WhiteTim Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 People say they ignored the trilogy songs on the trilogy tour but they didn’t in the way they do their shows every tour they perform 6-7 songs from whatever album they’re touring and since Mike told the BBC interviewer that they were treating the trilogy as one album and not three and they typically played 6-7 songs from the trilogy for that tour so they kept to the normal show they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ross_19 said: Having seen several bands who are just like statues and literally say nothing to interact with the audience - cough cough blink and FOB - I will never tire of those things. I’m totally with the rest of your comment but I’ve seen both those bands live and didn’t get that at all. Blink in particular were super chatty and funny. Green Day will always be the best for live shows but I just wanted to address this bit because I had the opposite experience with them in terms of audience interaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, neverdone2000 said: Ok so I’ll clarify. A lot of longtime fans who have seen multiple shows are tired of the KFAD/Jump montage and the back and forth during Hitchin a Ride. Also Billie needs to do about 1/3 of the hey-ohs he did during RevRad. As far as live song choices I have less of an opinion because that doesn’t bother me as much. That’s just my opinion and others wish they would bring a fresher set list. Others are fine with sticking with the old formula on all of the above. Fans at their first show are probably fine with all of it. Hope that makes it clearer. I think we all forget that the band also has to agree about what they want to do with their show. I've played my fair share of shows with my old band and like Billie Joe I am somewhat of an outspoken person and love to engage with the audience whether it's before or after the show and/or during the show. One night we were playing to quite a large audience and I was around socializing with a lot of the people before the show and there was a spontaneous moment where we went above and beyond the usual for fan engagement during our set. The show was awesome, the audience was responsive and we got a good review online. My bandmate was extremely angry with me and thought I went overboard. I heard him out and realized that ideally yes that could have been another song played but I was still adamant about engagement with fans and making them a part of the night. We reworked the show in a way that worked both for the entire band and for the audience. The next show we did some little quick scenes before each song that were a cross between the NOFX on stage joking sessions and the Green Day woodstock 94 comments between songs. Another show we'd make sarcastic jokes about ourselves and our songs before each song and we'd do some fan engagement while playing. I think as a band they need to find the healthy balance that works for them and the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_19 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 52 minutes ago, DeJennsitized said: I’m totally with the rest of your comment but I’ve seen both those bands live and didn’t get that at all. Blink in particular were super chatty and funny. Green Day will always be the best for live shows but I just wanted to address this bit because I had the opposite experience with them in terms of audience interaction I'm glad for you that that was the case, but I think there will be more people who had an experience similar to mine with those bands. I mean one of the general criticisms of blink is that they aren't that good live with Tom or Matt. Don't get me wrong I did enjoy seeing blink, but I see where the criticism comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Part of me thinks that now that they feel like they've perfected their set, it's time to burn it all down and start totally fresh. Seems like a Green Day thing to do idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insane Ginny Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Yeah bring some Brutal Love to the mix!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I'm fine with them having mainly their hits with some new songs in their setlist. But I'd really like to see some deep cuts get played live. Not every show has to be different but just seeing some 2019/2020 performances of some of the tracks from 21st CB, Nimrod, Warning or Insomniac that got little to no live performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, Clockwise said: Part of me thinks that now that they feel like they've perfected their set, it's time to burn it all down and start totally fresh. Seems like a Green Day thing to do idk. You've put me in that weird place where I agree and disagree haha I think that the band is most likely aware that die hard fans like us may want something extra out of the next set of shows and even they themselves may be tired of playing specific songs every night. However, some of these antics they've continued on through the years go as far back as Nimrod. A large majority of it can be referenced back to 01 and 02. I even read a review on Green Day's 2005 Molson Park show in Barrie and one person was saying the show was somewhat canned and wasn't spontaneous enough for him. I mean shame on him for taking a great tour and show for granted but I see merit in the comment. 22 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I'm fine with them having mainly their hits with some new songs in their setlist. But I'd really like to see some deep cuts get played live. Not every show has to be different but just seeing some 2019/2020 performances of some of the tracks from 21st CB, Nimrod, Warning or Insomniac that got little to no live performances Green Day is a band that's sold over 85 million records worldwide. Unfortunately, as much as we may be tired of the popular singles it's a must play for them. If they chose to do a set of 30 songs where a small % were hits they'd get chewed up by reviewers and the large percentage of new fans and casual listeners that sit in a large percentage of their seats throughout the tour. That doesn't mean they can't rework some of the covers and KFAD gimmick to throw in something extra for the die hard fans. I'd also like to put focus on the fact Working Class Hero actually cracked the Billboard Hot 100 and it's a song that they have never included in their set on any tours. I think this would be something new for the set and it would get a positive response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SnaggletoothRecords said: Green Day is a band that's sold over 85 million records worldwide. Unfortunately, as much as we may be tired of the popular singles it's a must play for them. If they chose to do a set of 30 songs where a small % were hits they'd get chewed up by reviewers and the large percentage of new fans and casual listeners that sit in a large percentage of their seats throughout the tour. That doesn't mean they can't rework some of the covers and KFAD gimmick to throw in something extra for the die hard fans. Maybe you missed the first sentence of my post Quote I'm fine with them having mainly their hits with some new songs in their setlist. I don't think a "small %" of the setlist should be hits because most of the audience wants to hear their biggest singles live but I'd like to see at least a few deep cuts played live every now and then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Some borderline “hits” that are overplayed and should be switched out: She, When I Come Around, Letterbomb, Jesus of Suburbia, Know Your Enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Some borderline “hits” that are overplayed and should be switched out: She, When I Come Around, Letterbomb, Jesus of Suburbia, Know Your Enemy Oh my god I can't wait for KYE to be gone. Never really liked that song, it's okay live but doesn't deserve to be their opening song and definitely didn't deserve to stay on their setlist for so many years. Jesus of Suburbia and Letterbomb should stay on the setlist forever though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too domb to die Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I always go to see them in the hope of them throwing in a curveball. Tried and tested is cool, as long as there is one surprise per set. Like they did when they threw in 'stuart and the ave', private ale, 409 in your Coffeemaker, Brat, Armitage Shanks and J.A.R, on the first leg of the RevRad tour. They also played '86, Stuck with me, Geek stink breath, FOD and Coming clean at the end of the last leg of the tour in South America. Also, why didn't they play ' Say Goodbye'? that would have been an amazing live song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I think KYE is a good live song. But the fact that THAT'S the song from 21CB they choose to play live? Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I don't even really have a dog in this fight because I've been lucky enough to pretty much see every Green Day rarity I could have ever hoped for over the years. I've for real been incredibly lucky and have gotten my mind blown by them many times over. All I really want is for them to keep doing whatever is the most fun for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Some borderline “hits” that are overplayed and should be switched out: She, When I Come Around, Letterbomb, Jesus of Suburbia, Know Your Enemy Other than WICA, these are the exact songs I'd get rid of in the setlist. They're never allowed to get rid of KFAD or HAR though. Saw them three times 2016/2017; never got tired of those and still watch videos of these songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I think KYE is a good live song. But the fact that THAT'S the song from 21CB they choose to play live? Really?? I’d switch it out for Murder City any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: I’d switch it out for Murder City any day. Or the title track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Hermione said: I don't think there's anything wrong with doing their shows in a structured way sticking to a setlist etc and keeping in popular/traditional songs. Don't know why they'd suddenly deserve criticism for it now when that's always been their style either. There's more than one way to do shows than just changing the setlist a lot, might not be their preferred way and if they did that it might have negative effects on other aspects of the show. I don't want to stray too much from the main topic of this thread and am admittedly slightly late to join the discussion, but I felt the urge to comment on the live-set nonetheless, as it is a topic that has always interested me a lot. It might also give us a break from the escalating speculation. I don't think this discussion has to be as polarized as it is and some of the criticisms of the setlist aren't mutually exclusive with your points/arguments. My main issue with their setlists isn't that they have a core structure, or that they play a lot of "standard hits" at every show. The days of Green Day being a band simply playing random songs in succession are long gone and over the years (and certainly since AI) their concerts have become a spectacle, rather than just a concert. And to be fair, that is how most fans (including me) prefer it. I love the explosions and different backdrops and how the show feels continuous and flows on harmoniously. I also went to two RevRad gigs and enjoyed every second of it. In fact, I enjoyed the second show more than the first, because they all seemed better rehearsed, more energetic and happier (see the GreenField Festival thread for my detailed report haha). I also would have given anything to have attended an AI or 21CB gig, as those arguably were even greater / more bombastic spectacles, but despite already being a fan at the time, I sadly never got the chance. So, my main issue isn't that, it's that on the RevRad tour the setlist changed so little at times, that there were streaks of concerts with not a single song added or taken away or played in a different order for weeks. That, while the overall structure was the same, wasn't ever the case on either the 99 revolutions tour or during the 21CB tour. Their club shows, while more adventurous than the arena gigs, also seemed more low key than previously. From my perspective, they wouldn't have to do much to fully please the few picky long-term fans (like me) that they have, whilst also keeping everyone else happy: Just think of a better opening song (not KYE, which unlike some, I really really like as a live song, but it is undeniably better suited as second or third song in the set and could also easily be traded for another banger on 21CB). Either get rid of KFAD or at least mix up the covers from time to time Add the odd deep cut towards the end from show to show. Just one or two songs. Like they did on the 21CB tour. That wouldn't be anything wild or special. And it would be absolutely nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDFan2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Too domb to die said: I always go to see them in the hope of them throwing in a curveball. Tried and tested is cool, as long as there is one surprise per set. Like they did when they threw in 'stuart and the ave', private ale, 409 in your Coffeemaker, Brat, Armitage Shanks and J.A.R, on the first leg of the RevRad tour. They also played '86, Stuck with me, Geek stink breath, FOD and Coming clean at the end of the last leg of the tour in South America. Also, why didn't they play ' Say Goodbye'? that would have been an amazing live song. I think they played Say Goodbye at one of the RevRad secret shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 They played part of Say Goodbye during the bridge of Holiday on the Howard Stern show (2:27) Idk if they played the entire track at any point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Say Goodbye, Outlaws and Bouncing Off The Wall wasn't played in any show so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Some borderline “hits” that are overplayed and should be switched out: She, When I Come Around, Letterbomb, Jesus of Suburbia, Know Your Enemy I wouldn't remove Jesus of Suburbia but I agree about She and Know Your Enemy. I have a personal soft spot for When I Come Around and it may just be because at the time I started seeing Green Day live it wasn't on the setlist but it has been a main part of it now for two tours. Queen always played Bohemian Rhapsody on every tour and Jesus of Suburbia is that for Green Day. 2 hours ago, Nightlife said: Oh my god I can't wait for KYE to be gone. Never really liked that song, it's okay live but doesn't deserve to be their opening song and definitely didn't deserve to stay on their setlist for so many years. Jesus of Suburbia and Letterbomb should stay on the setlist forever though. So this is such a die hard fan opinion so I love this! I didn't mind KYE on the trilogy's tour but seeing it again on Rev Rad that was unnecessary. Someone above said swap in Murder City. I'm 100% for that! I wouldn't mind seeing East Jesus Nowhere again. I FUCKING MISS 21ST CENTURY BREAKDOWN!!! It was a good song to hear live. Why did they ever stop playing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, SnaggletoothRecords said: I FUCKING MISS 21ST CENTURY BREAKDOWN!!! It was a good song to hear live. Why did they ever stop playing that? Presumably because they thought it was best suited as an opening track and didn't want to repeat what they had already done on the 21CB tour. That being said, why they ended up picking KYE instead I don't know, because 21CB is undoubtably a much much much better opener (and song). Also, I agree they absolutely need to play this one again, it's just such a great song and doesn't deserve to be discarded like that simply because it once happened to be an opener. I mean: so what, so was American Idiot. However, it's not the only great underplayed 21CB song that comes to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, MillenniumFan said: Presumably because they thought it was best suited as an opening track and didn't want to repeat what they had already done on the 21CB tour. That being said, why they ended up picking KYE instead I don't know, because 21CB is undoubtably a much much much better opener (and song). Also, I agree they absolutely need to play this one again, it's just such a great song and doesn't deserve to be discarded like that. However, it's not the only great underplayed 21CB song that comes to mind... I'd like to have them compose a new song that would fit the opening to the new tour the way 21cb fit as the opener on it's tour. If Green Day had a 15 minute intermission in their set I think 21cb would be a cool opener to set #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I feel like 21CB is a classic Green Day song. It's a shame it never got the success that other hit singles did like BOBD, American Idiot or 21 Guns. It really should be part of the setlist. I think it should've been the lead single for 21CB too. KYE is such a basic song on such a creative album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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