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16 minutes ago, Cunt said:

Hahahahahahahahaha

FOB are bigger, commercially, and thats pretty much all that matters these days. If you asked any high school (secondary school for us British folk) kids who they've heard of, more would say FOB. Sure if you asked adults more would have heard of GD. But if you played both band's songs to people who had no idea about either of them, more would recognise FOB songs.

 

Its strange cos historically yeah GD are much bigger. But right now, talking about current success FOB are far ahead.

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1 hour ago, desertrose said:

I just want to see Green Day.  I want to hear their new music and some old stuff too. I want a 3 hour concert of just them.  I will pay whatever to see them.  My thoughts are if they package this, I will just show up late to see Green Day. Maybe we will get some early (secret) Green Day shows only here in the Bay Area first.

Definitely will get a mini tour first and probably the majority of them will be all over the west coast. Might be cut short due to late release date but unless Billie feels invigorated enough by the LS shows, he is ready to go. That said, they like to try the new tracks before touring with the hardcore fans. We will see.

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Someone on the FOB Reddit is saying that they've been sent a photo of that same tour poster from a venue in Cali

 

I don't do detective work around here, but fuck it I just read that. Who cares if its true

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its going to be massive, regardless of anyone's personal assessment of quality. if youre into the concept of this tour and reeeally want a shot at getting tickets for NOT an absurd amount due to secondary market pricing, join whatever fan club, venue mailing list, etc. you can NOW, so you can get a shot for presales. when tickets hit the public market, its going to be an exponential markup.

 

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9 minutes ago, Ross_19 said:

FOB are bigger, commercially, and thats pretty much all that matters these days. If you asked any high school (secondary school for us British folk) kids who they've heard of, more would say FOB. Sure if you asked adults more would have heard of GD. But if you played both band's songs to people who had no idea about either of them, more would recognise FOB songs.

 

Its strange cos historically yeah GD are much bigger. But right now, talking about current success FOB are far ahead.

True. Green Day has 14 396 030 monthly listeners on Spotify and FOB has 24 148 715. FOB is commercially huge right now.

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3 minutes ago, Tisu said:

True. Green Day has 14 396 030 monthly listeners on Spotify and FOB has 24 148 715. FOB is commercially huge right now.

Don't worry though, when the upcoming bad pop album comes out GD will shoot up those charts!

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15 minutes ago, Ross_19 said:

FOB are bigger, commercially, and thats pretty much all that matters these days. If you asked any high school (secondary school for us British folk) kids who they've heard of, more would say FOB. Sure if you asked adults more would have heard of GD. But if you played both band's songs to people who had no idea about either of them, more would recognise FOB songs.

 

Its strange cos historically yeah GD are much bigger. But right now, talking about current success FOB are far ahead.

Well shit if you’re talking about England the hell if I know how popular FOB is over there. But in the states Green Day is a bigger band than FOB. FOB seriously dumps god only knows how many tickets to make a venue look full in the states. 

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1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

It looks like it's going to be marketed as more than supports considering that the promo of all bands is coordinated and it seems to be presented as a big deal, while usually supports don't get announced until later and there's no fuss around them. Plus they tend to be smaller bands. This does look like a common tour.

They can market it however they like, but Green Day will ultimately be the headline act and as such will command a headline slot, especially in a stadium environment 

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I cannot see Fall Out Boy not headlining, or playing for the same length as the headliner, at any show at this point in their career. They're bigger than GD right now, but I would prefer (if I ever get the chance to see this maybe show that will probably not come anywhere near me) Weezer opening, and FOB and GD doing the same length sets with GD closing.

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5 minutes ago, Tisu said:

True. Green Day has 14 396 030 monthly listeners on Spotify and FOB has 24 148 715. FOB is commercially huge right now.

Yeah, and if you did the same test in 1995 and 2005, the numbers would be even more greatly  different in favor of GD. When FOB holds on to their fans and those numbers for that much generational time, we can have this discussion.

I dunno. My bias is getting in the way.

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11 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

Far ahead is a stretch but your point is taken. I’ll actually go get some Pollstar numbers to see what the exact actuals are but who is bigger is not even close. FOB lose their fans as they age and GD tends not to as much which means, should they choose, much like the Stones, Zeppelin, and bands that are classic are more in line with GD and who they are now, before and in the future. No telling what FOB will do in the future but they are for sure currently massively popular amongst a smaller niche market and that’s a sliver of the population that you live in. The world exists as an entire place and GD is generationally bigger. When was the last time McCartney put out a gold record but as I said on here once before, at the Dodger Stadium show, the PA was playing Beatles, Wings and Paul songs and they played 6, yes 6 #1 songs in the half hour leading up to the show. Most bands don’t have that in their entire discography. 

A band is judged more on everything, not a sliver of the population now. As I said above, if you ask 50 people who is Green Day and who is Fall Out Boy and it’s completely random. I’d guess MAYBE 30-40% may have heard of them, and maybe 20% could name 2 songs. Ask the same about GD and probably 85% or would know who they are and probably half or more could name a couple songs. Completely arbitrary numbers that are probably off but the point is there.

In a vacuum, comparing FOB and GD are not similar things. FOB are massive and probably don’t get the credit they deserve from people including myself but I’ll give them a chance and we will see. Of course it all always varies from state to state and country to country.

To put another way, I believe FOB will be a footnote of the 20th century and Green Day will be generational for a long time because they have more timeless songs. Songs that won’t be dated.

But again, I don’t even know enough about FOB to be making these assertions but I do know they generationally, GD are objectively more popular.

Oh I'm with you for sure, in terms of a mark on history Green Day have, and will have, left a bigger mark than FOB by the end of their careers, the Green Day legacy is huge. I mean, FOB themselves are massively inspired by Green Day. 

 

But I think you might be wrong about asking any random person on the street. Of course the age of the person will impact their answer, but I think that the knowledge of FOB will be much closer to GD than you think, if not greater. Given that top 40 radio dominates what most people listen to. It would be a similar thing with Panic who've had a near enough identical evolution to FOB. 

 

Without doubt GD is overal the bigger name worldwide and in the history books, but FOB's commercial success in the last decade has raised their status massively. I think in the more powerful countries like the US, UK, Germany etc, I would say FOB are as popular as GD right now, but the historical success of GD is what gives them the edge.

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Maybe FOB sells a lot, but Weezer and Green Day both have a ridiculous fandom. If this is real, i think just 5% of the assistants would go for FOB.

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Just now, bocasalada said:

Maybe FOB sells a lot, but Weezer and Green Day both have a ridiculous fandom. If this is real, i think just 5% of the assistants would go for FOB.

Didn't somebody mention a few pages ago that Weezer are struggling to sell out O2 Academy Brixton? A club in London

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16 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

Yeah, and if you did the same test in 1995 and 2005, the numbers would be even more greatly  different in favor of GD. When FOB holds on to their fans and those numbers for that much generational time, we can have this discussion.

I dunno. My bias is getting in the way.

Well consider FOB didn't exist in 1995, I don't think it's really fair to do said test in 1995 :lol:

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Just now, bocasalada said:

Maybe FOB sells a lot, but Weezer and Green Day both have a ridiculous fandom. If this is real, i think just 5% of the assistants would go for FOB.

I know one thing, I would not want to be trying to get tickets as soon as they go on sale for this tour. Re-sale would be easier, but much more expensive

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Just now, Taste said:

I know one thing, I would not want to be trying to get tickets as soon as they go on sale for this tour. Re-sale would be easier, but much more expensive

If its in a stadium though with 50,000 plus people, surely that will help when it comes to ticket buying? Given that a normal arena these bands usually tour at holds no more than 20,000 generally.

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Just now, Ross_19 said:

If its in a stadium though with 50,000 plus people, surely that will help when it comes to ticket buying? Given that a normal arena these bands usually tour at holds no more than 20,000 generally.

Yeah that's probably true. Didn't think about the size of the stadiums

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1 minute ago, Hermione said:

Green Day also have a big reputation as an exceptional live act. They pull in numbers at shows based on that reputation alone even when they don't have a popular album out. Can the same be said for FOB? Not that I'm aware of. Over here at least pretty sure a GD show is a lot bigger news than a FOB show

I've seen a couple vids of FOB live. They've not been great tbh

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