory answer. Maybe you can explain. What exactly about FOAM is experimental? Well, I would not call FOAM experimental from a general music perspective, but for sure GD is experimenting new sounds with it, even only taking the falsetto into account. I really can’t describe it as a typical GD song, and I can’t really find another song in their catalogue that sounds in any way like that. When I look at the record I expect to hear more experimentation in this sense. Which doesn’t necessarily mean they have to invent a new sound, but to incorporate sounds they never or rarely used in their music. For sure I don’t expect GD to reinvent the wheel tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st_century_gloria Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Well, I would not call FOAM experimental from a general music perspective, but for sure GD is experimenting new sounds with it, even only taking the falsetto into account. I really can’t describe it as a typical GD song, and I can’t really find another song in their catalogue that sounds in any way like that. When I look at the record I expect to hear more experimentation in this sense. Which doesn’t necessarily mean they have to invent a new sound, but to incorporate sounds they never or rarely used in their music. For sure I don’t expect GD to reinvent the wheel tho Yeah I guess....well then, if you want true experimentation, you need to take a look at Yoko Ono 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Cunt said: I say this selfishly because Billie is one of my guitar idols but I can honestly say that my most hated part about this era of Green Day is Billie not playing his guitar on songs. Especially songs from revolution radio that he played guitar on the last tour. It’s like he saw Billie Eilish and thought “yeah that’s what I want to be now.” I’ve never had a problem with him not playing guitar on St Jimmy or even FOA, but I do with bang bang and revolution radio and I hope to god he doesn’t do it with more older songs in the future or even new songs. Give someone three inches and then they take a yard, you know? I completely disagree in the case of Bang Bang I think losing the guitar made that song come alive and it’s now surpassed St Jimmy for me as my favorite live performance. He’s such a dynamic performer letting him hand over the guitar responsibilities to Kevin a few times a show now really sets him free. He said he likes it and it shows. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: Yeah I guess....well then, if you want true experimentation, you need to take a look at Yoko Ono 😛 That's more like auditory genocide 8 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: I completely disagree in the case of Bang Bang I think losing the guitar made that song come alive and it’s now surpassed St Jimmy for me as my favorite live performance. He’s such a dynamic performer letting him hand over the guitar responsibilities to Kevin a few times a show now really sets him free. He said he likes it and it shows. It's fitting as it's similar to a Bad Religion song and Greg doesn't play guitar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 3:20 PM, jumpsalty said: xx days Music video? Like I said before, I’m taking nothing for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Redundantuserjinxboy Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: Music video? Like I said before, I’m taking nothing for granted. Is jumpsalty an insider or something? People seem to be taking this comment as if it actually means something. Does it? As for the album, it'll be fiiiiiiiiiiine. Something like if UNO and Stop Drop and Roll had a baby. Bubble gum garage pop. Critically it'll do fine. Fans will hate it at first; then a week later those same people will be talking about how "they've actually come around to FOAM." Then a month or so later people will be over hyping it, saying how its actually the best album since Dookie or Insomniac and how "its basically just like Nimrod." After the hype settles down I'm willing to bet most will have it above the trilogy albums at the very least. A short, wild, fun ride. And then three years from now we'll start getting the "Does anyone else think FOAM is criminally underrated?" comments; as well as "FOAM appreciation thread(s)." It'll be fine. Your using a green day forum in 2020 for God's sake. Odds are your gonna like this album either way. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 21st_century_gloria Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 54 minutes ago, Billie Joe's Eyelids said: Music video? Like I said before, I’m taking nothing for granted. Imo if there's gonna be a music video, it better not be the standard performance vid... I want to see something like still breathing/back in the USA when it comes to videos from them or even music videos in general (just my opinion tho) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, 21st_century_gloria said: Imo if there's gonna be a music video, it better not be the standard performance vid... I want to see something like still breathing/back in the USA when it comes to videos from them or even music videos in general (just my opinion tho) I miss the good old days where quality music videos were the standard 😢 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 I'm still waiting for the Forever Now video 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: I'm still waiting for the Forever Now video They’re gonna show it while performing the song during the European club tour 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 New music sooner than we think! 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lenny Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: I'm still waiting for the Forever Now video Forever Now, Forever Now you'll wait 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: They’re gonna show it while performing the song during the European club tour 4 minutes ago, Sheenius said: Forever Now, Forever Now you'll wait 7 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: New music sooner than we think! Do you all enjoy watching me suffer? 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnonymWarnerGermany Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: New music sooner than we think! Theyre talking about the 2nd album.👀 1 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post AnonymWarnerGermany Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 Even Mark Zuckerberg is more excited for the new Beat Saber Pack than for the new Album 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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