Christian's Inferno! Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: I’m sad so many people list it as their least favorite (for me it would be Soul Surrender) WHAT! Soul Surrender is the best. Why isn't this track getting any attention from anybody!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: WHAT! Soul Surrender is the best. Why isn't this track getting any attention from anybody!?!? Soul Surrender is great, it reminds me of Hearts Collide. Both of them make me wanna drive around with the windows down in the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 This thread has really gotten interesting and great to read, thanks everyone! On 01/05/2018 at 10:31 PM, LaughingClock said: Happiness: Happiness has been my fave from the first time I've heard it. On 01/05/2018 at 10:31 PM, LaughingClock said: How lonely is "you're lonely"? How lonely is "you're lonely"? How alone is your restlessness? First the idea of asking to metric your level of lonely by just asking "how lonely is your lonely" is a pretty cool way to ask "how lonely are you" to anyone. I hadn't heard it that way until someone suggested that spelling a few weeks ago, it seems interesting to me, but what I've understood from first listening is "how lonely is your loneli- , how lonely is your loneli- (as if Billie was going to say loneliness, but in fact he says:) how lonely is your restlessness". And to me, the meaning would be to say that restlessness is lonely. You're asking yourself ho lonely you are, but do you realize that restlessness of yours (in the will not to be lonely anymore) is lonely n itself? Like, you're restless in relation to others, you feel lonely so you can do lots of efforts, and questioning yourself, to be accepted while staying true to yourself, and that's restless, and lonely. Restlessness is actually a consequence, and form of loneliness, even though (ironically) you're restless because you can't take anymore that feeling of being lonely. That's how these lyrics speak to me anyways... I think I feel something special for all the songs in which there are some "restless"... Restless Heart Syndrome, Still Breathing... and now Happiness lol On 01/05/2018 at 10:31 PM, LaughingClock said: "How unhappy is your happiness" is saying literally everyone always has some frustration, stress, anger, confusion in them. The question is how unhappy is your happiness? Meaning if your happy, you still have some unhappiness in there but how much? Not a normal way to quantify happiness but an interesting way of saying it. Caught me as interesting and they say happiness comes in moments and it's true. So when you are happy, how much unhappiness is laying below? It can also suggest (in a twisted way) don't wait that all the unhappiness go away to be happy. Because at some point when you'll be able to say "I'm happy" (got given to everybody) there will still be this unhappiness. For some things that you want to make better (personal or not exclusively personal stuff) although it more likely won't happen. So you can still speak of your happiness for the good you'e come to and the unhappiness for all the rest. And yes the 2 come together. Not the same unhappiness as when you can't even, at the same time, speak of happiness for yourself. On 01/05/2018 at 10:31 PM, LaughingClock said: And since I know most people here would love the opportunity, I am saying, give it a shot. He is a fascinating man to speak to and on the other hand, I was also saying IF you have the opportunity to, why not try and make it a nice conversation that intrigues him and makes him want to speak to you. He WILL speak about songs with fans. I've seen it plenty of times. I am not overestimating, I am just saying there is more of a chance for the "average concert-goer". For example, there was that one idiot at the Costa Mesa show I think that was yelling "Drop your ego" after an incredible rendition of Stay The Night and Billie looked like WTF?! and the old Billie would have said something like "watch what my ego can do, throw this fucker out", or even jump in the crowd and punch him but the new Billie smiled at him and went into the next song. So even on stage there are literal chances to be heard. I would love to speak to Billie for sure, if there are not too many people trying to do that at the same time, might feel a bit oppressing (for me, lol)! I could easily have a cardiac arrest even if Billie says "hi" to me but I'll give it a try for sure (good way to die, falling in Billie's arms just after he looks at me lol). I'll have an occasion since I'm going to the Brooklyn gig on June 1st. Does anyone know if a friend of mine, who lives in France and whom I met at a GD gig here, and am inviting to go with me to see the Longshot in New York (she wants as much as me), might be able to buy a ticket at the door? I went on the place's website but didn't find that info... And I don't want to go in without her, especially if we make the trip together. As for the "idiot at the Costa Mesa" show you're speaking of, I saw it in the video @Admiral_Needa posted of it and I don't think he was saying to Billie himself "lose your ego", he was saying that in a general way after Billie said "we Americans we are all stuck inside our chests" and encouraging people to sing and loosen up. That guy was certainly saying "loose your ego in that spirit". Billie was looking at him very kindly and didn't seem -to my eyes- like "WTF", he was curious and gave the guy genuine attention, even inviting him "to come up and tell everyone yourself". I have no idea why the guy didn't come up though, it was probably too intimidating! But I would just have come up and hug Billie before fainting, I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 For me, the demos really were a great companion for the album. They were great, but after listening to them for a bit I put the album back in and enjoyed it all the more! I love the whole album, but my least favorites "Turn me Loose" and that ole Ozzy cover, they are really growing on me. Particularly "Loose". I want to rank each song from the album from best to worst, but man it's going to be tough. I could do without the cover, but the songs....it's pretty much a tie. "Body Bag" might be one that I skip more than the others but I rock out to it a lot too! 1. The Last Time 2. Love is for Losers 3. Cult Hero 4. Happiness 5. Chasing a Ghost 6. Soul Surrender 7. Turn me Loose 8. Kill Your Friends 9. Taxi Driver 10. Body Bag 11. Goodbye to Romance That's my ranking as of this moment. The top six change every few seconds, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Kuromignonne said: This thread has really gotten interesting and great to read, thanks everyone! Happiness has been my fave from the first time I've heard it. I hadn't heard it that way until someone suggested that spelling a few weeks ago, it seems interesting to me, but what I've understood from first listening is "how lonely is your loneli- , how lonely is your loneli- (as if Billie was going to say loneliness, but in fact he says:) how lonely is your restlessness". And to me, the meaning would be to say that restlessness is lonely. You're asking yourself ho lonely you are, but do you realize that restlessness of yours (in the will not to be lonely anymore) is lonely n itself? Like, you're restless in relation to others, you feel lonely so you can do lots of efforts, and questioning yourself, to be accepted while staying true to yourself, and that's restless, and lonely. Restlessness is actually a consequence, and form of loneliness, even though (ironically) you're restless because you can't take anymore that feeling of being lonely. That's how these lyrics speak to me anyways... I think I feel something special for all the songs in which there are some "restless"... Restless Heart Syndrome, Still Breathing... and now Happiness lol It can also suggest (in a twisted way) don't wait that all the unhappiness go away to be happy. Because at some point when you'll be able to say "I'm happy" (got given to everybody) there will still be this unhappiness. For some things that you want to make better (personal or not exclusively personal stuff) although it more likely won't happen. So you can still speak of your happiness for the good you'e come to and the unhappiness for all the rest. And yes the 2 come together. Not the same unhappiness as when you can't even, at the same time, speak of happiness for yourself. I would love to speak to Billie for sure, if there are not too many people trying to do that at the same time, might feel a bit oppressing (for me, lol)! I could easily have a cardiac arrest even if Billie says "hi" to me but I'll give it a try for sure (good way to die, falling in Billie's arms just after he looks at me lol). I'll have an occasion since I'm going to the Brooklyn gig on June 1st. Does anyone know if a friend of mine, who lives in France and whom I met at a GD gig here, and am inviting to go with me to see the Longshot in New York (she wants as much as me), might be able to buy a ticket at the door? I went on the place's website but didn't find that info... And I don't want to go in without her, especially if we make the trip together. As for the "idiot at the Costa Mesa" show you're speaking of, I saw it in the video @Admiral_Needa posted of it and I don't think he was saying to Billie himself "lose your ego", he was saying that in a general way after Billie said "we Americans we are all stuck inside our chests" and encouraging people to sing and loosen up. That guy was certainly saying "loose your ego in that spirit". Billie was looking at him very kindly and didn't seem -to my eyes- like "WTF", he was curious and gave the guy genuine attention, even inviting him "to come up and tell everyone yourself". I have no idea why the guy didn't come up though, it was probably too intimidating! But I would just have come up and hug Billie before fainting, I don't know... Good post but a couple things. I accidentally did a "you're and not your on 'how lonely is your loneliness" but the idea of using "you're" to literally make it a separate sentence is interesting but not what I think he was going. Just a typo but very interesting. Even coming up with different interpretations on typos. LOL. Ok, so now that I'm sober, I can explain myself a little better. First, let me get this out of the way before I forget. The guy at the Mesa show was saying "Lose your ego" and was just some drunk guy trying to be funny or something. There are morons at every show regardless of how small. Billie for a second entertained the idea of dealing with a heckler (not something he's used to because one man can't usually be heard during breaks and interludes but that guy wanted his 2 mins of "fame" and yelled out some drunk dumb shit and Billie was DEFINITELY a little taken aback and not sure how to react. He actually handled it quite well I think from the video. Ive been to one show but I got sick and was in Mesa but didn't go to the show. I saw it on the video and I also heard about it from friends that were right there and the dude was straight up heckling. And Billie doesn't like ego and you could almost see his brain working when he said "yeah, I like that, why don't you come up here and tell everyone" which is a common reaction for hecklers (I also promote in the comedy world and I know a heckler when I hear one. Then Billie realized in a nanosecond that he needed to drown it out and went directly into the next song ruining a very awesome moment between that crowd and Billie. Watch the whole vid. And Billie repeats "Loose your ego? I like it" but then he realized he was being insulted and instead of throwing him out or fucking with him, played nice and I can dig that but that guy should fucking get in therapy. As for "How happy is your unhappiness" is beautiful. The song is called happiness but that way of measuring your happiness by how "unhappy is your happiness" or how unhappy when your unhappy is decidedly morbid for a song called Happiness but that is a sort of recurring theme in this album. Hidden melancholy lyrics in songs named Happiness. The STN is fucking amazing and Billie was loving the crowd, and its a shame, period. As for tickets at the door in NY, you might be able to score your way in but I wouldn't tell someone from France to fly across the pond on that hope without procuring a ticket. Good luck! Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 This is great — three shows edited together with one seamless audio: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I'm commenting in your post directly because I'm too lazy to cut in in 3 again: 6 hours ago, LaughingClock said: Good post but a couple things. thanks, but I don't take a good or bad on my posts coming from anyone. I'd rather want to know if what I post can speak to others in some way, not get any judgment good or bad. (Not saying that in a pissed off way at all) Ok, so now that I'm sober, I can explain myself a little better. I didn't think you were drunk I agree with this you said below: First, let me get this out of the way before I forget. The guy at the Mesa show was saying "Lose your ego" and was just some drunk guy trying to be funny or something. There are morons at every show regardless of how small. Billie for a second entertained the idea of dealing with a heckler (not something he's used to because one man can't usually be heard during breaks and interludes but that guy wanted his 2 mins of "fame" and yelled out some drunk dumb shit and Billie was DEFINITELY a little taken aback and not sure how to react. He actually handled it quite well I think from the video. Ive been to one show but I got sick and was in Mesa but didn't go to the show. I saw it on the video and I also heard about it from friends that were right there and the dude was straight up heckling. And Billie doesn't like ego can I ask, what do you mean by that? I don't get it and you could almost see his brain working when he said "yeah, I like that, why don't you come up here and tell everyone" which is a common reaction for hecklers (I also promote in the comedy world and I know a heckler when I hear one. Then Billie realized in a nanosecond that he needed to drown it out and went directly into the next song ruining a very awesome moment between that crowd and Billie. Watch the whole vid. Yeah I had already watched it in full, I just have a slightly different feeling. And Billie repeats "Loose your ego? I like it" but then he realized he was being insulted and instead of throwing him out or fucking with him, played nice and I can dig that but that guy should fucking get in therapy. You know what I genuinely think when reading your analysis of that scene? I think that if you're right, Billie would be kinda tyrannic. Possibly throwing a guy out because that guy said "loose your ego", in the same spirit as what Billie was just saying "let's sing and get it out of your system, don't give a fuck" in short? I agree Billie was maybe a bit taken aback but I wouldn't say in an negative way. The guy may have been drunk, that doesn't mean he was a heckler. I don't think so. I don't care how much you've seen, you or anyone can't judge a guy so mercilessly so easily. What I'm certain of is it wasn't being insulting at all. He was just cheering up with Billie's encouragement to people to let themselves go, and to him a another way to say it was "lose your ego". Meaning "everyone, lose your ego" and not "Billie, lose your ego, you're giving you too much importance" it was not that at all. And I'm quite sure Billie got it because he asked the guy right away "why don't you come up and tell them?" "tell them", so he got the guy was addressing the crowd and people in general. Okay, now reading what you say I think you suggest maybe Billie heard the guy was saying "Billie, lose your ego" and that's why he said to the guy to come up and speak to people in his place. I didn't feel that way watching the video on my own and don't think Billie understood that. But in any case, if he ever believed that for a second (for him it all just happened very quickly, as you say his brain must've been working while he was reacting) he was certainly misinterpreting. I think he was really trying to get into that sudden exchange and handing the baton over to this guy by proposing him to come up for a second was maybe a way to turn the situation around and maybe a way open the exchange and see what would happen. I believe he would have totally let the guy come up if he chose to. As for tickets at the door in NY, you might be able to score your way in but I wouldn't tell someone from France to fly across the pond on that hope without procuring a ticket. Good luck! Thanks, we will need it. Actually, I had managed to get a ticket on line, a few day before I had asked my friend to come with me and buy a ticket too but she didn't have enough savings and declined. But after I told her I got a ticket, she said she was so happy for me and wished she could have gone too. And I said "fuck it, you're coming with me" . I'm inviting her because I want so much that she can be with me. I told her we will do everything we can to get a ticket for her, she said "even if I don't get one, you're seeing Billie and maybe I'll just see him at the end when he comes out". But honestly, I won't be tranquil if I go in without her. I want us to be together, front row, look at Billie in the eyes, and scream our lungs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttohell Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 loving all these lyrics. favorite is probably chasing a ghost, reminds me a lot of the replacements song 'swinging party' in a really good way. the whole record is like loser anthem after another, its fucking great. all such downers in my opinion, but with the catchiest up-beat melodies. i wonder if billie is really as lost, sad and lonely as he makes himself out to be in so many of his songs, both in green day and in his side projects. his lyrics make him seem like the absolute epitome of a lost soul. but god damn i can relate way too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki. Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, straighttohell said: loving all these lyrics. favorite is probably chasing a ghost, reminds me a lot of the replacements song 'swinging party' in a really good way. the whole record is like loser anthem after another, its fucking great. all such downers in my opinion, but with the catchiest up-beat melodies. i wonder if billie is really as lost, sad and lonely as he makes himself out to be in so many of his songs, both in green day and in his side projects. his lyrics make him seem like the absolute epitome of a lost soul. but god damn i can relate way too much I like the comparison with Swinging Party, that's one of my favourites and I definitely get a Replacements vibe from some of the Longshot songs. As for Billie, I think it has to come from a real place, a state of mind he actually experienced - if it didn't, the songwriting wouldn't be so damn good and so relatable as you say. I believe we really get a glimpse of how he's feeling or has felt in the past through the lyrics. But from what we can see now as outsiders, he looks the opposite of lost, sad and lonely and seems to be enjoying himself so much playing these shows, which is so great to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 hours ago, straighttohell said: loving all these lyrics. favorite is probably chasing a ghost, reminds me a lot of the replacements song 'swinging party' in a really good way. the whole record is like loser anthem after another, its fucking great. all such downers in my opinion, but with the catchiest up-beat melodies. i wonder if billie is really as lost, sad and lonely as he makes himself out to be in so many of his songs, both in green day and in his side projects. his lyrics make him seem like the absolute epitome of a lost soul. but god damn i can relate way too much I’m sure he does feel that way, like we all can, but not all the time. Those are just some of the best emotions to write about and he’s so good at getting at his own feelings and putting them into words. And it’s great therapy 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Kuromignonne said: I'm commenting in your post directly because I'm too lazy to cut in in 3 again: I thought your post was great. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion but I just think what I saw is what I said. As to the rest that you asked, I promise to answer later. Don’t have the time at the moment. 13 hours ago, Too Dumb to Die(s) said: For me, the demos really were a great companion for the album. They were great, but after listening to them for a bit I put the album back in and enjoyed it all the more! I love the whole album, but my least favorites "Turn me Loose" and that ole Ozzy cover, they are really growing on me. Particularly "Loose". I want to rank each song from the album from best to worst, but man it's going to be tough. I could do without the cover, but the songs....it's pretty much a tie. "Body Bag" might be one that I skip more than the others but I rock out to it a lot too! 1. The Last Time 2. Love is for Losers 3. Cult Hero 4. Happiness 5. Chasing a Ghost 6. Soul Surrender 7. Turn me Loose 8. Kill Your Friends 9. Taxi Driver 10. Body Bag 11. Goodbye to Romance That's my ranking as of this moment. The top six change every few seconds, but you get the idea. Agreed on TML. I absolutely just love that song! And not many I’ve heard saying. It truly has the most catchy and one of the best choruses of all time. Hyperbole? Maybe but I feel that at this moment. I am truly loving this album too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttohell Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Marki. said: I like the comparison with Swinging Party, that's one of my favourites and I definitely get a Replacements vibe from some of the Longshot songs. As for Billie, I think it has to come from a real place, a state of mind he actually experienced - if it didn't, the songwriting wouldn't be so damn good and so relatable as you say. I believe we really get a glimpse of how he's feeling or has felt in the past through the lyrics. But from what we can see now as outsiders, he looks the opposite of lost, sad and lonely and seems to be enjoying himself so much playing these shows, which is so great to see 5 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: I’m sure he does feel that way, like we all can, but not all the time. Those are just some of the best emotions to write about and he’s so good at getting at his own feelings and putting them into words. And it’s great therapy 😉 well said! i hear the vibe of "swinging party" in "kill your friends" a little bit too. the "heavens making rent, theres a vacancy for me and all my friends" and "everyones depressed, party in the morgue tonight" verse kind of reminds me of "somewhere theres a party, here its never ending can't remember when it started, there'll be plenty enough room in jail". fucking love both songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleteduser7593 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Ok, ''Happiness'' is my favourite for now. It was ''Cult Hero'' just a few hours ago, Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Can someone help me out with the bridge of Happiness? Is it... Oh lonely nights, too dumb to cry As the stars go down, Safety pins, pajama tins, Seasons of my murder ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouty bitch Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Can someone help me out with the bridge of Happiness? Is it... Oh lonely nights, too dumb to cry As the stars go down, Safety pins, pajama tins, Seasons of my murder ??? I'm hearing the first part the same as you, then: Safety pins and purge all my sins Seasons of my burning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said: I'm hearing the first part the same as you, then: Safety pins and purge all my sins Seasons of my burning Maybe this belongs in the misheard lyrics thread 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Marki. said: As for Billie, I think it has to come from a real place, a state of mind he actually experienced - if it didn't, the songwriting wouldn't be so damn good and so relatable as you say. I believe we really get a glimpse of how he's feeling or has felt in the past through the lyrics. But from what we can see now as outsiders, he looks the opposite of lost, sad and lonely and seems to be enjoying himself so much playing these shows, which is so great to see I was saying earlier that Billie has NEVER in any song he’s ever written been more vulnerable than he is in CAG. Former drug addict depicting the desire to do drugs again but then not is not something that a less mature Billie would have done. Think of how uncomfortable he was talking about his father even after finally releasing WMUWSE on AI. Well RevRad was the first album where he wrote an album with his belly showing and CAG could be on a sequel to RevRad album. Most of the song is talking about him literally imaging the drugs he wants to do and even how and on what night. Now people that have quit drugs don’t hate all the times they had. For Billie we know his wild side he calls St Jimmy. It’s not just a fictional character, it’s autobiagrapical so when he says goodbye to “him” but it was fun, is basically saying the drugs and good times were fun but that was a “long long time ago”. When I get home, I’m gonna lyrically analyze that song and put it on this post but I have to drive right. He also talks about (up for interpretation) becuse it could mean anything but he says “she” and she is Cobra I’m pretty certain. The run that led to his breakdown was with her and ended at iHeart and I think he finally saw when the fog was lifted who was good and who was using and abusing him. I don’t know why there is so much protection and sticking up for her around here. She was a fucking train wreck. I’ll finish this later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, LaughingClock said: I was saying earlier that Billie has NEVER in any song he’s ever written been more vulnerable than he is in CAG. Former drug addict depicting the desire to do drugs again but then not is not something that a less mature Billie would have done. Think of how uncomfortable he was talking about his father even after finally releasing WMUWSE on AI. Well RevRad was the first album where he wrote an album with his belly showing and CAG could be on a sequel to RevRad album. Most of the song is talking about him literally imaging the drugs he wants to do and even how and on what night. Now people that have quit drugs don’t hate all the times they had. For Billie we know his wild side he calls St Jimmy. It’s not just a fictional character, it’s autobiagrapical so when he says goodbye to “him” but it was fun, is basically saying the drugs and good times were fun but that was a “long long time ago”. When I get home, I’m gonna lyrically analyze that song and put it on this post but I have to drive right. He also talks about (up for interpretation) becuse it could mean anything but he says “she” and she is Cobra I’m pretty certain. The run that led to his breakdown was with her and ended at iHeart and I think he finally saw when the fog was lifted who was good and who was using and abusing him. I don’t know why there is so much protection and sticking up for her around here. She was a fucking train wreck. I’ll finish this later. I look forward to your analysis of the song, but other than references in a few trilogy songs there’s not a lot of info on what he and Cobra did together and when. Billie describes the events of August and September 2012 leading up to iHeart in the Rolling Stone interview and Lady Cobra is never mentioned. So other than being one of many people he partied with from 2010-2012, how do you know she was solely and directly implicated in the run leading up to his breakdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said: Can someone help me out with the bridge of Happiness? Is it... Oh lonely nights, too dumb to cry As the stars go down, Safety pins, pajama tins, Seasons of my murder ??? Lonely nights, too dumb to cry as the stars go down Safety pins and purge all my sins Seasons of my burden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said: I'm hearing the first part the same as you, then: Safety pins and purge all my sins Seasons of my burning That's what I hear too. Edit- I think @Clockwise is correct. Burden makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Clockwise said: Lonely nights, too dumb to cry as the stars go down Safety pins and purge all my sins Seasons of my burden Cool. Now what does it mean? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttohell Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said: Cool. Now what does it mean? 🤔 lonely nights, too dumb to cry, as the stars go down - time is passing with the rising and falling of stars, he's feeling lonely, but too helpless to cry or make a scene about it. the whole "too dumb to cry" or "too dumb to die" thing, i also always thought was a play on "too tough to die" by the ramones... basically like the motto of a punk rocker. they might be tough, or they might be dumb, but they aint giving up the good fight. safety pins, purge all my sins, seasons of my burden - safety pins of course are a big part of punk culture and iconography. maybe he's saying punk rock "purged his sins" or saved his life. when he says his "sins", he could be talking about anything. his substance abuse issues, maybe guilt he has about something that we don't even know about, but just guilt none the less. so like, he's a guy who has struggled and has definitely had his share of demons and sins that have plagued him, but he's been able to purge himself of them through punk rock music. maybe his "burden" was drugs, or alcohol, or maybe his burden is the weight he carries around on himself just feeling like a lost soul. not to get too psychologist on this but i wouldn't be surprised if losing a father at such a young age would make someone feel eternally lost, or disillusioned. wouldn't be surprised if a ton of his lyrics come from that. so yeah. to me, he's kind of in a lonely state, reflecting on years of his life, past struggles and fuck ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: pajama tins I’m sorry, I laughed way too hard at this... That’s as bad as my “I’ve got the diesel, baby” misheard lyric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: I’m sorry, I laughed way too hard at this... That’s as bad as my “I’ve got the diesel, baby” misheard lyric. LMAO that was pretty bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyroger118 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 hours ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said: I'm hearing the first part the same as you, then: Safety pins and purge all my sins Seasons of my burning I hear Seasons of my burden but its really hard to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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