Billie Joes Eyelids Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: If you were their manager you wouldn't consider your band trying to smash up the gigs sponsors vehicle "calm". The other day Billie yelled out "Kill Donald Trump" which the manager would have had to deal with and at the same show Billie encouraged people to run naked across the arena. It might seem funny to us but Pat probably got an earful. Billie will always be Billie. These are just the kinds of things he has always done and isn't going to stop doing. I think his manager is more than aware and adjusted to this. If they were major problems they would have made the news, and there wasn't even a blip. And I'm sure that the new manager is fully aware that Billie is impulsive and unpredictable. The live puppet video after the show was proof to me that he and the people around him were fully in control and feeling lighthearted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthehallwaynow Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Hermione said: Lol at the wild speculation going on here And NOBODY knows what the fuck they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: Billie will always be Billie. These are just the kinds of things he has always done and isn't going to stop doing. I think his manager is more than aware and adjusted to this. If they were major problems they would have made the news, and there wasn't even a blip. And I'm sure that the new manager is fully aware that Billie is impulsive and unpredictable. The live puppet video after the show was proof to me that he and the people around him were fully in control and feeling lighthearted. It's not always the case that if there were major problems they would have made the news when you consider that none of us knew that Pat had been trying to get Billie to go to rehab in the summer of 2012 when the guys were in the UK. No major problems made the news but evidently shit was hitting the fan behind the scenes. We only know bits and pieces of what went on then from what Billie told us afterwards. Otherwise we never would have known a thing. We also wouldn't have known that Pat was the one pushing him to go to rehab the entire time and the one who succeeded in getting him to go eventually. The point being we have absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe they parted mid tour for the hell of it but just as easily Pat could have genuine reasons for leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: It's not always the case that if there were major problems they would have made the news when you consider that none of us knew that Pat had been trying to get Billie to go to rehab in the summer of 2012 when the guys were in the UK. No major problems made the news but evidently shit was hitting the fan behind the scenes. We only know bits and pieces of what went on then from what Billie told us afterwards. Otherwise we never would have known a thing. We also wouldn't have known that Pat was the one pushing him to go to rehab the entire time and the one who succeeded in getting him to go eventually. The point being we have absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe they parted mid tour for the hell of it but just as easily Pat could have genuine reasons for leaving. Oh Lord never mind. If I knew we would get back to this I would have never commented. I am officially dropping the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, neverdone2000 said: Oh Lord never mind. If I knew we would get back to this I would have never commented. I am officially dropping the subject. Fair enough. It is however the best example of how "major problems" do not always make the news for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Pat has been great. Really sad to see him and the band split up. I sent him a note expressing that and he replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pacejunkie punk Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This really is sad and I don't know what it means for the band's future direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just because they're changing managers doesn't mean they are changing labels Also I think they're smart enough to know you never ever ever have your manager be your CEO that's a huge conflict of interest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, WhiteTim said: Just because they're changing managers doesn't mean they are changing labels Yeah. That doesn't really make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Shared a bit of my history with Pat on the story on GDA http://www.greendayauthority.com/news/5744/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It has to be something deep that they will let him go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola17 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Managers basically represent artists in the sense that they can give statements out and do a bunch of stuff on behalf of them. They make decisions, but can also be a part of other aspects of the industry, including promo, and in some states, creating deals as an agent would. Agents are the ones that set up calls, interviews-basically try to get their talent out their. Basically deals and contracts. Crush houses a label, but they are essentially a management firm. Green Day is only changing managers to be with Crush, but won't be joining the label and thus will remain on Warner (from what the article reads). Also, most labels have a marketing department that would take a large chunk of the promotional aspect of this (I assume - correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not yet worried , although the news is definitely hard to hear. Wishing the best for both the band and Pat moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercatmary Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It's possible it was mutual, maybe Pat is wanting to reduce his work or retire all together. Hopefully whatever happened was mutual and no bad blood involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 he joined around Insomniac era...... they stop playing songs from Insomniac..... Pat no longer manages them....... 🤔🤔🤔🤔 See this setlist is evil pure evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola17 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Also, forgot to add it, but what a lovely post Andres. Thanks for providing a bit of your history with Pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoodleBob Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 What I'm mostly concerned about is whether GDA will have the same relationship with this new guy. It was very cool (and unique) how Pat interacted with this fansite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, DoodleBob said: What I'm mostly concerned about is whether GDA will have the same relationship with this new guy. It was very cool (and unique) how Pat interacted with this fansite. I hope we can. We still have a good relationship with other people who work directly with the band, so I'm not terribly worried. But it would still be nice to have that person we can always email when looking for information. 28 minutes ago, GreenDayTheory said: It has to be something deep that they will let him go It's impossible to say. As someone said, it could be mutual. It could just be a shift in what they're looking for at this stage in their career. That doesn't mean anything negative, just a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Fuzz said: I hope we can. We still have a good relationship with other people who work directly with the band, so I'm not terribly worried. But it would still be nice to have that person we can always email when looking for information. It's impossible to say. As someone said, it could be mutual. It could just be a shift in what they're looking for at this stage in their career. That doesn't mean anything negative, just a change. I hope there is no bad blood between them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luketrebilliemike Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I hope the new manager also sees the huge promotional value of having a fan news site and forum. Pat may have just left for family or other personal reasons, 21 years is a long time and I'm sure he got paid a Fuckton for doing so, maybe he wants some me too I don't think we will see any changes to how green day is run for at least a few weeks tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Justin said: See this setlist is evil pure evil Oh I could do a lot with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21guns&novacaine Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I mean... While all the bands he has worked with are pretty good - they're not Green Day. They're nothing like Green Day. I'm just hoping a new manager doesn't change their image in any capacity. On that note, I hope he's a good fit for the band, and I wish Pat the best on what he has planned next, and a huge thank you to him for putting up with them for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Seeing the GDA article on my Facebook newsfeed starting with "Green Day split" first thing in the morning almost gave me a fucking heart attack! This is so sad, don't know what to think about this. If he only decided to retire it would be kind of weird to do it mid-tour. But who knows. Yesterday after Billie beat up the car I had to think about Billies speech at the Hall of Fame induction, when he addressed Pat and said "You're a very brave man. You're our manager." So yeah, that guy has been through a lot of trouble with this band. I hope both Pat and the boys are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdlyon Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Are people in here seriously calling Billie "unhinged" for speaking out against Trump, aka the most unhinged man on Earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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