Squashie Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Rage against the machine (rage against the fucking machine) is selling tickets for their reunion tour in the US for over 280$. Is everyone gone fucking mad in this country? 😮 I’m really starting to see the hella mega tickets as reasonably priced. Geez. Right?! $280 for fucking nose bleeds. SMDH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, DadBod said: Right?! $280 for fucking nose bleeds. SMDH I love the band, but yes, that price range is ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Axl Rose Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, DadBod said: Right?! $280 for fucking nose bleeds. SMDH No they aren't. Every ticket is $125 plus fees. They have some that are over that but the proceeds go to charity. Morello has explained this. I saw them in 93 ,in their prime opening for Cypress Hill for about $15 so I'll pass but with every show sold out they'll do fine without me. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rage-against-the-machines-tom-morello-the-most-expensive-ticket-for-any-headline-show-on-reunion-tour-is-125/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, W Axl Rose said: No they aren't. Every ticket is $125 plus fees. They have some that are over that but the proceeds go to charity. Morello has explained this. I saw them in 93 ,in their prime opening for Cypress Hill for about $15 so I'll pass but with every show sold out they'll do fine without me. Thanks for the info, that makes it better. Edit: am I having sight issues or there are tickets at 500$ here 😮 https://www1.ticketmaster.com/rage-against-the-machine/event/0C005779A45444D8#offer-card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Ticketmaster adds fees on top of the ticket price and then splits the profit with promoters/bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Ok, (sorry for the off topic, but I think it’s somehow relevant) this explains what is happening, and they are actually doing a really smart thing: https://loudwire.com/rage-against-the-machine-tickets-3-million-charity-stop-85-percent-scalpers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Am I the only one who thinks this is a load of bullshit? "We want to prevent scalping so we're inflating the prices ourselves". Well thanks, I don't really see what it changes for me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Am I the only one who thinks this is a load of bullshit? "We want to prevent scalping so we're inflating the prices ourselves". Well thanks, I don't really see what it changes for me. Well, they are keeping 10% of the tickets out of the initial sale, the rest were sold at normale prices. These tickets are then sold at inflated prices as it would happen with secondary sales, but all the revenue is given to charity. The point is: if someone is crazy enough to pay 500$ for a resale ticket, better to find a way to give this 500$ to charity rather than an asshole profiting out of it. This way scalpers activities are limited, cause there’s still ticket available on Ticketmaster, and reselling a ticket for 3 times its face value doesn’t really make sense, and is essentially impossible. You would have found these tickets for these prices anyway on secondary ticketing websites, since these are sold out shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: Well, they are keeping 10% of the tickets out of the initial sale, the rest were sold at normale prices. These tickets are then sold at inflated prices as it would happen with secondary sales, but all the revenue is given to charity. The point is: if someone is crazy enough to pay 500$ for a resale ticket, better to find a way to give this 500$ to charity rather than an asshole profiting out of it. This way scalpers activities are limited, cause there’s still ticket available on Ticketmaster, and reselling a ticket for 3 times its face value doesn’t really make sense, and is essentially impossible. You would have found these tickets for these prices anyway on secondary ticketing websites, since these are sold out shows. Well ok I guess? I don't think it's an ideal solution for scalping, but it has some logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gaslight13 Posted February 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Am I the only one who thinks this is a load of bullshit? "We want to prevent scalping so we're inflating the prices ourselves". Well thanks, I don't really see what it changes for me. I agree with you. It isn’t necessary. The only band I’ve seen have a kind of good system for this is Pearl Jam. They snag as many tickets as the promoter will allow, and then allow fan club members to enter a lottery by city. You can enter for as many cities as you want. All tix are face value not inflated. Only downside is if you win there’s no going back, your card is charged and you can’t sell the ticket. The seniority system for awarding the seats sucks too but other bands could do all this and leave that out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, gaslight13 said: I agree with you. It isn’t necessary. The only band I’ve seen have a kind of good system for this is Pearl Jam. They snag as many tickets as the promoter will allow, and then allow fan club members to enter a lottery by city. You can enter for as many cities as you want. All tix are face value not inflated. Only downside is if you win there’s no going back, your card is charged and you can’t sell the ticket. The seniority system for awarding the seats sucks too but other bands could do all this and leave that out. That seems a lot better. It's actually making tickets affordable and available to fans, unlike RATM's system that inconveniences everyone (both fans and scalpers). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, gaslight13 said: I agree with you. It isn’t necessary. The only band I’ve seen have a kind of good system for this is Pearl Jam. They snag as many tickets as the promoter will allow, and then allow fan club members to enter a lottery by city. You can enter for as many cities as you want. All tix are face value not inflated. Only downside is if you win there’s no going back, your card is charged and you can’t sell the ticket. The seniority system for awarding the seats sucks too but other bands could do all this and leave that out. This doesn’t solve secondary ticketing issues tho. Once a show is sold out, someone can still sell his normal, non fan club, ticket for 500$ and profit out of it. The only real, final, solution to the problem is to forbid by law reselling, as many countries in Europe are doing. You have your name on the ticket, have to show an ID when entering the venue, and there’s no way to resell it. Downside is that if you can’t go to the show for some legit reason and want to give away the ticket you can’t do that. But that’s the only real way to solve the problem. Denmark tried to do this in the soft way, by law it’s illegal to sell a ticket for more than its face value, but this doesn’t work. You still find on viagogo tickets for 5, 6, 10 times they’re face value. In principle one could end up with a huge fine for this, but in the real world no State has enough recourses to enforce this. Forbidding resell is the only way to solve the problem, leaving the solution in the hands of bands and the private sector in general just doesn’t work IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaslight13 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, HAPPY ROOTING UNICORN said: This doesn’t solve secondary ticketing issues tho. Once a show is sold out, someone can still sell his normal, non fan club, ticket for 500$ and profit out of it. The only real, final, solution to the problem is to forbid by law reselling, as many countries in Europe are doing. You have your name on the ticket, have to show an ID when entering the venue, and there’s no way to resell it. Downside is that if you can’t go to the show for some legit reason and want to give away the ticket you can’t do that. But that’s the only real way to solve the problem. Denmark tried to do this in the soft way, by law it’s illegal to sell a ticket for more than its face value, but this doesn’t work. You still find on viagogo tickets for 5, 6, 10 times they’re face value. In principle one could end up with a huge fine for this, but in the real world no State has enough recourses to enforce this. Forbidding resell is the only way to solve the problem, leaving the solution in the hands of bands and the private sector in general just doesn’t work IMHO. You're right it doesn't. But it's something and it's more than most bands are doing. You have an actual CHANCE at good face value tix. Not that it should be on bands to fix this problem but they do have some power to try and help. But yes it should be illegal. And tickets should be transferable still but only for face value. The ID thing is just too hard when you have 20k+ people at multiple entrances, and I don't wanna punish the people who ended up buying a legitimate but scalped ticket. We'll never completely eliminate scalping but yes, there does need to be legal action. I just don't have a whole lot of hope that anything will happen. It's not a priority of the US gov't at the very least, which honestly when you consider how much else we need to deal with (and aren't) that's dire, it really shouldn't be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, gaslight13 said: You're right it doesn't. But it's something and it's more than most bands are doing. You have an actual CHANCE at good face value tix. Not that it should be on bands to fix this problem but they do have some power to try and help. But yes it should be illegal. And tickets should be transferable still but only for face value. The ID thing is just too hard when you have 20k+ people at multiple entrances, and I don't wanna punish the people who ended up buying a legitimate but scalped ticket. We'll never completely eliminate scalping but yes, there does need to be legal action. I just don't have a whole lot of hope that anything will happen. It's not a priority of the US gov't at the very least, which honestly when you consider how much else we need to deal with (and aren't) that's dire, it really shouldn't be. True, but it can be fixed. In Italy, for example, there have been some huge scandals showing the connection between official ticketing platforms and scalpers, and these pushed the legislators to pass laws making ticket resells illegal. Venues and event organizers had to change how ticket controls work, but now as far as I know every big event has an ID based ticketing system. That doesn’t stop 30.000+ people events and concerts from happening. I am going to see GD in Milan next summer and the concert is gonna have ID checks (the ticket has my name on it). Not sure if under special circumstances you can transfer your ticket to a different person, but anyhow that’s a compromise I am willing to accept to stop the scalping issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I think these secondary sites like StubHub should be shutdown and outlawed. But because most companies like Ticketmaster are in bed with them, it makes it hard. The practice needs more regulation in the states because it's freaking ridiculous. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Article from NME about the "crowd pleasing" setlist: https://www.nme.com/news/music/green-days-billie-joe-armstrong-teases-crowd-pleasing-hella-mega-tour-setlist-promising-all-the-favourites-2609938 Green Day’s Billie Joe Armstrong teases crowd-pleasing Hella Mega Tour setlist, promising “all the favourites” The band hit the road with Weezer and Fall Out Boy this year Green Day's Bille Joe Armstrong has discussed the band’s upcoming Hella Mega tour dates across 2020, hinting at a crowd-pleasing setlist. The band will hit the road across the planet with Weezer and Fall Out Boy this year, with the tour announced in conjunction with each band releasing a new song last September. In a new interview with Zane Lowe for Beats 1, Armstrong said: “It’s going to be a lot of familiar tunes that are gonna be played. You know, we’re going to play a couple of new songs, and then definitely going to blast into all of the stuff that people… all the favourites.” Teased by Lowe on his previous refusal to admit that Green Day have “hits”, Billie Joe then reveals: “We’re playing the hits!” “We have more songs,” Billie Joe continues. “I’ve written, like, three or four since the first single [Father Of All…] came out [last September]. I mean, the way people are able to put out music now, we’re so stoked, because now we can just put stuff out anytime we want – we’re completely unstructured. So to put out a single here, or an EP there, or contribute something to what would eventually be an album… we don’t really know, but we’re into it. So hopefully maybe there’ll be even more music this summer. We’ll see what happens.” When asked how many songs Green Day have leftover from the Father Of All… sessions, Billie Joe reveals, “We’ve got, like, seven songs left from that session. And then, yeah, there’s like four more [that have been written since then], so we have almost another album’s worth of stuff right now.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Axl Rose Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: Am I the only one who thinks this is a load of bullshit? "We want to prevent scalping so we're inflating the prices ourselves". Well thanks, I don't really see what it changes for me. It's for charity. The highest non charity ticket as posted above is $125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 15 hours ago, W Axl Rose said: No they aren't. Every ticket is $125 plus fees. They have some that are over that but the proceeds go to charity. Morello has explained this. I saw them in 93 ,in their prime opening for Cypress Hill for about $15 so I'll pass but with every show sold out they'll do fine without me. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rage-against-the-machines-tom-morello-the-most-expensive-ticket-for-any-headline-show-on-reunion-tour-is-125/ You'll also be on tour yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I have to admit this seems weird. The album is out, but they won't tour until the summer basically. The marketing for this album and tour has been weird. I have to think something new will come out right before they start the tour. Maybe an ep called Hella Mega. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tek said: I have to admit this seems weird. The album is out, but they won't tour until the summer basically. The marketing for this album and tour has been weird. I have to think something new will come out right before they start the tour. Maybe an ep called Hella Mega. The tour starts in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, jetsrule128 said: The tour starts in March. Ah, I thought in June since the hella mega tour has that as a start date. I see that they are playing a few shows in March for Asia pacific then nothing in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPunk94 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 7 hours ago, jetsrule128 said: The tour starts in March. if they dont cancel some shows in asia because of the virus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, GuitarPunk94 said: if they dont cancel some shows in asia because of the virus I don't think they will cancel show because of the Heinekenvirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said: I don't think they will cancel show because of the Heinekenvirus Heinekenvirus is what you get in the morning after a night out? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, GuitarPunk94 said: if they dont cancel some shows in asia because of the virus I'm kind of surprised they haven't to be honest. A lot of artists have. I can only think they're monitoring the situation over the next couple of weeks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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