Hella Mega Tour with Weezer, Fall Out Boy

[Beerjeezus]

It totally was marketed to children, if it’s approproate for them is a whole another question

[pacejunkie punk]

46 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Fuck, if I offended anyone else, I apologize. But my point still remains. FOAMF is for, and marketed to children.

How exactly was it marketed to children?  They did a deal with the NHL and Harley-Davidson not Kelloggs, Skechers or Fisher Price.  Was it tied in to any children's products or brands?  I'm not seeing how the marketing strategy was aimed at an under 18 demographic.  I think the aesthetic and coke references were childish (meaning the product of immature minds) but that's not the same as aimed to sell to children.

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

7 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

How exactly was it marketed to children?  They did a deal with the NHL and Harley-Davidson not Kelloggs, Skechers or Fisher Price.  Was it tied in to any children's products or brands?  I'm not seeing how the marketing strategy was aimed at an under 18 demographic.  I think the aesthetic and coke references were childish (meaning the product of immature minds) but that's not the same as aimed to sell to children.

You've seen their Tiktok, right? 

Then there's this caption . That is a blatant attempt to be hip with the kids (and one that makes me cringe). They weren't making those Tiktoks for the boomers.

[Beerjeezus]

13 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

How exactly was it marketed to children?  They did a deal with the NHL and Harley-Davidson not Kelloggs, Skechers or Fisher Price.  Was it tied in to any children's products or brands?  I'm not seeing how the marketing strategy was aimed at an under 18 demographic.  I think the aesthetic and coke references were childish (meaning the product of immature minds) but that's not the same as aimed to sell to children.

The tik tok account, beat saber and the whole aesthetic with unicorns and rainbows are things that aim at kids (among others). I do wonder wtf were the marketing ppl thinking

[pacejunkie punk]

2 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

You've seen their Tiktok, right? 

Then there's this caption . That is a blatant attempt to be hip with the kids (and one that makes me cringe). They weren't making those Tiktoks for the boomers.

I don't know, TikTok isn't just for twelve year olds anymore.  They were trying to get a video to go viral but that's different from marketing directly to children.  Gen Zers are in their twenties now and they all use TikTok

[Beerjeezus]

3 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

You've seen their Tiktok, right? 

Then there's this caption . That is a blatant attempt to be hip with the kids (and one that makes me cringe). They weren't making those Tiktoks for the boomers.

That’s not that bad haha

[pacejunkie punk]

1 minute ago, Beerjeezus said:

The tik tok account, beat saber and the whole aesthetic with unicorns and rainbows are things that aim at kids (among others). I do wonder wtf were the marketing ppl thinking

The unicorn is drunk and puking, it's a joke. But it's no different from having Ernie on the back of Dookie or the Drunk Bunny.  These guys have always had a cartoon quality about them but I think that's more an extension of their own goofiness and immaturity and not the age group they're aimed at

[Montclare]

I don't see it as being marketed towards children either.  The standard 16-29 demographic that everyone is always after, yes.  I definitely don't think their marketing was good last time around though.  It felt scattered and they need to examine it going forward.

Also, I would categorize Rev Rad as, I've accepted I'm an adult, and FOAM as, but I don't want to be an adult!

[Beerjeezus]

1 minute ago, pacejunkie punk said:

The unicorn is drunk and puking, it's a joke. But it's no different from having Ernie on the back of Dookie or the Drunk Bunny.  These guys have always had a cartoon quality about them but I think that's more an extension of their own goofiness and immaturity and not the age group they're aimed at

Fair enough, you’re right that the unicorn isn’t all that different from the Bunny. Honestly, I don’t know? I just don’t see how the cartoony stuff they were posting on social media would appeal to adults, but maybe the reason isn’t that they were targeting kids on purpose, but it was simply just cringy. On the other hand, I think this isn’t all that different from when they put Troublemaker into Angry Birds so I’m leaning towards it being on purpose.

[MarriedtoMikeDirnt]

2 minutes ago, Montclare said:

Also, I would categorize Rev Rad as, I've accepted I'm an adult, and FOAM as, but I don't want to be an adult!

Exactly. RevRad was accepting that they're not kids anymore and life goes on.

Then FOAMF came in like "ha ha, gotcha bitch!"

 

6 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I don't know, TikTok isn't just for twelve year olds anymore.  They were trying to get a video to go viral but that's different from marketing directly to children.  Gen Zers are in their twenties now and they all use TikTok

They could've used Instagram to reach to older Gen Z. But they chose to spread the word through the playground.

[pacejunkie punk]

11 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Exactly. RevRad was accepting that they're not kids anymore and life goes on.

Then FOAMF came in like "ha ha, gotcha bitch!"

 

They could've used Instagram to reach to older Gen Z. But they chose to spread the word through the playground.

My Gen Z’er is always on TikTok, she never uses Instagram. Everything skews older than you realize. As soon as parents get on a platform, the kids go somewhere else.

RevRad was a mature period because it was a sober period. Then Billie decided growing up was overrated and started drinking again and regressed with FOAM. Definitely a sign of immaturity. I think aging scares the hell out of him.

[Squashie]

1 hour ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Fuck, if I offended anyone else, I apologize. But my point still remains. FOAMF is for, and marketed to children.

Your market demographic is off - as other have stated here.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

3 hours ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

You've seen their Tiktok, right? 

Not until just now. Oh dear.

[Cunt]

I don’t think it’s about it being marketed to children. It’s just crush management not knowing how to promote Green Day. They’re trying to promote them like FOB and it’s back firing and maybe the band doesn’t care, but the album underperformed.  
 

I also want to add the just because Green Day is doing this tour doesn’t mean they cared who the tour was with. I think the main thing for them was that they wanted to do stadiums but they definitely couldn’t do it by themselves. I remember seeing an interview with Def Leppard and Joe Elliot said that they don’t really care who opens for them. He explained it as they handed them a paper that said Styx and Tesla and they were like “Whatever”. I think the same thing is kinda happening here where Green Day really don’t care who the tour is with as long as they can fill up stadiums. Especially after the billboard interview and the “Dream collaborations” question and then Billie walking off. The point comes back to the fact that Scott Nagleberg is an idiot because aside from 4 or 5 sold out shows and a handful of others that are close there are some markets ticket sales that are really ugly for this tour even before COVID. I think the Green Day/ Weezer tour would be great for arenas and amphitheaters but adding on FOB doesn’t push this bill to a stadium show aside from a few markets. If Green Day truly wanted to go through stadiums is with great ticket sales they should’ve done Green Day/Blink 182/Weezer or Green Day/Foo Fighters/Weezer.

The point at the end of the day is that Crush sucks at marketing and managing. 

 

[michael1989]

10 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

RevRad was a mature period because it was a sober period. Then Billie decided growing up was overrated and started drinking again and regressed with FOAM. Definitely a sign of immaturity. I think aging scares the hell out of him.

I hope you mean FOAM is a sign of immaturity and not drinking. There's nothing wrong with adults drinking and having fun. It's not like alcohol is restricted to teenagers.

[Beerjeezus]

31 minutes ago, michael1989 said:

I hope you mean FOAM is a sign of immaturity and not drinking. There's nothing wrong with adults drinking and having fun. It's not like alcohol is restricted to teenagers.

It is a sign of both.

[michael1989]

Wow lot of immature people in the world then...real nice thing to say

[Beerjeezus]

1 minute ago, michael1989 said:

Wow lot of immature people in the world then...real nice thing to say

Yes, there is a lot of immature people in the world. That’s a claim broad enough that it would be hard to disagree.

[pacejunkie punk]

6 hours ago, Cunt said:

I don’t think it’s about it being marketed to children. It’s just crush management not knowing how to promote Green Day. They’re trying to promote them like FOB and it’s back firing and maybe the band doesn’t care, but the album underperformed.  
 

I also want to add the just because Green Day is doing this tour doesn’t mean they cared who the tour was with. I think the main thing for them was that they wanted to do stadiums but they definitely couldn’t do it by themselves. I remember seeing an interview with Def Leppard and Joe Elliot said that they don’t really care who opens for them. He explained it as they handed them a paper that said Styx and Tesla and they were like “Whatever”. I think the same thing is kinda happening here where Green Day really don’t care who the tour is with as long as they can fill up stadiums. Especially after the billboard interview and the “Dream collaborations” question age then Billie walking off. The point comes back to the fact that Scott Nagleberg is an idiot because aside from 4 or 5 sold out shows and a handful of others that are close there are some markets ticket sales that are really ugly for this tour even before COVID. I think the Green Day/ Weezer tour would be great for arenas and amphitheaters but adding on FOB doesn’t push this bill to a stadium show aside from a few markets. If Green Day truly wanted to go through stadiums is with great ticket sales they should’ve done Green Day/Blink 182/Weezer or Green Day/Foo Fighters/Weezer.

The point at the end of the day is that Crush sucks at marketing and managing. 

 

a simple arena tour with Weezer would have been awesome and would definitely have sold out. I agree I don’t think FOB has the capacity to elevate this much. Foo Fighters definitely but then there would have been a fight over who headlined, especially with different management 

 

1 hour ago, michael1989 said:

I hope you mean FOAM is a sign of immaturity and not drinking. There's nothing wrong with adults drinking and having fun. It's not like alcohol is restricted to teenagers.

Let’s not have this debate again. Of course I’m not talking about a typical adult and social drinking, but a self described alcoholic post-rehab. It’s a sign of regression not progress.

[Beerjeezus]

2 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

a simple arena tour with Weezer would have been awesome and would definitely have sold out. I agree I don’t think FOB has the capacity to elevate this much. Foo Fighters definitely but then there would have been a fight over who headlined, especially with different management 

Either would be so much better than HM. I agree The Foos might be too big for this type of tour, but they could take turns like on the tour with Blink and I’d be happy. A normal tour is still the best option though.

[michael1989]

2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Let’s not have this debate again. Of course I’m not talking about a typical adult and social drinking, but a self described alcoholic post-rehab. It’s a sign of regression not progress.

I know what you're talking about and it's still condescending. But since this debate's already been had I'll leave it at that.

[purplebenny]

Any further info on this apart from  Weezer being deluded about it going ahead this year?

 

Some tours being rescheduled at the minute again 

[Beerjeezus]

How is the Superbowl going ahead with an audience? Testing? Reduced capacity? If there’s a way to make a big sports event happen, maybe a concert could be possible too.

[Squashie]

14 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

How is the Superbowl going ahead with an audience? Testing? Reduced capacity? If there’s a way to make a big sports event happen, maybe a concert could be possible too.

It says it's limited in-person attendance - and it's being held in Florida which has minimal restrictions.

I'm going to assume that those allowed in are family of the teams and large corporate sponsors.

 

NASCAR had fan attendance (very limited) last year starting in August/September. I think the most they allowed at any race after March was 8,000 at 90,000 capacity track.

 

EDIT: Here is info on attendance from NFL(.)com https://www.nfl.com/news/official-attendance-expected-for-super-bowl-lv-25-000-fans-30-000-cutouts#:~:text=The official attendance figures expected,30%2C000 cutouts%2C per the NFL.

[Joe.]

Unless Crush wrote FOAM instead of the band, they're not to blame. The band didn't exactly give them much to work with did they?

The proper test for Crush will be whatever comes next. If it's of any quality and it tanks, that's on Crush. FOAM's promotion suited the album, they were both fucking terrible and made the band look like a legacy act.

On 2/2/2021 at 12:39 PM, Beerjeezus said:

Either would be so much better than HM. I agree The Foos might be too big for this type of tour, but they could take turns like on the tour with Blink and I’d be happy. A normal tour is still the best option though.

Foo Fighters sell out stadiums on their own. No way on earth would they pay Green Day to support them.

On 2/2/2021 at 12:33 PM, pacejunkie punk said:

a simple arena tour with Weezer would have been awesome and would definitely have sold out. I agree I don’t think FOB has the capacity to elevate this much. Foo Fighters definitely but then there would have been a fight over who headlined, especially with different management 

 

 

No there wouldn't? Foo Fighters would certainly be top of the bill. Have had the argument of who's bigger many times, but I'll tell you for nothing Foo's shift waaaaaaaaaay more tickets than GD, at least in the last few years.