DeJennsitized Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Weird that there would be a book about this song of all songs. It wasn't a hit (it was the 5th single of 21CB that was basically ignored), it's not really a fan favourite, they never play it live and it's not even one of their more interesting songs lyrically or musically imo I sort of see it, because each line paints a picture that can be imagined visually and illustrated. But it is a bit random. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, DeJennsitized said: I thought he meant the Bob Gruen book but if it's this, he'll have to do a dramatic reading on skype Oh he totally does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Here’s part of what Brit showed last year (I remember another illustration of the girl on a bike). Looks like the cover has changed dramatically. I liked the old striped paint version this new one with the X makes it look more like a Confederate flag on a quick glance but maybe that’s just me. At least the took off “Billy” and credited Green Day instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 That looks good. I like the old cover better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlissaGoesRAWR Posted April 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2019 Yeah, that's, like, exactly what I expected... I really don't think it's worth getting worked up about or over-analyzing. I doubt the band members had anything to do with the description that's been used in the news stories or really much of it at all, aside from signing off on the artist using the lyrics and their names. Even if they did, it's literally just a lyric book. I've never heard of anyone being offended by the song, which was written by a guy about girls... so I'm not really sure why the lyrics or that concept would suddenly become insensitive 10 years later. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hermione Posted April 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Yeah, that's, like, exactly what I expected... I really don't think it's worth getting worked up about or over-analyzing. I doubt the band members had anything to do with the description that's been used in the news stories or really much of it at all, aside from signing off on the artist using the lyrics and their names. Even if they did, it's literally just a lyric book. I've never heard of anyone being offended by the song, which was written by a guy about girls... so I'm not really sure why the lyrics or that concept would suddenly become insensitive 10 years later. I don't think anyone thinks the lyrics or the lyrics illustrated are offensive haha, it was just that awful description of it being a book that's a handbook for true rebel girls that made it sound terrible/cringy lol. Glad to see it's not that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I don't think anyone on GDC is really overthinking it or getting wound up, though. We're just saying the description is bad, because it is. And that's a shame because if it's just illustrated lyrics it's obviously harmless, but people who won't look into it like we will are getting the wrong idea. edit: Hermione got there first but yeah. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I was so excited about Green Day releasing something I didn't really stop to think about the implications of the description and yeah, it sounds bad. It sounds exactly like mansplaining as others have mentioned. When you describe it as a handbook for rebellious girls and have no women working on it whatsoever, it looks really dubious. It really sounds like whoever does their PR wanted to be cute, but ended up sounding ignorant in the process. Still, I was interested to see exactly what it was since the description didn't even do a decent job at that. If it's a picture book to go along with lyrics of a subpar song, eh kind of boring. Though I am relieved to see it's just a bad description and the book is not what the description makes it sound like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted April 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2019 Maybe that's their new marketing strategy - make everything they do sound absolutely horrendous and then anything will be a pleasant surprise 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Libertine Angel Posted April 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2019 So the description makes it sound like a group of men telling women how to rebel, but in actuality it's...a picture book of a mediocre single. It's times like this where you have to remember, someone came up with this idea and everyone said yes. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I don't really see the point with this book but I'm glad its content isn't as bad as the description would have you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: It's times like this where you have to remember, someone came up with this idea and everyone said yes. think about how many times this could be said throughout history! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 If they really wanted to have a cartoonist work with their lyrics I'd hope for them to just fully embrace irony and make a Picture Book of Warning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I'd rather new music than whatever the hell this is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: If they really wanted to have a cartoonist work with their lyrics I'd hope for them to just fully embrace irony and make a Picture Book of Warning. How about Fuck Time? 😂 Okay everybody, what GD song would you most want to see illustrated like a kids book? 3 minutes ago, EmmaCharlatan&Saints said: I'd rather new music than whatever the hell this is Why not both? 🙂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Why not both? 🙂 Because this seems completely and utterly pointless. I mean the song barely registered when it come out...10 freaking years ago. I mean it seems like a weak attempt to jump on the current women taking a stand for themselves train. Or as people have said faux wokeness. As I said give me new music over this tripe anyday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: How about Fuck Time? 😂 Okay everybody, what GD song would you most want to see illustrated like a kids book? Why not both? 🙂 Probably a funny one like King For A Day Yeah, I'm cool with this. I think it's good they did this with an less known song, it's a nice change that something that's not from American Idiot or Dookie is getting attention. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I like the song but it’s a weird choice. If I were to choose a song to illustrate I’d probably pick 21CB itself, or maybe Still Breathing, or The Grouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUBBYBUB Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I love last of the American Girls. The book sounds like a tribute to women I'm excited and the cartoonist worked with Bruce Springsteen cabt get better than that 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofygoldfish Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Maybe it's (the song) written for Britt/with her in mind/she provided inspiration, so it's more her behind the project. I don't know why I've thought this in the past, and then when she showed that clip last year, I was like 'oh yeah, this fits my random theory'... That's as far as it goes though 😂 If that theory falls flat on its arse, then I'm with the stupid t-shirt and LOTAG book just being money spinners whilst we wait for Mickey to get old enough to let the boys out to play again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Goofygoldfish said: Maybe it's (the song) written for Britt/with her in mind/she provided inspiration, so it's more her behind the project. Billie wrote the song about Adrienne (at the beginning of it). The rest of it is about how he, Billie, lives (or lived at the time, cuz people change over 10 years) his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Hermione said: I don't think anyone thinks the lyrics or the lyrics illustrated are offensive haha, it was just that awful description of it being a book that's a handbook for true rebel girls that made it sound terrible/cringy lol. Glad to see it's not that. 5 hours ago, solongfromthestars said: I don't think anyone on GDC is really overthinking it or getting wound up, though. We're just saying the description is bad, because it is. And that's a shame because if it's just illustrated lyrics it's obviously harmless, but people who won't look into it like we will are getting the wrong idea. It wasn't just the description, though — it was also already pointed out that the girl on the cover is blonde, white and pretty though, like it was a problem and against what the song describes, which is just difficult for me to wrap my head around (I see these sort of comments all the time on advertisements that feature women on social media, too). Like, I get that it's toxic for society to communicate that you can only be pretty if you're blonde and white, but I don't think making the cover girl blonde and white in it itself is problematic. Maybe they could've included multiple, diverse women on the cover? I don't know the answer. I guess sometimes I just feel like I'm a bad feminist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I always saw LOTAG as a commentary on the stereotypical "strong American woman" and also just a love song for Adrienne. I'm more puzzled as to why they're making a book about a unpopular song written 10 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 50 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: It wasn't just the description, though — it was also already pointed out that the girl on the cover is blonde, white and pretty though, like it was a problem and against what the song describes, which is just difficult for me to wrap my head around (I see these sort of comments all the time on advertisements that feature women on social media, too). Like, I get that it's toxic for society to communicate that you can only be pretty if you're blonde and white, but I don't think making the cover girl blonde and white in it itself is problematic. Maybe they could've included multiple, diverse women on the cover? I don't know the answer. I guess sometimes I just feel like I'm a bad feminist... It's feeding into the idea that the ideal, "normal" image of a women is blonde, white, and pretty (especially when coupled with that awful description, lol.) It's part of a wider problem with the portrayal of women in the media in general. And part of tackling this is using diversity when you can, but if no one bothers then it goes unchallenged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUBBYBUB Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I think maybe the cover could be inspired by Mikes wife and or daughter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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