walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: The thread is why GDC should've stayed down. Spoiler that and keeping the discord active since i added a fuckload of channels to it 8 hours ago, solongfromthestars said: For the record, it's not even the collab or anything to do with Billie I give a shit about at this point. It's the fact it's enabled a discussion where racism - a real, harmful issue that is some people's daily existence - is being dismissed as a "differing opinion" that should be "respected." Or even that calling racism out is comparable to or worse than racism itself. Read Savannah's posts before you tell me this isn't happening. Racism is not an opinion. Most British employers will fire workers for being racist if a person of colour reports it. If a colleague calls me a terrorist or threatens to harm me I will not ignore it because I have to work with them. Because, let me say it again - it's not an opinion. It directly harms me. This isn't about Morrissey or Billie. It's about racism as a whole being dismissed. People of colour should not have to read this on a Green Day forum of all places. As for Billie's opinion on our posts, I can't believe that's even been brought up? People are voicing their thoughts for themselves, not for him to read. I may love his music, but a white man's opinion on how I feel about racism is completely irrelevant to me. Just wanted to say this was written amazingly and i fully support it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 The subject of this thread is Billie collaborating with Morrissey on the song, not only the song itself, so it's perfectly reasonable for the subject of Billie working with him to be discussed in all aspects including in relation to his political views/offensive comments. People doing that are not "off topic". Yes it's ok to not think Billie's done something wrong or have differing views on Morrissey or prefer to look at the music totally separately etc but that doesn't mean the people who do take issue with it can't disagree, voice their concerns/opinions or shouldn't be posting about it. You can have a different opinion about Morrissey's comments, doesn't mean you can tell other people how to feel about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Seriously why make it a big deal that he collabs with morrissey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Not as cool as Tré Cool said: Seriously why make it a big deal that he collabs with morrissey The past 22 pages would explain why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 10 hours ago, solongfromthestars said: People of colour should not have to read this on a Green Day forum of all places. Correction, nobody should have to read this on here period, no matter if you're a POC or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I feel like there's an amalgam between "racism is an opinion" and "whether Morrissey is racist or not is an opinion"... Just because some people think Morrissey is not racist doesn't mean we consider racism as an opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Not as cool as Tré Cool said: Correction, nobody should have to read this on here period, no matter if you're a POC or not. OK, a short summary then if you want one: Morrissey has said racist things and openly supported an open racist, and Billie working with someone like that despite being anti-racism and ignoring people who call him out is hypocritical. A couple of people think somehow it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I respect the opinion that Billie is hypocritical, I don't think so, and I just hope every opinion is respected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mato Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Meanwhile.. who's this Billie Joel guy singing background vocals? 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki. Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I can't believe they put Billie Joel even in the video title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Oh my god . This is a true PR disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herewegoagain Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I told you! The whole problem with Morrissey is that he’s a fucking IDIOT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 hours ago, neverdone2000 said: I told you! The whole problem with Morrissey is that he’s a fucking IDIOT!! That's one thing everyone can agree on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Hermione said: Oh my god . This is a true PR disaster No this is truly brilliant. Long live billyjoelarmstrong. 8 hours ago, neverdone2000 said: I told you! The whole problem with Morrissey is that he’s a fucking IDIOT!! He lost me when he only did one button up on his shirt😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 They corrected it, booo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Billy Joel never5get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savannah89 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 There is an interview with Corbett Redford, where they called BJA Billie Joe Alexander. The interviewer had no clue what she did. Look at 6:21 Billie Joe Alexander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 9:20 PM, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said: Billie Joel Armstrong Collaborate with a racist and get your name spelt wrong! Doesn't even mention Lydia Night either! He deleted the tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Rip piano man billie joel armstrong April 8 2019-April 12 2019 rest in rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herewegoagain Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Another day, another dead Billie Joe(l) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The typo was on purpose, it distracted everyone from another more controversial topic. Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alan86 said: The typo was on purpose, it distracted everyone from another, more controversial topic. Genius. Then they should have done that back when the project was first announced 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Then they should have done that back when the project was first announced 😜 Lessons have been learned 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckez Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Can anyone actually hear Lydia in the song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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