emenius Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mar said: Honestly, I'm annoyed by that, too. idg why they bothered releasing an EP when the album was ready. EPs are like a teaser for new bands or new sounds to test the waters, they're not supposed to be early releases of album songs that are packaged separately to make you buy them twice! You don’t pay again for the tracks you’ve already bought - they’re downloaded into the album separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleteduser7593 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, WhiteTim said: do what now? 😂 Yes, it's Billie Joe in the mind of a cult shooter, he mentioned that in May 2018 interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, emenius said: You don’t pay again for the tracks you’ve already bought - they’re downloaded into the album separately. Not when they’re on separate releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, emenius said: You don’t pay again for the tracks you’ve already bought - they’re downloaded into the album separately. Ahh, OK, as you can see I haven't had a chance to get on iTunes to D/L it, so I was assuming ... that's why they say don't assume! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhiteTim Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mar said: Ahh, OK, as you can see I haven't had a chance to get on iTunes to D/L it, so I was assuming ... that's why they say don't assume! He’s misinformed it’s only charged once if they were apart of the same album the single is different than the album so you’ll be buying the same three tracks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, WhiteTim said: He’s misinformed it’s only charged once if they were apart of the same album the single is different than the album so you’ll be buying the same three tracks again That's what I was thinking, but I thought maybe they just added the tracks to the EP/reclassifying it as an album. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mar said: That's what I was thinking, but I thought maybe they just added the tracks to the EP/reclassifying it as an album. Damn. Just looked at iTunes guess they did cause the single is no longer listed guess I shouldn’t expect a normal pattern for The Longshot 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mar said: That's what I was thinking, but I thought maybe they just added the tracks to the EP/reclassifying it as an album. Damn. I can send you an email that may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTP39Smooth Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I really like this album! Especially The Last Time! Very Old School 60s vibe but punchier haha. I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttohell Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 such a fun album. what i hear the most after a couple listens, is billie having an absolute blast. best way i can sum up my feelings about this album is its like watching a major league batter in a home run contest knock softballs out of a park. it doesn't look challenging for them at all, they're not pushing themselves to their limit or anything, but its still a good time to watch a pro do what they do really well. and while we wait to see them rejoin their team to play some actual games, I'm just grateful for something this fun in the mean time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumDay Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, straighttohell said: such a fun album. what i hear the most after a couple listens, is billie having an absolute blast. best way i can sum up my feelings about this album is its like watching a major league batter in a home run contest knock softballs out of a park. it doesn't look challenging for them at all, they're not pushing themselves to their limit or anything, but its still a good time to watch a pro do what they do really well. and while we wait to see them rejoin their team to play some actual games, I'm just grateful for something this fun in the mean time... brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Green Day is not breaking up. They're still great friends. But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade. Sure, maybe this album lacks the musicianship of Tre and Mike, but all that is meaningless if the songs aren't good. This solo album has more energy, catchiness, and memorable musicianship than anything they've made recently. When Mike was saying things like "going for an easy A" in Cuatro regarding some of the songs in, you have to wonder what their overall mentality is about the band. Yes, Billie has always been the workaholic, driving force of Green Day, but many great bands have multiple members who contribute to writing and creativity. Mike and Tre seem to go along with whatever Billie says and maybe add some parts for their instruments. Heck, Mike's bass had been essentially edited out of the mix until RevRad, and even then it wasn't balanced. Based on this solo record, Billie could easily continue Green Day without Mike and Tre. Just hire some of the Green Day cronies to tour, and boom, new band. Honestly, if Mike and Tre listen to this album and don't feel a bit upset, that only confirms they are just along for the ride. Next GD record, they both need to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy. Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, desertrose said: Excuse me, I'm triggered. Where's the everywhere else but the USA shows? (I'm still stuck in a corner hoping for the Network and Hot Tubs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Green Day is not breaking up. They're still great friends. But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade. Sure, maybe this album lacks the musicianship of Tre and Mike, but all that is meaningless if the songs aren't good. This solo album has more energy, catchiness, and memorable musicianship than anything they've made recently. When Mike was saying things like "going for an easy A" in Cuatro regarding some of the songs in, you have to wonder what their overall mentality is about the band. Yes, Billie has always been the workaholic, driving force of Green Day, but many great bands have multiple members who contribute to writing and creativity. Mike and Tre seem to go along with whatever Billie says and maybe add some parts for their instruments. Heck, Mike's bass had been essentially edited out of the mix until RevRad, and even then it wasn't balanced. Based on this solo record, Billie could easily continue Green Day without Mike and Tre. Just hire some of the Green Day cronies to tour, and boom, new band. Honestly, if Mike and Tre listen to this album and don't feel a bit upset, that only confirms they are just along for the ride. Next GD record, they both need to shine. Literally what the fuck are you talking about my dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleteduser7593 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, ¡Jenn! said: Literally what the fuck are you talking about my dude. Weirdest discussions about the Longshot: 1. Filters. 2. ''Devil's Kind''. 3. Green Day breakup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¡Nunes! Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Green Day is not breaking up. They're still great friends. But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade. Sure, maybe this album lacks the musicianship of Tre and Mike, but all that is meaningless if the songs aren't good. This solo album has more energy, catchiness, and memorable musicianship than anything they've made recently. When Mike was saying things like "going for an easy A" in Cuatro regarding some of the songs in, you have to wonder what their overall mentality is about the band. Yes, Billie has always been the workaholic, driving force of Green Day, but many great bands have multiple members who contribute to writing and creativity. Mike and Tre seem to go along with whatever Billie says and maybe add some parts for their instruments. Heck, Mike's bass had been essentially edited out of the mix until RevRad, and even then it wasn't balanced. Based on this solo record, Billie could easily continue Green Day without Mike and Tre. Just hire some of the Green Day cronies to tour, and boom, new band. Honestly, if Mike and Tre listen to this album and don't feel a bit upset, that only confirms they are just along for the ride. Next GD record, they both need to shine. I don't get this obsession with pointing how Mike and Tré could be 'replaced'. They can't, Green Day is not a "one man band" no matter what you say, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Green Day is not breaking up. They're still great friends. But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade. Sure, maybe this album lacks the musicianship of Tre and Mike, but all that is meaningless if the songs aren't good. This solo album has more energy, catchiness, and memorable musicianship than anything they've made recently. When Mike was saying things like "going for an easy A" in Cuatro regarding some of the songs in, you have to wonder what their overall mentality is about the band. Yes, Billie has always been the workaholic, driving force of Green Day, but many great bands have multiple members who contribute to writing and creativity. Mike and Tre seem to go along with whatever Billie says and maybe add some parts for their instruments. Heck, Mike's bass had been essentially edited out of the mix until RevRad, and even then it wasn't balanced. Based on this solo record, Billie could easily continue Green Day without Mike and Tre. Just hire some of the Green Day cronies to tour, and boom, new band. Honestly, if Mike and Tre listen to this album and don't feel a bit upset, that only confirms they are just along for the ride. Next GD record, they both need to shine. I couldn't disagree more. I think every album they've made since American Idiot has been better than this. 21CB is miles better than this. RevRad was better. And the trilogy, despite its flaws has way better songs overall. Not to say that this is a BAD album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Hoe Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Green Day is not breaking up. They're still great friends. But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade. Sure, maybe this album lacks the musicianship of Tre and Mike, but all that is meaningless if the songs aren't good. This solo album has more energy, catchiness, and memorable musicianship than anything they've made recently. When Mike was saying things like "going for an easy A" in Cuatro regarding some of the songs in, you have to wonder what their overall mentality is about the band. Yes, Billie has always been the workaholic, driving force of Green Day, but many great bands have multiple members who contribute to writing and creativity. Mike and Tre seem to go along with whatever Billie says and maybe add some parts for their instruments. Heck, Mike's bass had been essentially edited out of the mix until RevRad, and even then it wasn't balanced. Based on this solo record, Billie could easily continue Green Day without Mike and Tre. Just hire some of the Green Day cronies to tour, and boom, new band. Honestly, if Mike and Tre listen to this album and don't feel a bit upset, that only confirms they are just along for the ride. Next GD record, they both need to shine. "But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade." Well, that's debatable. Love is for Losers doesn't sound better than RevRad by a longshot. It sounds good, but it's not better. You say Mike and Tré's musicianship is missing, which obviously sounds like it's not a very good thing. And correct me if I'm wrong, but with a handful of exceptions Billie is always responsible for songwriting and doesn't let Mike and Tré pitch in if he doesn't think they have something valuable to add to make it even better - seeing as he is the driving force. Everything that happens in Green Day happens with Billie's consent, so how is it Mike and Tré's fault when, in your subjective opinion, anything they have done in the last decade isn't up to par with Love is for Losers? Especially when we know he's such a perfectionist and wouldn't settle with something he secretly isn't happy with to not hurt anyone's feelings. And nobody wants Billie to continue Green Day by himself? The fuck, without Tré and Mike, there is no Green Day. Without Mike and Tré, he's not Green Day but the Longshot or any of his other projects he keeps himself busy with inbetween Green Day albums and tours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I couldn't disagree more. I think every album they've made since American Idiot has been better than this. 21CB is miles better than this. RevRad was better. And the trilogy, despite its flaws has way better songs overall. Not to say that this is a BAD album To me this is the best thing Billie has done since 21st (not counting Foreverly since it was strictly cover album) IMO the trilogy has only maybe 3 songs and I’m stretching the maybe 3 are on the same level as the The Longshot album 1 hour ago, Billie Hoe said: "But Mike and Tre have to be at least slightly weary that Billie's solo record is legitimately the best thing anyone in the group has made in close to a decade." Well, that's debatable. Love is for Losers doesn't sound better than RevRad by a longshot. It sounds good, but it's not better. You say Mike and Tré's musicianship is missing, which obviously sounds like it's not a very good thing. And correct me if I'm wrong, but with a handful of exceptions Billie is always responsible for songwriting and doesn't let Mike and Tré pitch in if he doesn't think they have something valuable to add to make it even better - seeing as he is the driving force. Everything that happens in Green Day happens with Billie's consent, so how is it Mike and Tré's fault when, in your subjective opinion, anything they have done in the last decade isn't up to par with Love is for Losers? And nobody wants Billie to continue Green Day by himself? The fuck, without Tré and Mike, there is no Green Day. Without Mike and Tré, he's not Green Day but the Longshot or any of his other projects he keeps himself busy with inbetween Green Day albums and tours.... Green Day existed for quite a few years before Tre so the “without Mike and Tre there’s no Green Day” is a complete and utter lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emenius Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, WhiteTim said: He’s misinformed it’s only charged once if they were apart of the same album the single is different than the album so you’ll be buying the same three tracks again Oops- I stand corrected. Thought that because it was only £7.99 that they’d deducted the price of the eps tracks already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, emenius said: Oops- I stand corrected. Thought that because it was only £7.99 that they’d deducted the price of the eps tracks already. No you’re correct (at least for the US release as the US iTunes no longer has the Ep/single even listed anymore) I was going by normal circumstances and well Longshot ain’t doing anything normal at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 We can all agree that Billie is the creative force behind the band. Green Day, however, is more than the sum of its parts. I shudder to think what some of their classic tracks would sound like with a lesser rhythm section. I wasn't overwhelmed by RevRad or the trilogy but the former, in my opinion, features some of Tré's best drumming. Mike parts are not quite as intricate as they were in the 90s, admittedly. The thing is that each member brings his own flavor to the songs; it's that musical Witches Brew that is responsible for Green Day's signature sound. Nobody else can replicate that but those three (or four, if you count Jason's input on the trilogy). Edit: I know they used to have a lesser rhythm section. John is not a strong drummer, and look how much better Tré makes those early songs sound live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I must be missing something because I think Longshot is just okay. So far I think the album is pretty fun, but it's nothing amazing and a lot of the songs don't really stick with me. That being said if they would bring their tour to Chicago, I would totally go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emenius Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Out of interest has anyone seen any acknowledgement/congratulations on the album from Mike/Tre on social media?....not that they need to do it publicly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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